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good, reasonably objective backgrounder on children/border thing?

i just want to know the facts. then i will make up my own mi...
Dun aromatic brunch
  06/19/18
Trump said pussy
Drab space tank
  06/19/18
http://www.xoxohth.com/post.php?parent_message_id=36270766&a...
Plum costumed abode
  06/19/18
18000000
fear-inspiring histrionic school
  06/19/18
https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/illegal-immigration-e...
Slimy charismatic mediation location
  06/19/18
That's pretty good
Lascivious cuckold factory reset button
  06/19/18
"1) Family units can go home quickly. The option that b...
Azure mind-boggling toilet seat
  06/19/18
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electric geriatric feces plaza
  06/19/18
Trump continues morally questionable Obama era policy concer...
Razzle-dazzle blathering french chef set
  06/19/18
Trump's tactic appears to be laying it at the feet of Congre...
rusted vibrant stage legend
  06/19/18
A wall spanning the continent is clearly the solution here. ...
maroon gaped idiot locus
  06/19/18
Walls work. HTFH https://imgur.com/c26nJuT
rusted vibrant stage legend
  06/19/18
...
Drab space tank
  06/19/18
Yea, bullshit. A wall will work, it can be built, and compa...
Razzle-dazzle blathering french chef set
  06/19/18
The assumption was always taxed remittances but he'll probab...
rusted vibrant stage legend
  06/19/18
I'm fine with those alternatives. I've yet to hear a reason...
Razzle-dazzle blathering french chef set
  06/19/18
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180 Apoplectic Mad-dog Skullcap
  06/19/18
I like that he his using it to his advantage to try to get s...
Razzle-dazzle blathering french chef set
  06/19/18
Good summary
Razzle Brindle Theatre International Law Enforcement Agency
  06/19/18
Trump is literally Hitler and wants to kill and gas all immi...
heady national security agency office
  06/19/18
I like this schtick
fear-inspiring histrionic school
  06/19/18
so the Trump administration DIDN'T start this practice?
Judgmental Stirring Address Boiling Water
  06/19/18
Obama did. It's been in place for like 9 years
Drab space tank
  06/19/18
That's sort of misleading.
Lascivious cuckold factory reset button
  06/19/18
Not as misleading as blaming Trump for this mess
Drab space tank
  06/19/18
what is the whole answer and don't spin it
Judgmental Stirring Address Boiling Water
  06/19/18
Trump wants to build the border wall but Republicans and Dem...
Odious hall
  06/19/18


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Date: June 19th, 2018 9:59 AM
Author: Dun aromatic brunch

i just want to know the facts. then i will make up my own mind. but i can't find the basic facts. link?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271076)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:04 AM
Author: Drab space tank

Trump said pussy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271125)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:17 AM
Author: Plum costumed abode

http://www.xoxohth.com/post.php?parent_message_id=36270766&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271204)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: fear-inspiring histrionic school

18000000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271224)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:22 AM
Author: Slimy charismatic mediation location

https://www.nationalreview.com/2018/05/illegal-immigration-enforcement-separating-kids-at-border/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271238)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:56 AM
Author: Lascivious cuckold factory reset button

That's pretty good

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271398)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: Azure mind-boggling toilet seat

"1) Family units can go home quickly. The option that both honors our laws and keeps family units together is a swift return home after prosecution. But immigrant advocates hate it because they want the migrants to stay in the United States. How you view this question will depend a lot on how you view the motivation of the migrants (and how seriously you take our laws and our border)."

titcr



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271464)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:16 AM
Author: electric geriatric feces plaza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271470)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle blathering french chef set

Trump continues morally questionable Obama era policy concerning the processing of illegal immigrant families that involve the separation of parents from their children for the purpose of legal processing. There apparently is some case law that forbids keeping the kids with the parents when the parents are detained. Trump continues this practice.

