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PSA: Jones Day is ranked 15 by Vault and doesn't pay lockstep

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.
Dashing Pistol National
  06/15/18
“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”
vermilion trip stead idea he suggested
  06/15/18
As I understand it.
Lascivious pontificating cuckoldry cruise ship
  06/15/18
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Hyperventilating flatulent institution community account
  06/15/18
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Hyperventilating flatulent institution community account
  02/12/22
they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. th...
Multi-colored meetinghouse
  06/15/18
oh we got a legal expert here
frisky exciting deer antler
  10/06/21
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Dashing Pistol National
  02/12/22
they have no debt as I understand it
sable resort
  06/15/18
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Hyperventilating flatulent institution community account
  06/15/18
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Pearl thriller plaza
  06/15/18
260k is a huge salary
sable resort
  06/15/18
goes a long way in shaker heights
Provocative prole halford
  06/15/18
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pea-brained ruby fortuitous meteor roommate
  06/15/18
Cr. Thats city janitor money
Hyperventilating flatulent institution community account
  06/15/18
Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal ...
Excitant main people wrinkle
  06/15/18
How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 ...
umber piazza quadroon
  02/12/21
It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your cha...
snowy big-titted box office
  06/15/18
they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live ...
Multi-colored meetinghouse
  06/15/18
sounds 180
sable resort
  06/15/18
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pea-brained ruby fortuitous meteor roommate
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Pearl thriller plaza
  06/15/18
https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/myst...
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Hyperventilating flatulent institution community account
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Lascivious pontificating cuckoldry cruise ship
  06/15/18
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Pearl thriller plaza
  06/15/18
https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1
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snowy big-titted box office
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Bespoke Bistre Property Windowlicker
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Pearl thriller plaza
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Bespoke Bistre Property Windowlicker
  10/06/21
is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 intera...
Dashing Pistol National
  10/06/21
omg 260k where do they get off
Mind-boggling field stock car
  06/15/18
For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t ...
Dashing Pistol National
  06/15/18
p depressing news going into the weekend
Swollen cordovan liquid oxygen principal's office
  06/15/18
Eat my dick nigger lover
Dashing Pistol National
  06/15/18
your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire...
Swollen cordovan liquid oxygen principal's office
  06/15/18
Explain
Dashing Pistol National
  06/15/18
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Dashing Pistol National
  06/16/18
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Dashing Pistol National
  09/04/18
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Bespoke Bistre Property Windowlicker
  06/16/18
yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put...
stimulating house blood rage
  06/15/18
To be fair, *Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends
violent mental disorder
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Dashing Pistol National
  02/12/21
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Federal Odious Heaven Incel
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Pearl thriller plaza
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Dashing Pistol National
  10/14/21
I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.
navy marvelous church legal warrant
  02/12/21
holy shit out the firm
Cerise ladyboy
  02/12/21
or at least give us vault range. that is really low.
Dashing Pistol National
  02/12/21
Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.
bipolar lake gas station skinny woman
  02/12/21
it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression a...
Dashing Pistol National
  02/12/21
That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cr...
bipolar lake gas station skinny woman
  02/12/21
i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.
Dashing Pistol National
  02/15/21
They systematically overpay top performers though. If you'r...
Translucent arousing therapy
  02/12/21
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Federal Odious Heaven Incel
  02/12/21
No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an...
navy marvelous church legal warrant
  02/12/21
Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they ca...
Translucent arousing therapy
  02/12/21
Better partnership odds
citrine dragon
  02/12/21
That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner ...
Translucent arousing therapy
  02/12/21
Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except f...
citrine dragon
  02/12/21
(Stevie Brogan)
Cerise ladyboy
  02/12/21
lol no
Startling Sickened Church Building
  02/12/21
how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Clevel...
Carmine Depressive
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  06/29/21
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Dashing Pistol National
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boyish rigor coffee pot
  10/06/21
that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.
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  10/06/21
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Dashing Pistol National
  02/12/22


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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: Dashing Pistol National

Senior associates making $260k. This is a SHIT profession.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252934)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: vermilion trip stead idea he suggested

“I like working for a firm that has its finances in order!”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252952)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:33 PM
Author: Lascivious pontificating cuckoldry cruise ship

As I understand it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253562)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Hyperventilating flatulent institution community account



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:55 AM
Author: Hyperventilating flatulent institution community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43955228)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: Multi-colored meetinghouse

they're a rust belt firm filled with miserable strivers. the high ranking is from their NY and DC specialty practices, which didn't arrive until the 80s. they lost their entire DC office when it broke off to form crowell & moring

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252972)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:10 PM
Author: frisky exciting deer antler

oh we got a legal expert here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231415)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:41 AM
Author: Dashing Pistol National



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43955203)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:32 PM
Author: sable resort

they have no debt as I understand it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252979)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Hyperventilating flatulent institution community account



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Pearl thriller plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253623)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: sable resort

260k is a huge salary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252984)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Provocative prole halford

goes a long way in shaker heights

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252989)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: pea-brained ruby fortuitous meteor roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253024)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Hyperventilating flatulent institution community account

Cr. Thats city janitor money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253068)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Excitant main people wrinkle

Something tells me they have no problems hiring. The legal profession will always have a massive oversupply problem unless major changes are made.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252986)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:14 PM
Author: umber piazza quadroon

How did this shit analysis not get called out in 2018? V25 firms are all competing over the same band of graduates and to a lesser extent laterals. There's an oversupply of lawyers in the country but there isn't an oversupply of Class of 2017 Stanford Law graduates willing to do debt financing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935785)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: snowy big-titted box office

