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What is the liberal solution to illegal immigrant "Child separation" issue?
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:13 PM Author: Hideous infuriating property You want the kids with their "parents" in a prison cell?
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:16 PM Author: fuchsia giraffe Guess again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265367) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:18 PM Author: contagious crimson business firm I'd like to know this as well. What was the policy prior to this new change? Is there a more humane way of dealing with this without just declining prosecution? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265380) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Aromatic Idiotic Hominid Apparently the liberal solution is to let them go and hope they show up to their court date (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265391) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: contagious crimson business firm Is there seriously nothing better than that? That's got to be a straw man, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265414) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:24 PM Author: Galvanic purple dilemma Lol nope. Catch and release. Please be sure not to miss your court date! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265424) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:28 PM Author: Aromatic Idiotic Hominid Family detentions were banned by some Hawaii judge when Obama was president. Can't lock kids up for nothing so either they don't process the parents in detention for their crimes or they separate the kids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265455) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Autistic twisted set All solutions lead to open borders. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265389) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Stimulating idiot kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265392) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:21 PM Author: Sapphire theatre let the entire world move to America if they want to (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265402) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:21 PM Author: Galvanic purple dilemma Npr guys said illegal crossing is only a misdemeanor. He was a fed prosecutor and never pursued misdemeanors alone so the answer is open borders. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265404) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:24 PM Author: plum corn cake parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265422) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:25 PM Author: titillating place of business I'm still not clear on what the problem is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265435) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:29 PM Author: Buff fighting stag film karate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265462) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:27 PM Author: ocher persian skinny woman the only solutions they seek: (1) Dems win House and Senate this Fall; (2) Trump is defeated or impeached; (3) current US voters effectively replaced by foreigners. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265448) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:27 PM Author: plum corn cake parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265452) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:29 PM Author: Stimulating idiot kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265464) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:36 PM Author: elite razzle spot athletic conference (guy who gets it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265509) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:57 PM Author: Hideous infuriating property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265661) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:05 PM Author: excitant potus idea he suggested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267005) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:17 PM Author: stirring umber den hairy legs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267082) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 5:58 PM Author: Saffron locale twinkling uncleanness (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267657) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 6:03 PM Author: vivacious painfully honest dingle berry genital piercing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267674) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:58 PM Author: Transparent resort Open borders + universal healthcare and UBI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265670) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 6:54 PM Author: Concupiscible duck-like wrinkle toaster (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267941) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 1:09 PM Author: Insanely creepy sable office "liberal" "solution" |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:01 PM Author: Hideous infuriating property (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36266982) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:03 PM Author: 180 bipolar community account faggotry ¡Bienvenido a America! ¡Sin espera! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36266996) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:07 PM Author: sepia racy point As a lib, the real solution is
1) Expand asylum intake facilities where people can legally ask for asylum 2) Establish a broad guest worker program 3) Increase legal immigration to about 1.5mn annually 4) Build a border wall/fence and immediately deport all illegal border crossers, with families intact |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:08 PM Author: histrionic knife patrolman we don't want "guest workers" and extensive immigration that just perpetuates the problem of low wages (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267027) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:10 PM Author: Transparent resort there's too many fucking people in this country already. we need to reduce legal immigration to less than 10k per year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267039) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:10 PM Author: fuchsia giraffe If you are serious about building a barrier and deporting illegals then you are not a lib. The lib solution is mass amnesty for everyone here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267042) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:17 PM Author: Autistic twisted set (guy who didn't actually read the poast) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267079) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:10 PM Author: contagious crimson business firm So, I'm interested in engaging on this topic, but am I correct that points 1-3 aren't really addressing the family separation issue? I mean, they may be great proposals (or not), but they don't really get to the heart of what to do with people who get caught violating the law when they are with children.
As for point 4, does that mean they don't get to seek asylum? |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: sepia racy point The “family separation” issue is a problem because our wink wink immigration system encourages migrants and their families to travel to the US and cross the border illegally because people’s friends, uncles, cousins, etc did it successfully before. If you arrest people on the border, I kind of get why you would want to seperate kids and parents. The problem is Trump is doing it out of racist and xenophobic motives.
