http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/local/breaking/ct-university-chicago-sat-act-20180614-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248122)

NAMs get in without their low test scores contributing to the average SAT/ACT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248172)

harvard

yale

princeton

stanford

MIT

caltech

dartmouth

penn

duke

brown

williams

amherst

close calls: georgetown, UVA, berkeley

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248246)

stanford

harvard

yale

princeton

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248255)

but yeah even emory is better than Chicago. Hell - Tufts is probably

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248535)

it's still a lower tier ivy (below dartmouth certainly, probably brown as well) to anyone with a clue.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248305)

dartmouth is basically another amherst/williams that got tossed in with big research unis

not going to go pounding the table for columbia but it's at least a good research uni with scale

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248332)

this is about undergrad prestige

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248354)

and i really just like to hate on columbia because it's a shitty campus in MFH

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248403)

It's not where I'd want to be for undergrad, but it has a nice campus given its location

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248410)

https://nypost.com/2017/02/02/suicide-wave-grips-columbia/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248574)

(though i really did want to go to tuck once upon a time)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248407)

hey teacher, I didn't turn in my paper but since my 25th historical percentile is an a-, you can just give me a b

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36256739)

Last I recall, they were actually almost identically predictive, and GPA + SAT was clearly better than either alone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248308)

"Oh, wow, WUSTL has a 1600 25th percentile!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248339)

https://www.parchment.com/c/college/tools/college-cross-admit-comparison.php?compare=University+of+Chicago&with=Stanford+University

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248379)

1 Harvard University 9.13 0.59 0.93 1

2 Caltech 8.77 0.56 0.92 3

3 Yale University 8.52 0.59 0.92 2

4 MIT 8.16 0.51 0.89 5

5 Stanford University 8.11 0.52 0.90 4

6 Princeton University 8.02 0.73 0.90 6

7 Brown University 7.01 0.56 0.78 7

8 Columbia University 6.77 0.54 0.73 8

9 Amherst College 6.61 0.51 0.71 9

10 Dartmouth 6.57 0.52 0.72 10

11 Wellesley College 6.51 0.53 0.71 12

12 University of Pennsylvania 6.39 0.56 0.71 11

13 University of Notre Dame 6.13 0.51 0.70 16

14 Swarthmore College 6.07 0.55 0.69 13

15 Cornell University 5.87 0.53 0.67 17

16 Georgetown University 5.77 0.50 0.64 15

17 Rice University 5.75 0.50 0.64 19

18 Williams College 5.75 0.51 0.66 14

19 Duke University 5.72 0.52 0.65 18

20 University of Virginia 5.65 0.51 0.67 21

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248903)

22 Wesleyan University 5.48 0.55 0.67 24

23 Northwestern University 5.30 0.51 0.64 23

24 Pomona College 5.27 0.52 0.65 22

25 Georgia Institute of Technology 5.17 0.50 0.63 30

26 Middlebury College 5.17 0.50 0.64 27

27 U. of California–Berkeley 5.17 0.51 0.64 25

28 University of Chicago 5.11 0.51 0.63 29

29 Johns Hopkins University 5.08 0.54 0.63 26

30 U. of Southern California 4.92 0.52 0.60 32

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248933)

LOL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36248548)

why do they even speak like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36249007)

My response was no, we're not that kind of family. In fact, many families would not do that. If they raised the cost further for BS, many will balk and just say fuck it, they can go somewhere else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36256758)

Harvard is already sued and will probably lose, meaning they broke the law in discriminating against Asians whose ACT and SAT were way higher than admitted blacks and Hispanics. Now schools want to get rid of standardized testing so there’s no verifiable metric with a paper trail that will lead to lawsuits in the future.

“Why’d you admit Tyrone Smith but waitlist Chang Lee?” “Uhh, we review all applicants holistically!!” LOL

They argue it’s to level the playing field since richmos can get tutoring for their kids. I call flame. Richmos also have the luxury of getting their kids internships and other extra curricular, have someone write their essays or letters of recommendation, or have their tiger moms confront teachers about getting grades raised. Poormos don’t have access to any of these advantages.

Pure intellectual horsepower is mostly genetic, it’s also the best metric for gauging career or school success. Standardized testing was introduced as a way to give access to higher education to poor people who were born smart. Not anymore I guess.

OH WELL! Enjoy the ride of the shitlib express. Choo chooo!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36251242)

they're basically creating two separate admissions tracks. one for kids who deserve it and one for charity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36251327)

But I don't think that insulates the schools from litigation. How do they explain that Asians and whites, when viewed "holistically," persistently come up short in the lower track? Is it because Asians and whites are worse on whole?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36251405)

https://quillette.com/2018/05/30/silence-around-test-scores-serves-privileged/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36251427)

UChicago’s rankings gaming is egregious lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36251668)

No decent school left in the US? Apart from CalTech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36256854)

UShitcago has always been a festering TTT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002422&forum_id=2#36258736)