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What is the liberal solution to illegal immigrant "Child separation" issue?
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:13 PM Author: sienna brunch ceo You want the kids with their "parents" in a prison cell?
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:16 PM Author: obsidian twinkling uncleanness Guess again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265367) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:18 PM Author: arrogant base I'd like to know this as well. What was the policy prior to this new change? Is there a more humane way of dealing with this without just declining prosecution? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265380) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: arousing pale locale international law enforcement agency Apparently the liberal solution is to let them go and hope they show up to their court date (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265391) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: arrogant base Is there seriously nothing better than that? That's got to be a straw man, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265414) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:24 PM Author: deranged hyperventilating parlor nowag Lol nope. Catch and release. Please be sure not to miss your court date! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265424) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:28 PM Author: arousing pale locale international law enforcement agency Family detentions were banned by some Hawaii judge when Obama was president. Can't lock kids up for nothing so either they don't process the parents in detention for their crimes or they separate the kids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265455) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: sickened stage queen of the night All solutions lead to open borders. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265389) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Drab Ticket Booth Fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265392) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:21 PM Author: Useless cuckold liquid oxygen let the entire world move to America if they want to (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265402) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:21 PM Author: deranged hyperventilating parlor nowag Npr guys said illegal crossing is only a misdemeanor. He was a fed prosecutor and never pursued misdemeanors alone so the answer is open borders. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265404) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:24 PM Author: hilarious temple clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265422) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:25 PM Author: Garnet personal credit line I'm still not clear on what the problem is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265435) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:29 PM Author: razzle legal warrant location (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265462) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:27 PM Author: Magenta domesticated abode the only solutions they seek: (1) Dems win House and Senate this Fall; (2) Trump is defeated or impeached; (3) current US voters effectively replaced by foreigners. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265448) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:27 PM Author: hilarious temple clown (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265452) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:29 PM Author: Drab Ticket Booth Fanboi (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265464) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:36 PM Author: Hairraiser orchestra pit (guy who gets it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265509) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:57 PM Author: sienna brunch ceo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265661) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:05 PM Author: irate internal respiration (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267005) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:17 PM Author: carnelian aromatic jap (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267082) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 5:58 PM Author: violent home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267657) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 6:03 PM Author: lavender pontificating rigpig market (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267674) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:58 PM Author: Boyish public bath idea he suggested Open borders + universal healthcare and UBI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265670) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 6:54 PM Author: Sooty pea-brained antidepressant drug tattoo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267941) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 1:09 PM Author: Bright university "liberal" "solution" |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:01 PM Author: sienna brunch ceo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36266982) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:03 PM Author: rough-skinned aphrodisiac pit ¡Bienvenido a America! ¡Sin espera! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36266996) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:07 PM Author: Fragrant Jet-lagged Bawdyhouse Weed Whacker As a lib, the real solution is
1) Expand asylum intake facilities where people can legally ask for asylum 2) Establish a broad guest worker program 3) Increase legal immigration to about 1.5mn annually 4) Build a border wall/fence and immediately deport all illegal border crossers, with families intact |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:08 PM Author: Buff razzle-dazzle state digit ratio we don't want "guest workers" and extensive immigration that just perpetuates the problem of low wages (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267027) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:10 PM Author: Boyish public bath idea he suggested there's too many fucking people in this country already. we need to reduce legal immigration to less than 10k per year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267039) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:10 PM Author: obsidian twinkling uncleanness If you are serious about building a barrier and deporting illegals then you are not a lib. The lib solution is mass amnesty for everyone here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267042) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:17 PM Author: sickened stage queen of the night (guy who didn't actually read the poast) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267079) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:10 PM Author: arrogant base So, I'm interested in engaging on this topic, but am I correct that points 1-3 aren't really addressing the family separation issue? I mean, they may be great proposals (or not), but they don't really get to the heart of what to do with people who get caught violating the law when they are with children.
As for point 4, does that mean they don't get to seek asylum? |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: Fragrant Jet-lagged Bawdyhouse Weed Whacker The “family separation” issue is a problem because our wink wink immigration system encourages migrants and their families to travel to the US and cross the border illegally because people’s friends, uncles, cousins, etc did it successfully before. If you arrest people on the border, I kind of get why you would want to seperate kids and parents. The problem is Trump is doing it out of racist and xenophobic motives.
