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IG re Strzok: relentless biased comments, no proof of bias

wtf? how much motive of intent does it take for IG to conclu...
Silver roast beef
  06/15/18
BUT WHAT ABOUT HIS MOTIVE
Copper Abode Rigpig
  06/15/18
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fear-inspiring mediation
  06/15/18
It's the bureau of investigations not the bureau of proper c...
180 station
  06/15/18
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aphrodisiac light business firm
  06/15/18
At least this is out there and people are talking about it, ...
Stirring trailer park
  06/15/18
"although libs seem to believe in other situations that...
Silver roast beef
  06/15/18
Fortunately we don't need to convince many deranged libs. An...
Stirring trailer park
  06/15/18
Tcr. These guys find bias and motivation everywhere but not ...
curious striped hyena
  06/15/18
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boyish magical rigor address
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bronze coffee pot twinkling uncleanness
  06/15/18
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Fragrant hall pisswyrm
  06/16/18
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Startled free-loading national associate
  06/19/18
What specifically did Strzok do in terms of either investiga...
Copper Abode Rigpig
  06/15/18
https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/04/politics/peter-strzok-james-c...
Stirring trailer park
  06/15/18
funny thing: the former term was literally the criminal stan...
Silver roast beef
  06/15/18
Thinking, non-deranged people can see that, fortunately.
Stirring trailer park
  06/15/18
"and if the latter term doesn't mean (or entail) the sa...
Wine haunted graveyard area
  06/15/18
(guy who hasn't explained the distinction at all)
Stirring trailer park
  06/15/18
idk. Comey and Strzok live inside the world of legal standar...
Silver roast beef
  06/15/18
The IG doesn't fault the charging decision. You can disagree...
Copper Abode Rigpig
  06/15/18
How about if it was a judgment call and his judgment was con...
Stirring trailer park
  06/15/18
for anyone with half a brain, it's obvious that Comey conclu...
Silver roast beef
  06/15/18
No shit. At least she still lost despite their best efforts....
Stirring trailer park
  06/15/18
It wasn't ultimately Strozk's call, it was Comey's. Comey sa...
Copper Abode Rigpig
  06/15/18
CNN could be wrong about the distinction being of legal cons...
Stirring trailer park
  06/15/18
Then that is an absurdly dumb fucking reading of the law. D...
Wonderful School
  06/15/18
IG's mandate was to ascertain whether investigative decision...
Peach jew
  06/16/18
it doesn't matter. this is political gold for Trump.
hairraiser low-t rehab gunner
  06/15/18
All anybody will remember is "we'll stop him"
Seedy Talented Weed Whacker
  06/15/18
trump should be running ads nonstop showing his election nig...
Racy library
  06/15/18
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bearded henna goyim
  06/15/18
Okay poast this idea somewhere that someone who can make tha...
Stirring trailer park
  06/15/18
bump 4 charles
Racy library
  06/15/18
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Insecure aqua theater stage son of senegal
  06/15/18
I’m certain we will be seeing much more of that quote.
Seedy Talented Weed Whacker
  06/15/18
the election ads and campaigning next time are going to be 1...
Razzle stage
  06/16/18
...
Startled free-loading national associate
  06/19/18
Let’s just hope the deep state is as free with the benefit o...
charismatic death wish
  06/15/18
LMAO suuuuuuure
Seedy Talented Weed Whacker
  06/15/18
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Silver roast beef
  06/15/18
Lol at obstruction being Trumps concern
Salmon sex offender
  06/16/18
It's exactly like comeys public announcement where he roaste...
180 station
  06/15/18
so Trump can be biased as fuck but the agencies he controls ...
Drab well-lubricated place of business meetinghouse
  06/15/18
(brain-damaged PP's 97 IQ in overdrive)
boyish magical rigor address
  06/15/18
This is a promising angle for flame. I would hate to see you...
supple violet brethren police squad
  06/15/18
lol
Insecure aqua theater stage son of senegal
  06/15/18
Imagine you are a prosecutor, or even a civil shittigator, a...
Wonderful School
  06/15/18
...
180 station
  06/15/18
cr this was a ham-handed attempt at damage control. like pat...
Racy library
  06/15/18
roll the guillotines
Insecure aqua theater stage son of senegal
  06/15/18
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fear-inspiring mediation
  06/15/18
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Stirring trailer park
  06/15/18
Cr. You don’t need video surveillance to prove the point, th...
Seedy Talented Weed Whacker
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Lascivious translucent brunch idiot
  06/15/18
"Horowitz did a great disservice to this country by int...
Wine haunted graveyard area
  06/15/18
This wasn’t hearsay bullshit he said “sometime in his career...
Seedy Talented Weed Whacker
  06/16/18
He’s a moderate, dont pick on him
fear-inspiring mediation
  06/16/18
He’s goddamn ridiculous.
Seedy Talented Weed Whacker
  06/16/18
Horrowitz was not addressing a "typical" argument ...
Wonderful School
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Lascivious translucent brunch idiot
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fear-inspiring mediation
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Silver roast beef
  06/15/18
Lol at conTURDs
jet-lagged lilac philosopher-king university
  06/15/18
Horowitz: actually there clearly was bias but we carefully l...
Silver roast beef
  06/19/18
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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:48 AM
Author: Silver roast beef

