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There's a 520 yard PAR 4 at US Open
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:24 AM Author: Pearl yapping indian lodge Stupid. Predictably there's more people who got bogeys and doubles than pars. What's the point of calling a par 5 a par 4. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249620) |
Date: June 15th, 2018 1:26 AM Author: Big institution pistol How many strokes for the average golfer? 12? This is a ridiculous sport now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249625) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:29 AM Author: Pearl yapping indian lodge I think the average pro has a 285ish yard drive. And they aren't hitting them dead straight on average. So that's like a 240 yard fairway wood to be on green in regulation. Stupid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249632) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 AM Author: Big institution pistol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249658) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:45 PM Author: cream den death wish Hit the gym (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251394) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:53 PM Author: Pearl yapping indian lodge I'm in good shape and my long drives are about 300 but I also frequently hit 230 240ish drives. It's my form :( (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251445) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:29 AM Author: Pearl yapping indian lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250860) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:31 AM Author: Supple French Chef i understand them wanting the us open to be challenging with not many low scores, but yeah this is just artificially doing that. they should just have long rough and tough pin placement (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250868) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:40 AM Author: up-to-no-good adventurous filthpig jap i always thought there was some yardage limit for Par 4s and that once you went past it you had to make the hole a Par 5. Is that not true? (Or is it higher than 520 yards?) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250932) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:41 AM Author: Supple French Chef no limit. it's pretty dumb when they do stuff like this (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250940) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:01 PM Author: Trip Main People Hell no, it's not true. par just means pefect play assuming two putts per hole.
I think there was a US Open or some other tournament that had a 280 yard par 3 or something like that. That's what's really stupid. |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:51 AM Author: turquoise hunting ground dog poop Does par really matter? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250991) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:15 PM Author: Self-absorbed mauve heaven this. i talked to 3 pro golfers and one of the the things they agreed on what that they give zero fucks about what the par is. they care passionately about each stroke they take, regardless of what the listed par is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251161) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:38 PM Author: Pearl yapping indian lodge Maybe not to the golfers themselves but for fans it's nice to have some bearing on what the scores mean (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251337) |
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Date: June 17th, 2018 5:47 PM Author: Spectacular copper chapel shut up you stupid fucking retard (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36261753) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 8:06 AM Author: Trip Main People Hell (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36264113) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:58 AM Author: fragrant navy hospital (Guy who doesn’t let the big dog eat) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251046) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:01 PM Author: free-loading point multi-billionaire These fairways are firm and the tee shot is likely down hill. They carry 285 + roll they're easily over 300.
Holding the greens/missing fairways is the big issue at Shinnecock |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:01 PM Author: Gold Office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251513) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:25 PM Author: Beta boiling water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251669) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:05 PM Author: Soggy Piazza Associate *unveils plutonium infused $6500 titanium driver* why is the course tougher?! not fair! |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:05 PM Author: Trip Main People Hell Drivers haven't changed that much in the last 10 years or so. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251096) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:46 PM Author: Soggy Piazza Associate quite a few of these guys go 350+ off the tee. no player not named john daly was doing that pre-2000 |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:58 PM Author: Trip Main People Hell https://golfweek.com/2015/12/22/average-driving-distance-pga-tour-hasnt-changed-much-decade/
basically you have a huge increase from 2000-2003 due to the Pro-V1 and then smaller increases due to driver technology which then plateaued in 2005. |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:58 PM Author: Pearl yapping indian lodge More like a small handful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251495) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:17 PM Author: Soggy Piazza Associate http://www.usopen.com/player-stats.html that's their avgs. with a downhill slope their 2nd shot is within 200 yds, which isn't too much of an ask for a so called challenging event of the world's best |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:35 PM Author: Pearl yapping indian lodge Given that almost as many pros were double bogeying the hole as getting a par on it, I think it's safe to say the average pro did not have a sub 200 second shot to green (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251753) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 PM Author: Soggy Piazza Associate rd 1: 62 pars, 29 doubles. or "almost as many" doubles as pars.
and it looks like it's 536 yds, not 520 per op. so, yeah, 2nd shot within 200 is probably a stretch for most |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:00 PM Author: free-loading point multi-billionaire ProV1 type balls spin less as well, plus every player has trackman now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251512) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:13 PM Author: Light wonderful church becky no its 180.
nothing wrong with a long ass par 4 with unless theres no way to run it up to the green.
whats dumb is a par 5 where everyone's hitting 5 iron second shots. |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:01 PM Author: Gold Office this X one million (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251514) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:44 PM Author: Aquamarine low-t voyeur half-breed the rare hole designed specifically for players who grow it big, show it big, KNOW it's big! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251385) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:46 PM Author: Yellow 180 Pit Tattoo It has gotten us talking about the U.S. Open, which I suppose was probably the goal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251401) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:54 PM Author: Umber knife address Crazy how much racket tech has advanced in the last few years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251459) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:59 PM Author: Trip Main People Hell scramble your password (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251500) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:07 PM Author: Gold Office i think it's 180.
the US Open is supposed to be the toughest challenge of the PGA Tour.
this is no waste management open.
at least 100 pga pros average roughly 300 off the tee, and no doubt, as said above, this particular par 4 is downhill with firm fairways. they're not going to make it impossible to hit the green in 2 strokes, but they are going to punish you for poor shots. |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 PM Author: pale meetinghouse jewess This is usual for a us open (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251795) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:46 PM Author: Razzle claret space I have no problem with a couple par 4s being extra long. The entire field has to deal with it.
This is no different than an average player having to play a 420-440 yard par four. It's hard. People struggle because it requires two long and straight shots.
I like seeing pro's challenged and struggling sometimes. Makes it more relatable. |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:53 PM Author: fragrant navy hospital (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251913) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:58 PM Author: Gold Office CR. I want to see pros struggling like I do. That's what the majors should be about. The biggest challenges. No one wants to see them breeze to pars and birdies every hole, never having to deal with any trouble. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251947) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 2:05 PM Author: Supple French Chef Why not make it a par 3 then? I have no problem making it more challenging but the way they’re trying to do it by just making it longer is dumb (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36252000) |
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Date: June 15th, 2018 5:44 PM Author: Light wonderful church becky they want to test the longer clubs in the bag. before tech improvements there were a ton of par 4s doods would hit long irons or even woods into. driver-wedge all the time is boring (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36253327) |
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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:04 PM Author: Light wonderful church becky stenson just hit 3 iron off the tee and then a 6 iron into the green. obviously this should be a par 5! jfc (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257373) |
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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:18 PM Author: Soggy Piazza Associate lolwut. just do a 340 yd 3i? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257412) |
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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:21 PM Author: Light wonderful church becky its downhill off the tee and running pretty fast. and downwind which is the prevailing wind. this thread is retarded (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257423) |
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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:39 PM Author: Soggy Piazza Associate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257506) |