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Trumpmos here, but we have to stop separating kids from their fams

Trump can do everything else the same, but all the people sh...
Burgundy electric furnace senate
  06/19/18
"same facility" in Mexico.
Racy pale state
  06/19/18
...
Magenta casino
  06/19/18
cr
bipolar underhanded home
  06/19/18
they already put them in the same facility together during t...
Bat-shit-crazy provocative athletic conference house
  06/19/18
cr they all need to go back
Embarrassed to the bone snowy background story area
  06/19/18
risten
overrated outnumbered lettuce
  06/19/18
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dashing saffron puppy den
  06/19/18
what about american moms separated from their children when ...
hateful razzle-dazzle public bath
  06/19/18
Whataboutism.
Burgundy electric furnace senate
  06/19/18
you have no answer. you're a disingenuous hack lib who shoul...
overrated outnumbered lettuce
  06/19/18
I said Trumpmo here.
Burgundy electric furnace senate
  06/19/18
risten, chirr rong time trumpmo here
diverse crackhouse
  06/19/18
"Whataboutism." It's a point of comparison that...
arousing vermilion brunch
  06/19/18
Dat cancel
nofapping hissy fit
  06/19/18
What about Trump saying it was so unfair that Manafort had t...
hairraiser haunting chapel jewess
  06/19/18
He's a citizen, he hasn't been convicted of anything, we kno...
Well-lubricated Magical Parlour Queen Of The Night
  06/19/18
Whataboutism. We need to detain people prior to trial when t...
Burgundy electric furnace senate
  06/19/18
child care obligations are routinely cited as a reason for l...
aromatic international law enforcement agency
  06/19/18
State DSS agencies take children from their mothers all the ...
Racy pale state
  06/19/18
That's not true.
aromatic international law enforcement agency
  06/19/18
I've defended over 550 dss cases in state court as a PD. Wh...
Racy pale state
  06/19/18
first, it is 100% different. the inquiry is whether there i...
aromatic international law enforcement agency
  06/19/18
It is 100% the same. Mother is incarcerated or otherwise su...
Racy pale state
  06/19/18
But by all means tell me more about how DSS works.
Racy pale state
  06/19/18
I'm happy to. You wrote 2 paragraphs with nothing in them. ...
aromatic international law enforcement agency
  06/19/18
Otherwise fit mother is detained in [county jail/ government...
Racy pale state
  06/19/18
...
beta boyish son of senegal patrolman
  06/19/18
"otherwise fit" meaning aside from being a junkie ...
aromatic international law enforcement agency
  06/19/18
You're fighting it, but you I know understand the point.
Racy pale state
  06/19/18
cr. if these are all modular/tent style facilities anyw...
Floppy potus
  06/19/18
Pretty sure libs will never accept keeping families together...
comical windowlicker temple
  06/19/18
cr op is flame Libs don’t want anything but them to be all...
Sinister motley resort
  06/19/18
https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/06/18/myth-vs-fact-dhs-zero-to...
copper judgmental coldplay fan theater stage
  06/19/18
"Criminal Prosecution – If an adult is referred for cri...
diverse crackhouse
  06/19/18
Fuck off concern-troll CUCK.
peach pistol school
  06/19/18
I agree mainly because using the kids as a pawn to discourag...
diverse crackhouse
  06/19/18
Of course it will discourage border crossings with kids. Th...
beta boyish son of senegal patrolman
  06/19/18
...
Slap-happy Set New Version
  06/19/18
Lol, let's watch.
diverse crackhouse
  06/19/18
wrong on all 4 counts
Multi-colored gunner
  06/19/18
...
Slap-happy Set New Version
  06/19/18
K, let's wait and see.
diverse crackhouse
  06/19/18
K, we'll keep doing it and see the results over time. If it ...
Cheese-eating useless brakes
  06/19/18
This policy needs to change. Republicans who care about fami...
diverse crackhouse
  06/19/18
family values at any cost? even the well being of your own c...
curious yarmulke travel guidebook
  06/19/18
lol at amerikkkan values at this point, wtf does that even m...
Drab school cafeteria ratface
  06/19/18
just stick little kids in a cage with criminal adults. nothi...
effete wagecucks dopamine
  06/19/18
Tell us more about being a Trumpmo, Jogurt.
Orange pervert range
  06/19/18
Whats your solution other than letting them go free in the U...
heady sweet tailpipe university
  06/19/18
was expecting the "s" ending the OP to be continue...
Cordovan Ungodly Therapy Multi-billionaire
  06/19/18
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appetizing disgusting quadroon chad
  06/19/18
We need to stop them from crossing the border in the first p...
Maniacal circlehead
  06/19/18
Agreed that we need a wall. But Trump needs to apologize fir...
Burgundy electric furnace senate
  06/19/18
trump has never back down or apologyzed since he began his c...
curious yarmulke travel guidebook
  06/19/18
Go back to Israel
lavender crotch stead
  06/19/18
...
bright corner
  06/19/18
This should be a bannable offense. Reported.
Burgundy electric furnace senate
  06/19/18
...
Cordovan Ungodly Therapy Multi-billionaire
  06/19/18
Hey RSF, what does this post smell like?
impressive business firm party of the first part
  06/19/18
I’m completely supportive of the current policy, but I think...
Swashbuckling Rigpig Gay Wizard
  06/19/18