wtf? how much motive of intent does it take for IG to conclude the obvious? short of Strzok sending a text "I declare that I am doing something improper because I hate Trump," the IG says no impropriety is absolutely proven. it is the IG equivalent of Wolf Blitzer's "we may never know why the jihadist quoting the Quran and screaming 'God is good' as he murdered non-Muslims did what he did."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36250973)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:51 AM
Author: Copper Abode Rigpig

BUT WHAT ABOUT HIS MOTIVE

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36250990)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:52 AM
Author: fear-inspiring mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36250999)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:52 AM
Author: 180 station

It's the bureau of investigations not the bureau of proper conclusions

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251000)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: aphrodisiac light business firm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251384)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:52 AM
Author: Stirring trailer park

At least this is out there and people are talking about it, and reading between the lines.

Its hard to prove that bias results in some action. But the bias is clear and the actions are clear, and the connection between them is not really provable without an admission (although libs seem to believe in other situations that they can easily tell that bias causes actions with minimal evidence, so....)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:54 AM
Author: Silver roast beef

"although libs seem to believe in other situations that they can easily tell that bias causes actions with minimal evidence, so...."

agreed completely. but it's also an issue for all of us. when you see direct proof of passionate bias against someone, you naturally conclude it affects behavior -- except for jihadists and anti-Trumpers, apparently.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251022)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:00 PM
Author: Stirring trailer park

Fortunately we don't need to convince many deranged libs. And we have a champion who has a pretty fucking strong track record of standing up to their narrative. At this point, many people who were dead set against him are behind him simply because libs are so demonstrably unhinged.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251059)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:56 AM
Author: curious striped hyena

Tcr. These guys find bias and motivation everywhere but not here. Just lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251031)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: boyish magical rigor address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251193)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:28 PM
Author: bronze coffee pot twinkling uncleanness



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251694)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:37 AM
Author: Fragrant hall pisswyrm



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36254939)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 1:21 PM
Author: Startled free-loading national associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36272258)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: Copper Abode Rigpig

What specifically did Strzok do in terms of either investigation that you contend was improper?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251041)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:04 PM
Author: Stirring trailer park

https://www.cnn.com/2017/12/04/politics/peter-strzok-james-comey/index.html

Electronic records show Peter Strzok, who led the investigation of Hillary Clinton's private email server as the No. 2 official in the counterintelligence division, changed Comey's earlier draft language describing Clinton's actions as "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless," the sources said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251089)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:09 PM
Author: Silver roast beef

funny thing: the former term was literally the criminal standard that Comey had decided was not met. and if the latter term doesn't mean (or entail) the same thing, no one has explained why.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251112)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:12 PM
Author: Stirring trailer park

Thinking, non-deranged people can see that, fortunately.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251137)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: Wine haunted graveyard area

"and if the latter term doesn't mean (or entail) the same thing, no one has explained why."

They're not practicing lawyers. Lay people (including my clients) do that shit all the time assuming that terms and phrases are synonyms when under a particular statute or cases it can mean something entirely different. You can go ahead and attack the decision not to refer it for criminal prosecution, but who cares about the drafting process for Comey's statement.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251146)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: Stirring trailer park

(guy who hasn't explained the distinction at all)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251154)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:16 PM
Author: Silver roast beef

idk. Comey and Strzok live inside the world of legal standards and it's part of what they've done every day for decades.

and Comey's big cash-out statement was the claim that no reasonable prosecutor would prosecute Hillary for the email debacle. how is that not a legal conclusion?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251168)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: Copper Abode Rigpig

The IG doesn't fault the charging decision. You can disagree with the exercise of prosecutorial discretion here but that's a far cry from improper investigation conduct.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251173)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: Stirring trailer park

How about if it was a judgment call and his judgment was controlled by demonstrated overwhelming bias to reach a certain conclusion?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251187)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: Silver roast beef

for anyone with half a brain, it's obvious that Comey concluded that Hillary was too big for the law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251248)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:28 PM
Author: Stirring trailer park

No shit. At least she still lost despite their best efforts.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251262)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:34 PM
Author: Copper Abode Rigpig

It wasn't ultimately Strozk's call, it was Comey's. Comey said he needed intentional or willful conduct to prosecute and had no evidence of that. It doesn't actually matter to his conclusion whether you call it careless or negligent because his read of the law, including past prosecutions, was that negligence isn't enough. And DOJ prosecutors weren't bound to follow Comey's recommendation.

