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There's a 520 yard PAR 4 at US Open

Stupid. Predictably there's more people who got bogeys and d...
sienna supple den stain
  06/15/18
How many strokes for the average golfer? 12? This is a ridic...
Stimulating lake theatre
  06/15/18
I think the average pro has a 285ish yard drive. And they ar...
sienna supple den stain
  06/15/18
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Stimulating lake theatre
  06/15/18
Hit the gym
khaki hot location fat ankles
  06/15/18
I'm in good shape and my long drives are about 300 but I als...
sienna supple den stain
  06/15/18
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sienna supple den stain
  06/15/18
i understand them wanting the us open to be challenging with...
Judgmental corn cake
  06/15/18
i always thought there was some yardage limit for Par 4s and...
irradiated claret rigpig theater
  06/15/18
no limit. it's pretty dumb when they do stuff like this
Judgmental corn cake
  06/15/18
no, it's not true. par just means pefect play assuming two ...
Umber Piazza Therapy
  06/15/18
Does par really matter?
diverse hell athletic conference
  06/15/18
this. i talked to 3 pro golfers and one of the the things th...
Black ratface
  06/15/18
Maybe not to the golfers themselves but for fans it's nice t...
sienna supple den stain
  06/15/18
shut up you stupid fucking retard
sadistic outnumbered national
  06/17/18
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Umber Piazza Therapy
  06/18/18
(Guy who doesn’t let the big dog eat)
turquoise pungent trailer park dragon
  06/15/18
These fairways are firm and the tee shot is likely down hill...
Slimy university quadroon
  06/15/18
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galvanic effete public bath
  06/15/18
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Big Out-of-control Spot Bbw
  06/15/18
*unveils plutonium infused $6500 titanium driver* why is th...
insane walnut pisswyrm crotch
  06/15/18
Drivers haven't changed that much in the last 10 years or so...
Umber Piazza Therapy
  06/15/18
quite a few of these guys go 350+ off the tee. no player n...
insane walnut pisswyrm crotch
  06/15/18
https://golfweek.com/2015/12/22/average-driving-distance-pga...
Umber Piazza Therapy
  06/15/18
More like a small handful
sienna supple den stain
  06/15/18
http://www.usopen.com/player-stats.html that's their avgs. ...
insane walnut pisswyrm crotch
  06/15/18
Given that almost as many pros were double bogeying the hole...
sienna supple den stain
  06/15/18
rd 1: 62 pars, 29 doubles. or "almost as many" d...
insane walnut pisswyrm crotch
  06/15/18
ProV1 type balls spin less as well, plus every player has tr...
Slimy university quadroon
  06/15/18
no its 180. nothing wrong with a long ass par 4 with unl...
Saffron fortuitous meteor house
  06/15/18
this X one million
galvanic effete public bath
  06/15/18
the rare hole designed specifically for players who grow it ...
Puce pit psychic
  06/15/18
It has gotten us talking about the U.S. Open, which I suppos...
contagious dog poop
  06/15/18
Crazy how much racket tech has advanced in the last few year...
Poppy Razzle Crackhouse
  06/15/18
scramble your password
Umber Piazza Therapy
  06/15/18
i think it's 180. the US Open is supposed to be the tough...
galvanic effete public bath
  06/15/18
This is usual for a us open
frum sanctuary sound barrier
  06/15/18
I have no problem with a couple par 4s being extra long. The...
bespoke thriller wagecucks karate
  06/15/18
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turquoise pungent trailer park dragon
  06/15/18
CR. I want to see pros struggling like I do. That's what the...
galvanic effete public bath
  06/15/18
Why not make it a par 3 then? I have no problem making it mo...
Judgmental corn cake
  06/15/18
they want to test the longer clubs in the bag. before tech i...
Saffron fortuitous meteor house
  06/15/18
stenson just hit 3 iron off the tee and then a 6 iron into t...
Saffron fortuitous meteor house
  06/16/18
lolwut. just do a 340 yd 3i?
insane walnut pisswyrm crotch
  06/16/18
its downhill off the tee and running pretty fast. and downwi...
Saffron fortuitous meteor house
  06/16/18
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insane walnut pisswyrm crotch
  06/16/18


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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:24 AM
Author: sienna supple den stain

Stupid. Predictably there's more people who got bogeys and doubles than pars. What's the point of calling a par 5 a par 4.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249620)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:26 AM
Author: Stimulating lake theatre

How many strokes for the average golfer? 12? This is a ridiculous sport now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249625)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:29 AM
Author: sienna supple den stain

I think the average pro has a 285ish yard drive. And they aren't hitting them dead straight on average. So that's like a 240 yard fairway wood to be on green in regulation. Stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249632)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 AM
Author: Stimulating lake theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36249658)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: khaki hot location fat ankles

Hit the gym

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251394)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: sienna supple den stain

I'm in good shape and my long drives are about 300 but I also frequently hit 230 240ish drives. It's my form :(

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251445)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: sienna supple den stain



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250860)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: Judgmental corn cake

i understand them wanting the us open to be challenging with not many low scores, but yeah this is just artificially doing that. they should just have long rough and tough pin placement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250868)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:40 AM
Author: irradiated claret rigpig theater

i always thought there was some yardage limit for Par 4s and that once you went past it you had to make the hole a Par 5. Is that not true? (Or is it higher than 520 yards?)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250932)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: Judgmental corn cake

no limit. it's pretty dumb when they do stuff like this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250940)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: Umber Piazza Therapy

no, it's not true. par just means pefect play assuming two putts per hole.