As a lib, I want to end the wink wink system that lets people cross illegally and stay here and replace it with a real system that increases legal immigration and guest worker programs. I want more immigrants in the country. I also understand that our border is a joke, mainly because libs and corporate Republicans have used a lax border as an immigration system |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:26 PM Author: Boyish public bath idea he suggested remember when libs used to care about environmental conservation and protecting green space from development (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267130) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:29 PM Author: irate internal respiration “The problem is Trump is doing it out of racist and xenophobic motives.”
We would have better debates if we avoided this kind of shitlibbery |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: arrogant base But at least his is honestly naming the thing that a lot of shitlibs either don't realize or won't admit to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267155) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:29 PM Author: arrogant base "If you arrest people on the border, I kind of get why you would want to seperate kids and parents."
I don't even get that part. I mean, obviously, if you are going to prosecute the adults, you can't just incarcerate the kids too for the hell of it, but can't they stay together (if they want) while the adults wait for prosecution?
"The problem is Trump is doing it out of racist and xenophobic motives."
See, this is bullshit. If some woke Democrat does the same thing it's A-OK? That's just fucking stupid. |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:38 PM Author: Fragrant Jet-lagged Bawdyhouse Weed Whacker Trump is clearly doing this to gain leverage in his attempt to have many fewer, but whiter immigrants. A “woke Democrat” who separated families at the border would presumably be doing or due to some law and order rationale, but would likely have a better overall immigration policy.
I’m personally not shedding too many tears about this particular child thing as long as the kids are being properly cared for, have access to lawyers and doctors, etc. |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:44 PM Author: arrogant base "Trump is clearly doing this to gain leverage in his attempt to have many fewer, but whiter immigrants."
He is clearly doing this in an effort to curb illegal immigration. You really think Trump does not have a "law and order" rationale here? That's his entire fucking schtick! This is just your bias making your decisions for you. |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: obsidian twinkling uncleanness Why do you want more immigrants in the country? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267161) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 6:16 PM Author: Chest-beating umber private investor principal's office seriously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267732) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 6:22 PM Author: violent home People want to be around others like them. I'm guessing he's non-white. I'd want the same, but given that, can't really blame whites for wanting the same (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267768) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: Drab Ticket Booth Fanboi Except that whites pay for everything. It’s objectively better for URMs to have more whites. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267783) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: Fragrant Jet-lagged Bawdyhouse Weed Whacker To answer your question directly, I would deport all new entire groups (kids, parents, etc) immediately if they are caught crossing the border. I would also deport them with instructions on how to apply legally (either through a guest worker program or a regular green card program) and tell them to wait their turn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267158) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: titillating light circlehead organic girlfriend why the fuck should we INCREASE legal immigration? the current political/social convulsions are obviously being intensified by a lack of national cohesion; 15 million immigrants per decade (from where?) would obviously make that a lot worse. that's just asinine, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267069) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:17 PM Author: obsidian twinkling uncleanness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267080) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:26 PM Author: Fragrant Jet-lagged Bawdyhouse Weed Whacker I frankly don’t care about the “convulsions” from olds and whoever else are bitching about immigration
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:28 PM Author: titillating light circlehead organic girlfriend oh, this is PP, isn't it? you want to destroy america, so your policies make sense. very well then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267146) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: arrogant base Or, say, lower skilled American workers. That's a modern "lib" for you, I guess. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267163) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:16 PM Author: sickened stage queen of the night In other words "open borders", got it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267076) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:31 PM Author: Poppy low-t masturbator hall LMAO if you think #4 is ever happening. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267169) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 5:09 PM Author: Startled Blathering Kitchen Lib here, and this is dumb.
Answer is:
1) Legit e-Verify 2) Legit e-Verify 3) Legit e-Verify 4) cut off chain migration at nuclear family.
The rate of illegal immigration and deportations is falling because of enforcement and enforcement only. We should do more of that, and we should fine employers who profiteer off illegals and sub market wages to pay for more of that.
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:26 PM Author: shimmering hairless menage telephone The solution is that a democrat needs to do the separating. Then it's okay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267132) |