Isn't this ultimately a legal disagreement about whether negligence can or should be indictable under this particular statute?

Couldn't Trump's DOJ indict Hillary anyway?

At some point this becomes insane deep state conspiracy mongering.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251306)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: Stirring trailer park

CNN could be wrong about the distinction being of legal consequence. Would you happen to have anything in support of your argument I could read?

It might be Comey's ultimate call, but we're talking about actions by Strzok that stink of coming from biased and not objective analysis.

Per the article above: The shift from "grossly negligent" to "extremely careless," which may appear pedestrian at first glance, reflected a decision by the FBI that could have had potentially significant legal implications, as the federal law governing the mishandling of classified material establishes criminal penalties for "gross negligence."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251537)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:39 PM
Author: Wonderful School

Then that is an absurdly dumb fucking reading of the law. DOJ *constantly* argues for extensions and/or application of the law to fit new fact patterns. True, no case had ever addressed the intentional hiding of a fucking server full of classified information in a bathroom closet.

In what universe would DOJ not prosecute a low level employee for doing this? They would take the case 100/100 times. The fact that every single element may not be a guaranteed slam dunk has never precluded them from aggressively going after people. She should have been prosecuted precisely because she was SOS. She obviously new better, and should be held to the strictest standard as a leader. Instead, a double standard was applied.

Trump's DOJ cannot prosecute Hillary because the OIG just white-washed the entire investigation. They aren't going to revisit it, nor should they at this point. It's over.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251786)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 9:05 AM
Author: Peach jew

IG's mandate was to ascertain whether investigative decisions were defensible, not necessarily whether they were appropriate.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36255506)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:54 AM
Author: hairraiser low-t rehab gunner

it doesn't matter. this is political gold for Trump.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251019)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: Seedy Talented Weed Whacker

All anybody will remember is "we'll stop him"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251043)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: Racy library

trump should be running ads nonstop showing his election night victory contrasted with the ominous biased FBI texts. everyone needs it beaten into their heads that the federal investigative agency was literally plotting to overturn the results of a free election in the united states.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251209)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:27 PM
Author: bearded henna goyim



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251254)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: Stirring trailer park

Okay poast this idea somewhere that someone who can make that happen will see it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251270)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: Racy library

bump 4 charles

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251295)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:42 PM
Author: Insecure aqua theater stage son of senegal



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251362)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:23 PM
Author: Seedy Talented Weed Whacker

I’m certain we will be seeing much more of that quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251651)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:37 PM
Author: Razzle stage

the election ads and campaigning next time are going to be 180^180.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36256167)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 1:24 PM
Author: Startled free-loading national associate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36272283)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: charismatic death wish

Let’s just hope the deep state is as free with the benefit of the doubt when they investigate trump for obstruction.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251048)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:11 PM
Author: Seedy Talented Weed Whacker

LMAO suuuuuuure

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251127)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: Silver roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251139)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:01 PM
Author: Salmon sex offender

Lol at obstruction being Trumps concern

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36256452)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: 180 station

It's exactly like comeys public announcement where he roasted Hillary for illegal activity for 15 minutes, in a speech anyone listening to would have seen it building toward indictment, and then at the end he concluded Hillary had no intent completely out of left field and so there was no crime

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251066)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: Drab well-lubricated place of business meetinghouse

so Trump can be biased as fuck but the agencies he controls can't be? is that your argument Trumptards?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251158)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: boyish magical rigor address

(brain-damaged PP's 97 IQ in overdrive)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251238)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:40 PM
Author: supple violet brethren police squad

This is a promising angle for flame. I would hate to see you ruin it of the gates. Do you want to edit this to make your flame a little more subtle?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251356)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:42 PM
Author: Insecure aqua theater stage son of senegal

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251367)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 12:50 PM
Author: Wonderful School

Imagine you are a prosecutor, or even a civil shittigator, and you have to prove an element of "bias." Then you come across the Strozk/Page texts, including the "we'll stop him" and "insurance policy" texts. On top of it, you see all of the FBI/DOJ working along side Strozk on the investigation are saying they fucking hate Trump, and his supporters are "retards."