I think there was a US Open or some other tournament that had a 280 yard par 3 or something like that. That's what's really stupid.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251071)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:51 AM
Author: diverse hell athletic conference

Does par really matter?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36250991)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:15 PM
Author: Black ratface

this. i talked to 3 pro golfers and one of the the things they agreed on what that they give zero fucks about what the par is. they care passionately about each stroke they take, regardless of what the listed par is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251161)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:38 PM
Author: sienna supple den stain

Maybe not to the golfers themselves but for fans it's nice to have some bearing on what the scores mean

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251337)



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Date: June 17th, 2018 5:47 PM
Author: sadistic outnumbered national

shut up you stupid fucking retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36261753)



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Date: June 18th, 2018 8:06 AM
Author: Umber Piazza Therapy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36264113)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: turquoise pungent trailer park dragon

(Guy who doesn’t let the big dog eat)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251046)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: Slimy university quadroon

These fairways are firm and the tee shot is likely down hill. They carry 285 + roll they're easily over 300.

Holding the greens/missing fairways is the big issue at Shinnecock

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: galvanic effete public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251513)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:25 PM
Author: Big Out-of-control Spot Bbw



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251669)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: insane walnut pisswyrm crotch

*unveils plutonium infused $6500 titanium driver*

why is the course tougher?! not fair!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251092)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: Umber Piazza Therapy

Drivers haven't changed that much in the last 10 years or so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251096)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: insane walnut pisswyrm crotch

quite a few of these guys go 350+ off the tee.

no player not named john daly was doing that pre-2000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251402)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: Umber Piazza Therapy

https://golfweek.com/2015/12/22/average-driving-distance-pga-tour-hasnt-changed-much-decade/

basically you have a huge increase from 2000-2003 due to the Pro-V1 and then smaller increases due to driver technology which then plateaued in 2005.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251493)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: sienna supple den stain

More like a small handful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251495)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: insane walnut pisswyrm crotch

http://www.usopen.com/player-stats.html

that's their avgs. with a downhill slope their 2nd shot is within 200 yds, which isn't too much of an ask for a so called challenging event of the world's best

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251619)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:35 PM
Author: sienna supple den stain

Given that almost as many pros were double bogeying the hole as getting a par on it, I think it's safe to say the average pro did not have a sub 200 second shot to green

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251753)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: insane walnut pisswyrm crotch

rd 1: 62 pars, 29 doubles.

or "almost as many" doubles as pars.

and it looks like it's 536 yds, not 520 per op. so, yeah, 2nd shot within 200 is probably a stretch for most

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251799)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: Slimy university quadroon

ProV1 type balls spin less as well, plus every player has trackman now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251512)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: Saffron fortuitous meteor house

no its 180.

nothing wrong with a long ass par 4 with unless theres no way to run it up to the green.

whats dumb is a par 5 where everyone's hitting 5 iron second shots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251138)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: galvanic effete public bath

this X one million

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251514)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: Puce pit psychic

the rare hole designed specifically for players who grow it big, show it big, KNOW it's big!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251385)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: contagious dog poop

It has gotten us talking about the U.S. Open, which I suppose was probably the goal.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251401)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:54 PM
Author: Poppy Razzle Crackhouse

Crazy how much racket tech has advanced in the last few years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251459)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:59 PM
Author: Umber Piazza Therapy

scramble your password

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251500)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: galvanic effete public bath

i think it's 180.

the US Open is supposed to be the toughest challenge of the PGA Tour.

this is no waste management open.

at least 100 pga pros average roughly 300 off the tee, and no doubt, as said above, this particular par 4 is downhill with firm fairways. they're not going to make it impossible to hit the green in 2 strokes, but they are going to punish you for poor shots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251551)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: frum sanctuary sound barrier

This is usual for a us open

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251795)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:46 PM
Author: bespoke thriller wagecucks karate

I have no problem with a couple par 4s being extra long. The entire field has to deal with it.

This is no different than an average player having to play a 420-440 yard par four. It's hard. People struggle because it requires two long and straight shots.

I like seeing pro's challenged and struggling sometimes. Makes it more relatable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251848)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: turquoise pungent trailer park dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251913)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: galvanic effete public bath

CR. I want to see pros struggling like I do. That's what the majors should be about. The biggest challenges. No one wants to see them breeze to pars and birdies every hole, never having to deal with any trouble.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36251947)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: Judgmental corn cake

Why not make it a par 3 then? I have no problem making it more challenging but the way they’re trying to do it by just making it longer is dumb

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36252000)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 5:44 PM
Author: Saffron fortuitous meteor house

they want to test the longer clubs in the bag. before tech improvements there were a ton of par 4s doods would hit long irons or even woods into. driver-wedge all the time is boring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36253327)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:04 PM
Author: Saffron fortuitous meteor house

stenson just hit 3 iron off the tee and then a 6 iron into the green. obviously this should be a par 5! jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257373)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:18 PM
Author: insane walnut pisswyrm crotch

lolwut. just do a 340 yd 3i?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257412)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: Saffron fortuitous meteor house

its downhill off the tee and running pretty fast. and downwind which is the prevailing wind. this thread is retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257423)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: insane walnut pisswyrm crotch



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002577&forum_id=2#36257506)