As a lib, I want to end the wink wink system that lets people cross illegally and stay here and replace it with a real system that increases legal immigration and guest worker programs. I want more immigrants in the country. I also understand that our border is a joke, mainly because libs and corporate Republicans have used a lax border as an immigration system |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:26 PM Author: Transparent resort remember when libs used to care about environmental conservation and protecting green space from development (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267130) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:29 PM Author: excitant potus idea he suggested “The problem is Trump is doing it out of racist and xenophobic motives.”
We would have better debates if we avoided this kind of shitlibbery |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: contagious crimson business firm But at least his is honestly naming the thing that a lot of shitlibs either don't realize or won't admit to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267155) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:29 PM Author: contagious crimson business firm "If you arrest people on the border, I kind of get why you would want to seperate kids and parents."
I don't even get that part. I mean, obviously, if you are going to prosecute the adults, you can't just incarcerate the kids too for the hell of it, but can't they stay together (if they want) while the adults wait for prosecution?
"The problem is Trump is doing it out of racist and xenophobic motives."
See, this is bullshit. If some woke Democrat does the same thing it's A-OK? That's just fucking stupid. |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:38 PM Author: sepia racy point Trump is clearly doing this to gain leverage in his attempt to have many fewer, but whiter immigrants. A “woke Democrat” who separated families at the border would presumably be doing or due to some law and order rationale, but would likely have a better overall immigration policy.
I’m personally not shedding too many tears about this particular child thing as long as the kids are being properly cared for, have access to lawyers and doctors, etc. |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:44 PM Author: contagious crimson business firm "Trump is clearly doing this to gain leverage in his attempt to have many fewer, but whiter immigrants."
He is clearly doing this in an effort to curb illegal immigration. You really think Trump does not have a "law and order" rationale here? That's his entire fucking schtick! This is just your bias making your decisions for you. |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: fuchsia giraffe Why do you want more immigrants in the country? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267161) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 6:16 PM Author: ruby mad cow disease corner seriously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267732) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 6:22 PM Author: Saffron locale twinkling uncleanness People want to be around others like them. I'm guessing he's non-white. I'd want the same, but given that, can't really blame whites for wanting the same (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267768) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: Stimulating idiot kitty cat Except that whites pay for everything. It’s objectively better for URMs to have more whites. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267783) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: sepia racy point To answer your question directly, I would deport all new entire groups (kids, parents, etc) immediately if they are caught crossing the border. I would also deport them with instructions on how to apply legally (either through a guest worker program or a regular green card program) and tell them to wait their turn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267158) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: Multi-colored Ratface Coffee Pot why the fuck should we INCREASE legal immigration? the current political/social convulsions are obviously being intensified by a lack of national cohesion; 15 million immigrants per decade (from where?) would obviously make that a lot worse. that's just asinine, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267069) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:17 PM Author: fuchsia giraffe (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267080) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:26 PM Author: sepia racy point I frankly don’t care about the “convulsions” from olds and whoever else are bitching about immigration
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:28 PM Author: Multi-colored Ratface Coffee Pot oh, this is PP, isn't it? you want to destroy america, so your policies make sense. very well then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267146) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: contagious crimson business firm Or, say, lower skilled American workers. That's a modern "lib" for you, I guess. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267163) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:16 PM Author: Autistic twisted set In other words "open borders", got it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267076) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:31 PM Author: indigo flirting native sound barrier LMAO if you think #4 is ever happening. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267169) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 5:09 PM Author: mustard garrison mexican Lib here, and this is dumb.
Answer is:
1) Legit e-Verify 2) Legit e-Verify 3) Legit e-Verify 4) cut off chain migration at nuclear family.
The rate of illegal immigration and deportations is falling because of enforcement and enforcement only. We should do more of that, and we should fine employers who profiteer off illegals and sub market wages to pay for more of that.
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:26 PM Author: Hairraiser bat-shit-crazy voyeur The solution is that a democrat needs to do the separating. Then it's okay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267132) |