I'd be parading those texts around the office celebrating how I just won the case. Outside of a literal admission, there will never be clearer or stronger evidence of bias.

Horowitz did a great disservice to this country by intentionally narrowing the inquiry to bias that could be tied to an individual investigative decision. That is a made up standard designed to white-wash. The issue is whether the people running behind the radar with great power are doing things fairly, professionally, and with some semblance of neutrality. Clearly not here.

Hell, even Mueller agreed. Three people have now been kicked off his team for this shit. How the fuck is DOJ able to reconcile that? They may think that this white-washing puts them back on the path towards repairing their credibility, but it does the opposite.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251429)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:07 PM
Author: 180 station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251553)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:09 PM
Author: Racy library

cr this was a ham-handed attempt at damage control. like paterno saying mistakes were made but we're turning the page and putting procedures in place. not nearly good enough. it's plain to everyone what was really going on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251571)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:15 PM
Author: Insecure aqua theater stage son of senegal

roll the guillotines

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251606)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: fear-inspiring mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251620)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:18 PM
Author: Stirring trailer park



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251626)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:25 PM
Author: Seedy Talented Weed Whacker

Cr. You don’t need video surveillance to prove the point, there’s ample evidence in front of us already.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251678)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 2:16 PM
Author: Lascivious translucent brunch idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36252075)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: Wine haunted graveyard area

"Horowitz did a great disservice to this country by intentionally narrowing the inquiry to bias that could be tied to an individual investigative decision. That is a made up standard designed to white-wash."

No. It's addressing a typical argument raised by defense attorneys to win over juries and attack a prosecutor or cop's motivations. Maybe a cop used racist language sometime in his career. Maybe he was a racist and even had it in for the defendant. But, if there is no evidence that the investigation was improper, or that the evidence showing the defendant to be guilty of the crime was manufactured, then intelligent, objective people should conclude that the personal feelings of the investigator do not have bearing on the merits of the case. Mark Furman may have been a piece of shit, but I don't have any doubt that OJ did it.

Horowitz wasn't afraid to point out the improper behavior of agents and the lack of adherence to protocol in certain situations. But to say that invalidates all of the decisions that went into investigations is ridiculous. Our criminal justice system wouldn't survive such a standard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36252237)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:46 AM
Author: Seedy Talented Weed Whacker

This wasn’t hearsay bullshit he said “sometime in his career,” he was talking about one of the two key subjects contemporaneous with investigating both subjects. Pull your head out of your ass.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36254963)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:59 AM
Author: fear-inspiring mediation

He’s a moderate, dont pick on him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36255004)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 9:07 AM
Author: Seedy Talented Weed Whacker

He’s goddamn ridiculous.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36255512)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:18 PM
Author: Wonderful School

Horrowitz was not addressing a "typical" argument made by defense attorneys about historical bias. Strozk et al were making these comments WHILE they were investigating both political parties. You see the difference? This isn't an issue of "dat cop is racist" because he said the n-word in 1979. They were talking about the actual targets of the investigations.

We have an FBI agent that is leading both investigations saying "we're going to stop Trump." By tying the bias issue to a *particular* "investigative decision," the IG created a standard that will never be met. Under this standard, Strozk would have to literally say something like "we're going to stop Trump, therefore I'm going to now subpoena the Trump organization to carry out this plan."

This is laughibly stupid. Compare what actually happened in the two investigations.

In one case, we have a person that was involved in potential criminal conduct (Hillary), because she built a fucking server in her house to store classified data. I.e., the evidence is real and was created as a result of Hillary's own doing. In the other case, the only evidence we have looks to be almost entirely concocted or manipulated by the government's "counter-intelligence" operation, and/or the DNC itself. So then we look at the sum total of Strozk and companies acts: at almost every opportunity they took the most narrow and lenient investigative path with Hillary, but did the opposite with Trump. And of course, these are all people working under an administration that is the same side as Hillary.

So yes, Horrowitz did a great disservice to the country. No one believes that these were fair and unbiased investigations. If the "standard" allows for a different outcome when it is so plainly obvious, then it is a dumb fucking standard.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36256118)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:27 PM
Author: Lascivious translucent brunch idiot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36256145)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: fear-inspiring mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36256428)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: Silver roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36253568)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 1:38 PM
Author: jet-lagged lilac philosopher-king university

Lol at conTURDs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36251773)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: Silver roast beef

Horowitz: actually there clearly was bias but we carefully limited what we were talking about.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVdXdtztxjk&feature=youtu.be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36270028)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:49 AM
Author: Silver roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002739&forum_id=2#36271361)