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CharlesXII, have you read Graham Greene or William Trevor?

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ocher gaping
  06/21/18
No, though I'll likely get around to Greene in the next coup...
Coiffed 180 Space Police Squad
  06/21/18
I’m honestly a little shocked to hear this. And a little jea...
galvanic frisky piazza
  06/21/18
There are plenty of Catholic-ish writers I haven't read or o...
Coiffed 180 Space Police Squad
  06/21/18
Have u read Greene, quotemo? I've read The End of the Affai...
Unholy Stage
  06/21/18
i have not, but he was highly recommended. what do you like ...
ocher gaping
  06/21/18
Just very elegant prose, books are lean without any filler. ...
Unholy Stage
  06/21/18
Jonathan Franzen said Graham Greene is overrated https://...
ocher gaping
  06/21/18
I can see the argument because they're so well constructed, ...
Unholy Stage
  06/21/18
what do you mean by being so well constructed? how could a n...
ocher gaping
  06/21/18
Franzen probably thinks more pointless meandering sprawl mak...
Unholy Stage
  06/21/18
Strange -- Franzen not a good judge of literary talent
bistre theater stage
  06/21/18
Franzen is the definition of overrated
massive pocket flask scourge upon the earth
  06/21/18
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bistre theater stage
  06/21/18
The heart of the matter is great too
massive pocket flask scourge upon the earth
  06/21/18
Greene is terrific
Deranged azure codepig
  06/21/18
what do you like about him. any comparisons to an american w...
ocher gaping
  06/21/18
Something about his writing feels so distinctly British to m...
Unholy Stage
  06/21/18
End of the Affair is great--technically difficult. For me, ...
bistre theater stage
  06/21/18
Greene is a must read for any good, well-read Catholic. Powe...
irate startled psychic jew
  06/21/18
Saw the Michael Caine version 5 or so years ago, just read t...
Unholy Stage
  06/21/18
Caine movie was pretty good but hard to measure up to the bo...
massive pocket flask scourge upon the earth
  06/22/18
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ocher gaping
  06/22/18
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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:41 PM
Author: ocher gaping



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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:43 PM
Author: Coiffed 180 Space Police Squad

No, though I'll likely get around to Greene in the next couple years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287443)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:54 PM
Author: galvanic frisky piazza

I’m honestly a little shocked to hear this. And a little jealous that you get to read Greene for the first time, you have some great reading ahead of you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287876)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 11:54 PM
Author: Coiffed 180 Space Police Squad

There are plenty of Catholic-ish writers I haven't read or only read recently. There are dozens of great authors, thousands of great books, and only so much time in one's life, sadly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36288422)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:44 PM
Author: Unholy Stage

Have u read Greene, quotemo? I've read The End of the Affair, Our Man in Havana, and The Quiet American. Big fan of his writing. Our Man in Havana was probably my favorite from a pure entertainment perspective- very funny take on the spy novel.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287445)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:49 PM
Author: ocher gaping

i have not, but he was highly recommended. what do you like about his style

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287468)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 8:57 PM
Author: Unholy Stage

Just very elegant prose, books are lean without any filler. Seems to capture the feel of foreign places well.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287504)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: ocher gaping

Jonathan Franzen said Graham Greene is overrated

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K5FvI33QH1M

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287562)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:25 PM
Author: Unholy Stage

I can see the argument because they're so well constructed, but if you don't really buy into his catholicism theme and how it drives the characters, something like The End of the Affair seems like a sort of prim contrived "serious novel". I haven't read enough, but I think I'm more drawn to his more "entertainment" novels, anyway, since spy novels are one of the few genre novels I like.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287686)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: ocher gaping

what do you mean by being so well constructed? how could a novel be good without being well constructed?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287733)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: Unholy Stage

Franzen probably thinks more pointless meandering sprawl makes a novel more true or something.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287745)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:30 PM
Author: bistre theater stage

Strange -- Franzen not a good judge of literary talent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287717)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:35 PM
Author: massive pocket flask scourge upon the earth

Franzen is the definition of overrated

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287747)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:38 PM
Author: bistre theater stage



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:28 PM
Author: massive pocket flask scourge upon the earth

The heart of the matter is great too

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287706)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: Deranged azure codepig

Greene is terrific

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287572)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:20 PM
Author: ocher gaping

what do you like about him. any comparisons to an american writer?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287657)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:48 PM
Author: Unholy Stage

Something about his writing feels so distinctly British to me. More like Ishiguro, McEwan, Julian Barnes, than any recent American novelists I can think of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287845)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 9:31 PM
Author: bistre theater stage

End of the Affair is great--technically difficult. For me, the best is The Power and the Glory. Also, the novella and screenplay for the Third Man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36287719)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 11:00 PM
Author: irate startled psychic jew

Greene is a must read for any good, well-read Catholic. Power and the Glory and The Quiet American are great. Anyone see any of the two Quiet American movies? Worth watching?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36288178)



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Date: June 21st, 2018 11:15 PM
Author: Unholy Stage

Saw the Michael Caine version 5 or so years ago, just read the book recently. It was pretty good, maybe a near-miss. I'll probably watch it again after having just read the book.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36288232)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 11:14 PM
Author: massive pocket flask scourge upon the earth

Caine movie was pretty good but hard to measure up to the book which was a masterpiece

End of the affair was one of the GOAT for me but partly because I was in a relationship like the one in the book and it was mind blowing that he could write it all so concisely

Beyond just the stories his word craft is brilliant

But Jonathan franzen thinks he’s over rated so...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4007630&forum_id=2#36294530)



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Date: June 22nd, 2018 9:00 PM
Author: ocher gaping



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Date: June 23rd, 2018 8:45 PM
Author: ocher gaping



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Date: June 24th, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: ocher gaping



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