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Female moralization parables in sitcoms involve Melvin secretly being Chad

You also see this in movies a LOT. There are many instanc...
Garnet Black Woman
  06/19/18
ITT: assburgers
glittery embarrassed to the bone menage party of the first part
  06/19/18
I had to poast this aspie thread all over the board to get i...
Garnet Black Woman
  06/19/18
where did all this melvin chad etc terminology come from? so...
glittery embarrassed to the bone menage party of the first part
  06/19/18
IDK - in this case it refers to certain stereotypical charac...
Garnet Black Woman
  06/19/18
they're personifications of these archetypes. it's a literar...
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we learned a lot from wizardchan just after elliot rogers
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Stephan Urkel.
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Great case - very interesting Melvin/Chad transformation
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  06/25/18
I vaguely remember an episode when Urkel became Chad but the...
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  06/26/18
Even in real life the actor Jaleel White turned into a super...
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  06/26/18
Hmmm
arousing useless brakes
  06/25/18
This is the key underlying theme in The Elephant Man too
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There was some random Ryan Reynolds B movie like 10 years ag...
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Now ideally, someone would have spliced the Scarface scene w...
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lol
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This movie will be on now since it was set on Christmas
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Just Friends. Solid Flick. Nice little outing for Chris Kl...
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Friends
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Shallow Hal was a little different. More of a fat acceptance...
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Very interesting when you invert the situation there
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With a equivalently fat/bad phenotyped actress as Jack Black...
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Superman
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Great example and sub genre - “Chad in the Guise of Me...
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more examples
Territorial Hall
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Very true and also depressing In fairness I have seen act...
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In my wife’s romance novels there is a similar progres...
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Date: June 19th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: Garnet Black Woman

You also see this in movies a LOT.

There are many instances in TV shows and Movies where women are shamed at how they treated Melvin but they are not shamed for their treating Melvin like a Melvin - they are shamed for not being able to realize that the man they thought was Melvin was secretly Chad.

For example, in Married With Children at the high school reunion of Al Bundy's bimbo daughter, Melvin (who she totally ignored in High School) turned out to be Chad and then shamed her dumb ass for being too petty to realize that he was secretly Chad when he asked her out as a youth.

This always tickled me to observe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36270005)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 12:11 AM
Author: glittery embarrassed to the bone menage party of the first part

ITT: assburgers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36270011)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 12:13 AM
Author: Garnet Black Woman

I had to poast this aspie thread all over the board to get it out of my head

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36270016)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 12:14 AM
Author: glittery embarrassed to the bone menage party of the first part

where did all this melvin chad etc terminology come from? sounds unnecessary considering we have alpha/beta

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36270023)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 12:16 AM
Author: Garnet Black Woman

IDK - in this case it refers to certain stereotypical characters that you see repeated in Sitcoms and Movies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36270030)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: charismatic legal warrant stage

they're personifications of these archetypes. it's a literary device

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36305611)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 3:26 PM
Author: Swashbuckling garrison

we learned a lot from wizardchan just after elliot rogers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#37337827)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 9:39 AM
Author: Garnet Black Woman



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Date: June 23rd, 2018 12:09 AM
Author: Garnet Black Woman



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Date: June 25th, 2018 3:20 AM
Author: Federal hunting ground

Stephan Urkel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36304647)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:22 AM
Author: Garnet Black Woman

Great case - very interesting Melvin/Chad transformation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36305575)



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Date: June 26th, 2018 11:22 AM
Author: maroon idiot church

I vaguely remember an episode when Urkel became Chad but then it was all a dream or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36311712)



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Date: June 26th, 2018 11:26 AM
Author: Garnet Black Woman

Even in real life the actor Jaleel White turned into a super ripped Chad.

Time and time again it is very interesting to see this trope appear constantly in literature, film, etc. It is often not really commented upon.

Basically this functions as a cautionary tale to women to be extremely careful in recognizing Chad

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36311733)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 5:50 AM
Author: arousing useless brakes

Hmmm

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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:28 AM
Author: jade love of her life

This is the key underlying theme in The Elephant Man too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36305602)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: Boyish Mint Prole Striped Hyena

this is the central theme of romy and michelle's high school reunion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36305612)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:37 AM
Author: bat-shit-crazy 180 gay wizard

Great movie, not what it looks like on the surface

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36305643)



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Date: June 26th, 2018 11:20 AM
Author: Garnet Black Woman



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Date: June 26th, 2018 11:32 AM
Author: Garnet Black Woman

There was some random Ryan Reynolds B movie like 10 years ago I saw half of on TV once where this was the entire plot.

Film begins where Ryan Reynolds is a total Melvin beta orbiter in HS but pines for Becky and is in the Friend Zone but Becky is still dating who she thought was Chad - then 10-20 years go by and Melvin (played by Ryan Reynolds) has left for college and the Big City & in the process has become a MegaChad and goes back to his hometown to find Becky living at home with her parents doing nothing with her life.

After a major scene where Becky realizes that Melvin was actually Chad the whole time and is forced to come to terms that she missed out on Chad - and was actually side tracked by Faux-Chad (sort of a Plato Allegory of the Cave here - except for women attempting to perceive what is a real Chad) - and that her life has gone nowhere while Melvin improved his life to become a multi-millionaire MegaChad record executive (in the movie).

