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Lol at how libs blindly accept that Trump is hurting kids

Someone needs to add this one to the wiki page https://en.wi...
mustard gas station
  06/20/18
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Violet round eye
  06/20/18
i think it's a valid argument when children are directly bei...
Excitant house-broken crackhouse
  06/20/18
Remember the picture of the drowned 7 year old Syrian used a...
Clear beady-eyed tanning salon fanboi
  06/20/18
Right but the harm to children in this case is caused direct...
Excitant house-broken crackhouse
  06/20/18
It's the *tactic* of appeals to emtion that is fundamentally...
Clear beady-eyed tanning salon fanboi
  06/20/18
Both sides appeal to emotions. The left wing evokes sympathy...
Excitant house-broken crackhouse
  06/20/18
You claim your concern is for harm to the children. Then why...
flickering locale
  06/20/18
the Jewish bloodacre reasoning goes like this: the United ...
Mind-boggling kitty cat principal's office
  06/20/18
I agree that "US is the cause of the harm," but on...
Violet round eye
  06/20/18
"Right but the harm to children in this case is caused ...
Cowardly hall dingle berry
  06/20/18
careful friend that second part doesn't sound like a moderat...
Clear beady-eyed tanning salon fanboi
  06/20/18
when you have an attractive nuisance it irresponsible to ...
Nubile Flushed Goal In Life
  06/20/18
These children are also being directly harmed by their paren...
flickering locale
  06/20/18
I'm surprised that this argument wasn't used for parents who...
Violet round eye
  06/20/18
http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005127&mc=7&...
Electric Orchestra Pit
  06/20/18
it is not objectively harmful
Odious partner multi-billionaire
  06/20/18
A foundational principle of our family courts is that it is ...
Excitant house-broken crackhouse
  06/20/18
How do we know these are even their parents
Electric Orchestra Pit
  06/20/18
assuming we don't know, what do you think is the appropriate...
Excitant house-broken crackhouse
  06/20/18
I'm questioning it right now. If it's objectively harmful th...
Odious partner multi-billionaire
  06/20/18
So every father who loses full custody is unfit? Ok. Sometim...
flickering locale
  06/20/18
It's very subjective actually.
Amethyst Set
  06/20/18
You don't think it's up for debate? Is there a consensus of...
Violet round eye
  06/20/18
You sound like a lib. Trump isn't driving around the border...
mustard gas station
  06/20/18
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lemon marvelous parlor
  06/20/18
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Electric Orchestra Pit
  06/20/18
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hyperactive spot alpha
  06/20/18
180 link
Clear beady-eyed tanning salon fanboi
  06/20/18
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mustard gas station
  06/20/18
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Nubile Flushed Goal In Life
  06/20/18
Add it in a neutral writeup with links and see how quickly i...
mahogany lascivious deer antler
  06/20/18
cr someone do this
mustard gas station
  06/20/18
Is he not?
Metal Shitlib
  06/20/18


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Date: June 20th, 2018 1:15 AM
Author: mustard gas station

Someone needs to add this one to the wiki page https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Think_of_the_children

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36276200)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:16 AM
Author: Violet round eye



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277703)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:19 AM
Author: Excitant house-broken crackhouse

i think it's a valid argument when children are directly being harmed. i don't think it's up for debate that a child being forcibly removed from his/her parents care is objectively harmful to the child.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277719)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:22 AM
Author: Clear beady-eyed tanning salon fanboi

Remember the picture of the drowned 7 year old Syrian used as propaganda to open Europe to millions of violent 18-30 male Muslims?

Remember the picture of the starving polar bear to argue for massive global warming taxes?

It's an effective tactic but the people who use it are evil, lying frauds

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277737)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: Excitant house-broken crackhouse

Right but the harm to children in this case is caused directly by our government's policy of separating children from their parents.

The war in Syria wasn't caused by Europe. Whatever propaganda you are referring to was an appeal to morals and empathy to aid alleged victims of a foreign conflict. Here, the US is the cause of the harm by unnecessarily implementing a policy that is harmful to children. No one is saying let's just let them all in (maybe some shitlibs are saying this).

Polar bear analogy is inapposite.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277805)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:36 AM
Author: Clear beady-eyed tanning salon fanboi

It's the *tactic* of appeals to emtion that is fundamentally unsound. The application of the tactic is irrelevant.

I hope you saw the article yesterday where Cryin chuck schumer said he didn't want a solution because it benefitted the democrats. he bears responsibility for this .

