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What is the liberal solution to illegal immigrant "Child separation" issue?
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:13 PM Author: Bistre provocative psychic You want the kids with their "parents" in a prison cell?
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:16 PM Author: carmine laser beams plaza Guess again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265367) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:18 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Lay I'd like to know this as well. What was the policy prior to this new change? Is there a more humane way of dealing with this without just declining prosecution? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265380) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Wine orchestra pit Apparently the liberal solution is to let them go and hope they show up to their court date (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265391) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:23 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Lay Is there seriously nothing better than that? That's got to be a straw man, right? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265414) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:24 PM Author: Amber wonderful sanctuary blood rage Lol nope. Catch and release. Please be sure not to miss your court date! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265424) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:28 PM Author: Wine orchestra pit Family detentions were banned by some Hawaii judge when Obama was president. Can't lock kids up for nothing so either they don't process the parents in detention for their crimes or they separate the kids. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265455) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Ungodly state mad cow disease All solutions lead to open borders. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265389) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: self-absorbed institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265392) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:21 PM Author: sapphire library let the entire world move to America if they want to (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265402) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:21 PM Author: Amber wonderful sanctuary blood rage Npr guys said illegal crossing is only a misdemeanor. He was a fed prosecutor and never pursued misdemeanors alone so the answer is open borders. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265404) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:24 PM Author: Pink Wild Regret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265422) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:25 PM Author: Exhilarant carnelian dingle berry I'm still not clear on what the problem is (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265435) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:29 PM Author: aquamarine submissive pit (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265462) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:27 PM Author: idiotic theatre the only solutions they seek: (1) Dems win House and Senate this Fall; (2) Trump is defeated or impeached; (3) current US voters effectively replaced by foreigners. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265448) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:27 PM Author: Pink Wild Regret (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265452) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:29 PM Author: self-absorbed institution (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265464) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:36 PM Author: confused azn (guy who gets it) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265509) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:57 PM Author: Bistre provocative psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265661) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:05 PM Author: Chest-beating Parlor (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267005) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:17 PM Author: histrionic outnumbered theater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267082) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 5:58 PM Author: Thriller hell coldplay fan (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267657) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 6:03 PM Author: arousing lake brethren (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267674) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 12:58 PM Author: obsidian insanely creepy forum affirmative action Open borders + universal healthcare and UBI (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36265670) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 6:54 PM Author: blathering newt immigrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267941) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 1:09 PM Author: Zombie-like candlestick maker dilemma "liberal" "solution" |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:01 PM Author: Bistre provocative psychic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36266982) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:03 PM Author: laughsome coffee pot public bath ¡Bienvenido a America! ¡Sin espera! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36266996) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:07 PM Author: Charismatic striped hyena persian As a lib, the real solution is
1) Expand asylum intake facilities where people can legally ask for asylum 2) Establish a broad guest worker program 3) Increase legal immigration to about 1.5mn annually 4) Build a border wall/fence and immediately deport all illegal border crossers, with families intact |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:08 PM Author: marvelous tank we don't want "guest workers" and extensive immigration that just perpetuates the problem of low wages (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267027) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:10 PM Author: obsidian insanely creepy forum affirmative action there's too many fucking people in this country already. we need to reduce legal immigration to less than 10k per year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267039) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:10 PM Author: carmine laser beams plaza If you are serious about building a barrier and deporting illegals then you are not a lib. The lib solution is mass amnesty for everyone here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267042) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:17 PM Author: Ungodly state mad cow disease (guy who didn't actually read the poast) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267079) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:10 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Lay So, I'm interested in engaging on this topic, but am I correct that points 1-3 aren't really addressing the family separation issue? I mean, they may be great proposals (or not), but they don't really get to the heart of what to do with people who get caught violating the law when they are with children.
As for point 4, does that mean they don't get to seek asylum? |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:24 PM Author: Charismatic striped hyena persian The “family separation” issue is a problem because our wink wink immigration system encourages migrants and their families to travel to the US and cross the border illegally because people’s friends, uncles, cousins, etc did it successfully before. If you arrest people on the border, I kind of get why you would want to seperate kids and parents. The problem is Trump is doing it out of racist and xenophobic motives.