The entire plot of the movie then becomes basically Ryan Reynolds wants to give it a shot with HS Becky again - this is of course after she has aged over the hill and probably fucked most of dudes in the entire small town (this is obviously not in the script) but - Alas! What is this?? A plot twist worthy of Shakespeare: Even though Ryan Reynolds has become MegaChad - he has a weak spot with this Becky because he was once a Melvin in her eyes - and the entire movie then becomes Ryan Reynolds overcoming this roadblock and locking the Becky of his HS years down. Even though she is now much older and is doing nothing with her life.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36311804)



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Date: June 26th, 2018 11:39 AM
Author: Garnet Black Woman

Now ideally, someone would have spliced the Scarface scene when they're in the restaurant and Pacino sees his junkie whore GF who he got all this money for in the first place and goes "Is this all there is Manny!?"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36311858)



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Date: October 8th, 2018 8:13 PM
Author: thriller hateful piazza

lol

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Date: December 25th, 2020 10:35 PM
Author: Garnet Black Woman



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Date: October 8th, 2018 8:43 PM
Author: Territorial Hall

shcolarship

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Date: October 8th, 2018 8:46 PM
Author: talking demanding pit

seen that movie and it is indeed hilarious, and not in the way it purposefully intends at all

the joke is that irl, a guy who became a mega-Chad like that would not give two fucks about that girl anymore, and if anything, possibly hatefuck her once and never speak to her again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36987375)



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Date: December 23rd, 2020 2:51 AM
Author: Iridescent titillating partner hissy fit



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Garnet Black Woman

This movie will be on now since it was set on Christmas

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#37337776)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 3:21 PM
Author: concupiscible base

Just Friends. Solid Flick. Nice little outing for Chris Klein too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#37337797)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 3:25 PM
Author: Irradiated Zombie-like Range



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Date: December 23rd, 2020 2:51 AM
Author: Iridescent titillating partner hissy fit

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Just_Friends

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Date: June 26th, 2018 11:35 AM
Author: Histrionic Toaster Resort



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Date: June 26th, 2018 11:40 AM
Author: Black Learning Disabled Main People Gaping

Shallow Hal was a little different. More of a fat acceptance movie.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36311866)



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Date: June 26th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: Garnet Black Woman

Very interesting when you invert the situation there

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36311875)



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Date: July 24th, 2019 12:57 PM
Author: shimmering narrow-minded genital piercing mother

With a equivalently fat/bad phenotyped actress as Jack Black? Isn't that show called Mike and Molly?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#38580778)



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Date: June 27th, 2018 12:28 AM
Author: Garnet Black Woman



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Date: October 8th, 2018 7:57 PM
Author: Garnet Black Woman



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Date: October 8th, 2018 8:15 PM
Author: Navy public bath mediation

Superman

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Date: December 2nd, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: Garnet Black Woman

Great example and sub genre - “Chad in the Guise of Melvin”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#37337780)



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Date: October 8th, 2018 8:44 PM
Author: Territorial Hall

more examples

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Date: October 8th, 2018 8:45 PM
Author: thriller hateful piazza

Very true and also depressing

In fairness I have seen actual real women in real life deeply love betas, even handicapped men

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#36987373)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: odious mahogany box office

In my wife’s romance novels there is a similar progression but in a different context.

1. Woman is born into nobility/money

2. Despite this, she is “not like the other girls” but is very free spirited and anachronistically modern ( they are all set in the early-mid 19th cent.)

3. She is supposed to marry a stable aristocrat but can’t help from falling in love with a roguish bad boy. This will be the end of her!

4. Never mind. turns out the roguish bad boy is secretly in line to inherit a dukedom or something. Heroine will suffer no consequences whatsoever and in fact will be rewarded for her decisions.

5. Epilogue- she is pregnant.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#37337840)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Blood Rage International Law Enforcement Agency

lol lets let them vote!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005294&forum_id=2#37337864)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 4:13 PM
Author: Irradiated Zombie-like Range



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 5:07 PM
Author: excitant yapping rehab legend



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Date: July 24th, 2019 12:28 PM
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Date: July 24th, 2019 12:37 PM
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Date: July 24th, 2019 12:38 PM
Author: Ruby Idea He Suggested



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Date: July 24th, 2019 1:47 PM
Author: Electric Irate Liquid Oxygen Masturbator

lol

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Date: July 24th, 2019 1:54 PM
Author: arousing useless brakes



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Date: December 23rd, 2020 1:52 AM
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Date: December 23rd, 2020 1:55 AM
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Date: June 6th, 2021 7:19 PM
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Date: December 2nd, 2018 5:09 PM
Author: talking demanding pit

ljl

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Date: July 24th, 2019 1:02 PM
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Date: July 24th, 2019 1:05 PM
Author: Brass Contagious Azn

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Date: July 24th, 2019 11:48 AM
Author: Garnet Black Woman



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Date: July 24th, 2019 12:07 PM
Author: Gay metal clown codepig

Thanks for this

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Date: July 24th, 2019 12:16 PM
Author: Flesh exciting business firm

180 observation

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Date: July 24th, 2019 12:24 PM
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Date: July 24th, 2019 12:19 PM
Author: Self-absorbed internal respiration senate

Absolutely true. It’s the age old prince masked as a frog fairy tale.

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Date: July 25th, 2019 11:16 AM
Author: Garnet Black Woman

Damn - I forgot about that - but yes that is a perfect example.

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Date: December 23rd, 2020 1:41 AM
Author: Crawly adventurous preventive strike state



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Date: June 6th, 2021 7:20 PM
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