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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:04 PM
Author: Burgundy electric furnace senate

Trump can do everything else the same, but all the people should be in the same facility and Trump should sincerely apologize.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272532)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Racy pale state

"same facility" in Mexico.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273059)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: Magenta casino



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273218)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 7:47 PM
Author: bipolar underhanded home

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36274374)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: Bat-shit-crazy provocative athletic conference house

they already put them in the same facility together during the Obama years and libs freaked out that it was inhumane and NOT OK

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273321)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:09 PM
Author: Embarrassed to the bone snowy background story area

cr they all need to go back

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272565)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:11 PM
Author: overrated outnumbered lettuce

risten

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272576)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: dashing saffron puppy den



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273067)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:17 PM
Author: hateful razzle-dazzle public bath

what about american moms separated from their children when they are arrested and jailed pending trial?

why is there even an outrage about this? when women commit crime they get arrested and are separated from family. happens everyday in american courts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272603)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:17 PM
Author: Burgundy electric furnace senate

Whataboutism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272607)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:19 PM
Author: overrated outnumbered lettuce

you have no answer. you're a disingenuous hack lib who should killself. hth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272610)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: Burgundy electric furnace senate

I said Trumpmo here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272665)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: diverse crackhouse

risten, chirr rong time trumpmo here

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272728)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 7:39 PM
Author: arousing vermilion brunch

"Whataboutism."

It's a point of comparison that helps us contextualize the matter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36274336)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: nofapping hissy fit

Dat cancel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272794)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 3:21 PM
Author: hairraiser haunting chapel jewess

What about Trump saying it was so unfair that Manafort had to stay in jail pending trial because he was tampering with witnesses in writing? How is it unfair to hold Manafort pending trial for CONSPIRACY AGAINST THE UNITED STATES but fair to hold these detainees for a misdemeanor?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272988)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: Well-lubricated Magical Parlour Queen Of The Night

He's a citizen, he hasn't been convicted of anything, we know who the fuck he is and where he lives, and he hasn't stolen anyone's identity.

What we DON'T know is who these witnesses supposedly are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273232)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 6:06 PM
Author: Burgundy electric furnace senate

Whataboutism. We need to detain people prior to trial when they are likely to flea justice. But Trump still owes the American people an apology.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273928)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: aromatic international law enforcement agency

child care obligations are routinely cited as a reason for leniency in sentencing. surely the logic applies to a crime that is punishable by a fine and no jail time, like jaywalking.

but yes you are correct, women accused of murder sometimes await trial in jail away from their minor children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273044)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: Racy pale state

State DSS agencies take children from their mothers all the time, sometimes for very little reason outside of the fact that they can. Sometimes they never give them back.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273073)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 3:56 PM
Author: aromatic international law enforcement agency

That's not true.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273204)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 3:57 PM
Author: Racy pale state

I've defended over 550 dss cases in state court as a PD. What do you want to know?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273211)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: aromatic international law enforcement agency

first, it is 100% different. the inquiry is whether there is abuse or neglect and if it is in the child's best interest to be placed outside of their home. It is not punitive or a political tool.

Second, if there is a temporary removal of a child from a home, it's only after an investigation. If it is going to be permanent or there will be a termination of parental rights, it's after a full trial.

lol @ this absurd analogy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273256)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Racy pale state

It is 100% the same. Mother is incarcerated or otherwise suspected of not being able to care for a minor child and DSS takes the child immediately, with this power only tempered by their obligation to have a probable cause hearing no later than 72 hours after removal. Judges friendly to DSS almost always find that there is probable cause. No different than Mom getting popped for illegal entry, although from the pictures it seems that these kids are in a far nicer, safer place than where American kids go to in state DSS custody.

As for getting the children back, state DSS agencies have a perverse financial incentive to (1) indicate a case for abuse (the number of indications is what their funding is based upon), (2) keep the child in a DSS run foster home (which DSS gets paid by the state by the child), and (3) DSS gets funding for their adoption departments based upon how many adoptions the do. Yes, there are safeguards, but these safeguards are only as good as the people who act in positions of authority, and it breaks down in cases. The people who comprise this system are almost all women, they are almost all very poor themselves, and some are prone to pursue petty grievance. It is a horrible, horrible system. further, it affects thousands of American families each year and disproportionately affects families of color and particularly Hispanic families.

I have seen kids get TPR'ed in cases that would boggle your mind.

But hey, let's all hold hands and emote over the plight of foreigners who are entering the country illegally.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273356)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 4:22 PM
Author: Racy pale state

But by all means tell me more about how DSS works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273388)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 4:30 PM
Author: aromatic international law enforcement agency

I'm happy to. You wrote 2 paragraphs with nothing in them. You didn't address the point that children are only removed for the purpose of protecting them from unfit parents. That's not the case here. It is a false equivalency whatever flaws you think the system has.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273440)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Racy pale state

Otherwise fit mother is detained in [county jail/ government immigration Nazi death camp]. Kid is taken care of by government until parents get out. Sometimes they cry.