As a lib, I want to end the wink wink system that lets people cross illegally and stay here and replace it with a real system that increases legal immigration and guest worker programs. I want more immigrants in the country. I also understand that our border is a joke, mainly because libs and corporate Republicans have used a lax border as an immigration system |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:26 PM Author: obsidian insanely creepy forum affirmative action remember when libs used to care about environmental conservation and protecting green space from development (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267130) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:29 PM Author: Chest-beating Parlor “The problem is Trump is doing it out of racist and xenophobic motives.”
We would have better debates if we avoided this kind of shitlibbery |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Lay But at least his is honestly naming the thing that a lot of shitlibs either don't realize or won't admit to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267155) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:29 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Lay "If you arrest people on the border, I kind of get why you would want to seperate kids and parents."
I don't even get that part. I mean, obviously, if you are going to prosecute the adults, you can't just incarcerate the kids too for the hell of it, but can't they stay together (if they want) while the adults wait for prosecution?
"The problem is Trump is doing it out of racist and xenophobic motives."
See, this is bullshit. If some woke Democrat does the same thing it's A-OK? That's just fucking stupid. |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:38 PM Author: Charismatic striped hyena persian Trump is clearly doing this to gain leverage in his attempt to have many fewer, but whiter immigrants. A “woke Democrat” who separated families at the border would presumably be doing or due to some law and order rationale, but would likely have a better overall immigration policy.
I’m personally not shedding too many tears about this particular child thing as long as the kids are being properly cared for, have access to lawyers and doctors, etc. |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:44 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Lay "Trump is clearly doing this to gain leverage in his attempt to have many fewer, but whiter immigrants."
He is clearly doing this in an effort to curb illegal immigration. You really think Trump does not have a "law and order" rationale here? That's his entire fucking schtick! This is just your bias making your decisions for you. |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: carmine laser beams plaza Why do you want more immigrants in the country? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267161) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 6:16 PM Author: Hairraiser gas station seriously (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267732) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 6:22 PM Author: Thriller hell coldplay fan People want to be around others like them. I'm guessing he's non-white. I'd want the same, but given that, can't really blame whites for wanting the same (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267768) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: self-absorbed institution Except that whites pay for everything. It’s objectively better for URMs to have more whites. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267783) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: Charismatic striped hyena persian To answer your question directly, I would deport all new entire groups (kids, parents, etc) immediately if they are caught crossing the border. I would also deport them with instructions on how to apply legally (either through a guest worker program or a regular green card program) and tell them to wait their turn (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267158) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:15 PM Author: Nudist canary property why the fuck should we INCREASE legal immigration? the current political/social convulsions are obviously being intensified by a lack of national cohesion; 15 million immigrants per decade (from where?) would obviously make that a lot worse. that's just asinine, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267069) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:17 PM Author: carmine laser beams plaza (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267080) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:26 PM Author: Charismatic striped hyena persian I frankly don’t care about the “convulsions” from olds and whoever else are bitching about immigration
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:28 PM Author: Nudist canary property oh, this is PP, isn't it? you want to destroy america, so your policies make sense. very well then. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267146) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: Razzle-dazzle Lay Or, say, lower skilled American workers. That's a modern "lib" for you, I guess. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267163) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:16 PM Author: Ungodly state mad cow disease In other words "open borders", got it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267076) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:31 PM Author: Sticky Mental Disorder Rehab LMAO if you think #4 is ever happening. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267169) |
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Date: June 18th, 2018 5:09 PM Author: violent native Lib here, and this is dumb.
Answer is:
1) Legit e-Verify 2) Legit e-Verify 3) Legit e-Verify 4) cut off chain migration at nuclear family.
The rate of illegal immigration and deportations is falling because of enforcement and enforcement only. We should do more of that, and we should fine employers who profiteer off illegals and sub market wages to pay for more of that.
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Date: June 18th, 2018 4:26 PM Author: Misanthropic home ratface The solution is that a democrat needs to do the separating. Then it's okay. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4004659&forum_id=2#36267132) |