Democrats, who are concerned with Trump's recent successes, have been holding this card for a while (i.e. this practice openly has been going on for a while, but with some work, it can be used to make Trump look heartless). Libs & Democrats saw how effective the use of children can be with that one dead Syrian kid. Either way, after the North Korea meeting, and with Trump's popularity headed North fast, the lib powers that be decided to roll this thing out at this time. The media that is dedicated to helping Democrats (which is most of them) are doing their jobs by drumming up outrage. Women & low T men are behaving predictably.

It's a particularly tough issue for Trump because it unites Democrats and establishment Republicans. There is nothing that would make GOP guys like Lindsay Graham, Marco Rubio, and the whole Bush clan happier than letting every one of these kids in and putting them right in your school district (not theirs of course).

Trump has won these battles before, so it will be interesting to see how this goes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271259)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:31 AM
Author: rusted vibrant stage legend

Trump's tactic appears to be laying it at the feet of Congress. THEY are the ones with the power to change the laws. He's just enforcing THEIR law. But he will not sign any bill that does not fix the problem (i.e. a wall and border security, end chain migration, etc).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271285)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:32 AM
Author: maroon gaped idiot locus

A wall spanning the continent is clearly the solution here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271294)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:38 AM
Author: rusted vibrant stage legend

Walls work. HTFH

https://imgur.com/c26nJuT

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271312)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: Drab space tank



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271542)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:45 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle blathering french chef set

Yea, bullshit. A wall will work, it can be built, and compared to the cost of illegal immigration, it is not very expensive. Also, Mexico is going to pay for it, although I'm not yet sure how that is going to happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271336)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:46 AM
Author: rusted vibrant stage legend

The assumption was always taxed remittances but he'll probably just argue it comes out of leaving or renegotiating NAFTA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271343)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle blathering french chef set

I'm fine with those alternatives. I've yet to hear a reasonable argument as to why we shouldn't be taxing the shit out of remittances, these are the literal taking of money out of our communities and sending it to Mexico.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271365)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:07 AM
Author: 180 Apoplectic Mad-dog Skullcap

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(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271434)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:54 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle blathering french chef set

I like that he his using it to his advantage to try to get something done. Despite the manufactured outrage that has been carefully planned to hurt his presidency, he is actively working to make this a positive for him.

I can't imagine in my lifetime ever seeing a man better suited for the job of POTUS than Trump - just look at how Bush II took a shit when the media went after him for Katrina. Katrina is kid stuff compared to what the media throws at Trump, yet Trump wins and he wins.

Disclaimer: this kerfuffle isn't over it, it will be interesting to see if Trump can weather and gain advantage here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271387)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 1:15 PM
Author: Razzle Brindle Theatre International Law Enforcement Agency

Good summary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36272211)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:31 AM
Author: heady national security agency office

Trump is literally Hitler and wants to kill and gas all immigrants, especially kids, especially disabled kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271289)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:02 AM
Author: fear-inspiring histrionic school

I like this schtick

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271419)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 10:57 AM
Author: Judgmental Stirring Address Boiling Water

so the Trump administration DIDN'T start this practice?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271403)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:32 AM
Author: Drab space tank

Obama did. It's been in place for like 9 years

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271551)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:35 AM
Author: Lascivious cuckold factory reset button

That's sort of misleading.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271567)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: Drab space tank

Not as misleading as blaming Trump for this mess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271863)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: Judgmental Stirring Address Boiling Water

what is the whole answer and don't spin it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271885)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:02 AM
Author: Odious hall

Trump wants to build the border wall but Republicans and Democrats in congress don’t want to fund it so he told Stephen Miller to come up with a solution, so Miller told Trump they could ramp up a use of a seldom used law that requires detained illegals to be separated from their children knowing it would result in a public outcry which Trump could then blame on congress and say its on them to change the law, except he wont sign anything they draft unless it also includes money to build the wall. they might have miscalculated the political cost a bit but it looks like it might work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005425&forum_id=2#36271415)