Where is the disconnect here?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273474)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 4:36 PM
Author: beta boyish son of senegal patrolman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273481)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: aromatic international law enforcement agency

"otherwise fit" meaning aside from being a junkie and/or abusive?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273493)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 4:59 PM
Author: Racy pale state

You're fighting it, but you I know understand the point.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273603)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:20 PM
Author: Floppy potus

cr.

if these are all modular/tent style facilities anyways then (edit: "retrofit them to") just keep them together. doesn't really impair ability to deport imho.

unless this is all a way to get sessions out of the way; 8-D chess, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272616)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: comical windowlicker temple

Pretty sure libs will never accept keeping families together in detention facilities. The only thing good enough for them is release into the general public.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272679)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Sinister motley resort

cr op is flame

Libs don’t want anything but them to be allowed in

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272733)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:34 PM
Author: copper judgmental coldplay fan theater stage

https://www.dhs.gov/news/2018/06/18/myth-vs-fact-dhs-zero-tolerance-policy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272686)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: diverse crackhouse

"Criminal Prosecution – If an adult is referred for criminal prosecution, the adult will be transferred to U.S. Marshals Service custody and any children will be classified as an unaccompanied alien child and transferred to the Department of Health and Human Services custody."

They're prosecuting people trespassing as criminals, not in civil court, hence the separations.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272709)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: peach pistol school

Fuck off concern-troll CUCK.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272696)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: diverse crackhouse

I agree mainly because using the kids as a pawn to discourage border crossings and get the wall done will not work, because:

1) The idea of separating kids from parents runs counter to American values.

2) It will be horrible optics for Trump

3) It will actually hurt families/kids unnecessarily.

4) It won't actually discourage border crossings.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272724)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: beta boyish son of senegal patrolman

Of course it will discourage border crossings with kids. This was a known loophole that people were taking advantage of to get into the US, and now that loophole is closed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272730)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Slap-happy Set New Version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272735)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: diverse crackhouse

Lol, let's watch.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272743)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Multi-colored gunner

wrong on all 4 counts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272732)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:45 PM
Author: Slap-happy Set New Version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272736)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: diverse crackhouse

K, let's wait and see.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272747)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:58 PM
Author: Cheese-eating useless brakes

K, we'll keep doing it and see the results over time. If it doesn't have the desired effect we will add other measures and obviously the wall is one that should be commenced immediately

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272835)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: diverse crackhouse

This policy needs to change. Republicans who care about family values are offended by this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272962)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: curious yarmulke travel guidebook

family values at any cost? even the well being of your own children? which family comes first, sometimes you have to ask yourself that. heck not sometimes, every fucking day you dolt. your own comes first, btw. if you didnt know that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36274231)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:48 PM
Author: Drab school cafeteria ratface

lol at amerikkkan values at this point, wtf does that even mean when so many idiot racists can support a deranged moron like trump who shits on amerikkkan values every day

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272766)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:47 PM
Author: effete wagecucks dopamine

just stick little kids in a cage with criminal adults. nothing bad can/will happen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272757)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:51 PM
Author: Orange pervert range

Tell us more about being a Trumpmo, Jogurt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272782)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 2:54 PM
Author: heady sweet tailpipe university

Whats your solution other than letting them go free in the U.S.?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272810)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 3:20 PM
Author: Cordovan Ungodly Therapy Multi-billionaire

was expecting the "s" ending the OP to be continued as "-up brady, great to hear from you ..." in the thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36272980)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 8:29 PM
Author: appetizing disgusting quadroon chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36274692)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: Maniacal circlehead

We need to stop them from crossing the border in the first place. If we had a wall they would not even be here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273099)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: Burgundy electric furnace senate

Agreed that we need a wall. But Trump needs to apologize first.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36273954)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 7:17 PM
Author: curious yarmulke travel guidebook

trump has never back down or apologyzed since he began his campaign. worked out alright, id say.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36274238)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 7:12 PM
Author: lavender crotch stead

Go back to Israel

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36274221)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 7:18 PM
Author: bright corner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36274242)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: Burgundy electric furnace senate

This should be a bannable offense. Reported.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36274279)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 7:47 PM
Author: Cordovan Ungodly Therapy Multi-billionaire



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36274371)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 7:28 PM
Author: impressive business firm party of the first part

Hey RSF, what does this post smell like?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36274289)



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Date: June 19th, 2018 11:58 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Rigpig Gay Wizard

I’m completely supportive of the current policy, but I think it’s the wrong thing to do politically. The detrrent effect is likely insignificant, so as far as I can tell, the only effect it will have on immigration is that a higher number of illegals caught at the border will be detained until their removal proceeding. While this likely ensures that a higher percentage of illegals will be deported compared to previously, there are far better things to spend this much political capital on.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005597&forum_id=2#36275863)