It's probably a decent firm if you want to increase your chances of making a career of it v. maximizing your earnings. That's always been my impression, although maybe incorrect.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36252995)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Multi-colored meetinghouse

they de-equitize all the time. so yea, if you want to live in the midwest making six figures as basically a career of counsel, it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253002)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: sable resort

sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253004)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: pea-brained ruby fortuitous meteor roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253030)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Pearl thriller plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253696)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: angry domesticated stag film

https://simpsonsscreenshots.files.wordpress.com/2011/07/mysterybox.png

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253012)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:49 PM
Author: Hyperventilating flatulent institution community account



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253073)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:38 PM
Author: Lascivious pontificating cuckoldry cruise ship



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253597)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:42 PM
Author: Pearl thriller plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253628)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Pearl thriller plaza

https://imgur.com/a/9I8pMf1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253692)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:59 PM
Author: snowy big-titted box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253708)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: Bespoke Bistre Property Windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254559)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Pearl thriller plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949790)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:12 PM
Author: Bespoke Bistre Property Windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231423)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: Dashing Pistol National

is this that coked up "written work, the way 9.3 interacts with 7.2" guy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231447)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 4:50 PM
Author: Mind-boggling field stock car

omg 260k where do they get off

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253074)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: Dashing Pistol National

For the record I’m at a much lower ranked firm that doesn’t pay lockstep and was making 260k when I made partner.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253521)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Swollen cordovan liquid oxygen principal's office

p depressing news going into the weekend

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253537)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: Dashing Pistol National

Eat my dick nigger lover

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253786)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Swollen cordovan liquid oxygen principal's office

your unraveling before our eyes has become the dumpster fire du jour

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254215)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: Dashing Pistol National

Explain

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254517)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 2:30 PM
Author: Dashing Pistol National



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36256523)



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Date: September 4th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: Dashing Pistol National



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36743851)



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Date: June 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: Bespoke Bistre Property Windowlicker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254823)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: stimulating house blood rage

yeah, but with "Jones Day" on your resume, you put in some time and then afterwards you basically write your own ticket

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36253827)



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Date: June 15th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: violent mental disorder

To be fair,

*Jones Days, Nights, and Weekends

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#36254339)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:22 PM
Author: Dashing Pistol National



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933386)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:21 PM
Author: Federal Odious Heaven Incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933826)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:06 PM
Author: Pearl thriller plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949789)



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Date: October 14th, 2021 1:53 PM
Author: Dashing Pistol National



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43271055)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:36 PM
Author: navy marvelous church legal warrant

I make less than that as a V50 Of Counsel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933507)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 2:37 PM
Author: Cerise ladyboy

holy shit

out the firm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933521)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:15 PM
Author: Dashing Pistol National

or at least give us vault range. that is really low.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933783)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:22 PM
Author: bipolar lake gas station skinny woman

Gotta be flame. First years make 200k minimum now.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933832)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Dashing Pistol National

it might not be flame. there is severe salary compression at firms that don't pay lockstep (like mine). I think when i made partner biglaw was at 180 or 190 for first years. i was making 260 when i was put up. my firm always matches the market salary for first years but does nothing for anyone year 2 and beyond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933852)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:27 PM
Author: bipolar lake gas station skinny woman

That’s a good point, I woulda thought most v50s pay cravath scale but it’s been a while since I’ve seen the list

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933882)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:02 PM
Author: Dashing Pistol National

i think most v50s do, but there are some outliers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949761)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:24 PM
Author: Translucent arousing therapy

They systematically overpay top performers though. If you're a 6th year doing 2400+ hours and unhappy with your pay and you're good, you could walk across the street to any other firm that does lockstep. But now you make the same as their worst sixth year.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933851)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 3:39 PM
Author: Federal Odious Heaven Incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41933950)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:10 PM
Author: navy marvelous church legal warrant

No they don't. No associate at Jones Day makes more than an associate of the same year at a lockstep firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935758)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:57 PM
Author: Translucent arousing therapy

Then explain why a high performer would stay knowing they can go to another firm tomorrow and get more money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935989)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:00 PM
Author: citrine dragon

Better partnership odds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935999)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:04 PM
Author: Translucent arousing therapy

That's a fair point, it seems like they have larger partner classes, but it's a longer track too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936016)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 11:10 PM
Author: citrine dragon

Not longer than most V20s, which are 10 years plus, except for places where no one makes partner (Cravath, S&C, etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41936043)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:15 PM
Author: Cerise ladyboy

(Stevie Brogan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935792)



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Date: February 12th, 2021 10:22 PM
Author: Startling Sickened Church Building

lol no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41935828)



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Date: February 15th, 2021 4:12 PM
Author: Carmine Depressive

how hard to lateral from NYC/Chicago v50 to Jones Day Cleveland? the Shaker Heights trolling has got me curious

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#41949811)



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Date: June 29th, 2021 8:18 AM
Author: Dashing Pistol National



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#42703414)



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:07 PM
Author: Dashing Pistol National



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:15 PM
Author: boyish rigor coffee pot



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Date: October 6th, 2021 2:17 PM
Author: cyan range marketing idea

that's why they're as high as they are. feature, not a bug.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43231452)



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Date: February 12th, 2022 8:43 AM
Author: Dashing Pistol National



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4002947&forum_id=2#43955207)