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277851)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:59 AM
Author: Excitant house-broken crackhouse

Both sides appeal to emotions. The left wing evokes sympathy for perceived victims while the right plays on its base's xenophobia. You just disfavor the left wing's use of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277995)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 12:00 PM
Author: flickering locale

You claim your concern is for harm to the children. Then why did Schumer reject the proposal? He said it was just to make Trump look bad. Doesn't that make Schumer pretty evil?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36278010)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 1:12 PM
Author: Mind-boggling kitty cat principal's office

the Jewish bloodacre reasoning goes like this:

the United States denied our entry many decades ago because the country was too homogeneous and Christian, traits that favor resistance to encroachment by outsiders, and for those of us who were already here, we saw how in Germany a demagogue could unite the goyim against us, so the white majority must be punished by an endless stream of human detritus from the rest of the world in order to pay for their past sins and avoid a repeat of Nazi Germany in American soil.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36278441)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: Violet round eye

I agree that "US is the cause of the harm," but only to the extent that our laws create a powerful financial incentive for them to be here.

I'd like to see that fixed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36278022)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 12:04 PM
Author: Cowardly hall dingle berry

"Right but the harm to children in this case is caused directly by our government's policy of separating children from their parents. "

Also by our prior policy of giving a "get out of detention free" card to anyone travelling with children.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36278035)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 12:12 PM
Author: Clear beady-eyed tanning salon fanboi

careful friend that second part doesn't sound like a moderate statement

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36278089)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 1:09 PM
Author: Nubile Flushed Goal In Life

when you have an attractive nuisance

it irresponsible to do nothing about it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36278429)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:26 AM
Author: flickering locale

These children are also being directly harmed by their parents' terrible decision to take them on the journey to being with. Don't like it? Don't do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277774)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:26 AM
Author: Violet round eye

I'm surprised that this argument wasn't used for parents who are jailed (and kids put in foster care) for possession of drugs. There's plenty of them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277781)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:28 AM
Author: Electric Orchestra Pit

http://xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4005127&mc=7&forum_id=2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277785)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: Odious partner multi-billionaire

it is not objectively harmful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277789)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:33 AM
Author: Excitant house-broken crackhouse

A foundational principle of our family courts is that it is in a child's best interests to be in the care of their parents. To the extent a parent is deprived of the fundamental right, it is only because the parent is unfit and poses a risk of harm to the child and this is only after a full hearing and a high burden for the state.

It is without question objectively harmful to a child to be separated from his/her otherwise fit parent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277825)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:36 AM
Author: Electric Orchestra Pit

How do we know these are even their parents

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277852)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 12:00 PM
Author: Excitant house-broken crackhouse

assuming we don't know, what do you think is the appropriate presumption?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36278007)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:38 AM
Author: Odious partner multi-billionaire

I'm questioning it right now. If it's objectively harmful then we need to outlaw daycare and shit. "parents" engaged in criminal activity are objectively unfit regardless. And there's no proof these kids are not being trafficked by non-parents as get-out-of-jail free cards (a popular strategy for "migrants" according to the NYT)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277864)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: flickering locale

So every father who loses full custody is unfit? Ok. Sometimes kids go through shitty things, and sometimes those shitty things are caused by their parents. Laws are laws. Don't like it? Don't come here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277874)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:30 AM
Author: Amethyst Set

It's very subjective actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277802)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:32 AM
Author: Violet round eye

You don't think it's up for debate? Is there a consensus of moral opinion that, when parents are detained for illegally crossing the border, that their children should be left unattended roaming the desert?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277817)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:37 AM
Author: mustard gas station

You sound like a lib.

Trump isn't driving around the border rounding up children and caging them. Their parents got arrested for sneaking into a foreign country and this is part of the process. There's probably a better way to deal with the separation, but this isn't what libs are trying to argue here.

What libs are really doing is using a type of pathos that automatically "wins" the immigration debate by appealing to a universal belief that we shouldn't hurt children. Everyone already believes this, so instead of presenting some kind of immigration policy they're just reminding us of how we feel about this vague and tangential issue. No one wants to take the opposing side of anti-children's rights, but that's the corner they've labeled us in now if we want to have a border like a real country. If trump were to put these families in a nice hotel together and then promptly drive them right back to mexico, libs would be just as mad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277861)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: lemon marvelous parlor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277875)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:59 AM
Author: Electric Orchestra Pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277997)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 1:15 AM
Author: hyperactive spot alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36276201)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 1:25 AM
Author: Clear beady-eyed tanning salon fanboi

180 link

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36276224)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:01 AM
Author: mustard gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277616)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:05 AM
Author: Nubile Flushed Goal In Life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277644)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: mahogany lascivious deer antler

Add it in a neutral writeup with links and see how quickly it becomes an editing war

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36277796)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 12:09 PM
Author: mustard gas station

cr someone do this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36278073)



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Date: June 20th, 2018 1:13 PM
Author: Metal Shitlib

Is he not?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4006140&forum_id=2#36278445)