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I choose this over a cube.
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What’s the difference
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A cube gives you at least SOME privacy and sound isolation (...
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This is worse for sure.
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When they did this in our office they also added like 8 mini...
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Yeah, we have "focus rooms" that are individual of...
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Idk, people at my office hate it. People definitely used to...
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Does everyone have the option to work from home? Why do peop...
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Some of us have official permission (like me). Others s...
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What exactly do you do that requires an in person meeting? W...
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Requires? few things "require" an in-person meeti...
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You can just as easily review documents or reports or whatev...
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We actually discuss strategy and approaches together so ever...
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Ok and why can’t this nonsense get sorted out over the phone...
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Because a) some people prefer to do it in person, and b) bec...
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How is $300k awesome money?
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It’s not really a fad. Open plan offices are common in shith...
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enough already do that basically every meeting is a conferen...
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Cr, no doubt that wfh is worse from a managerial and product...
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he's not wrong though. having a 50/50 home/office split does...
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>> spending millions on switching to open offices just...
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i think this is right.
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Yea but they went full retard and refused to assign space ev...
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With us, they crammed more people in the same space, so even...
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re #3: it's especially infuriating because for years we wer...
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Date: June 24th, 2018 7:57 PM
Author: sable godawful foreskin

First, not every open office is the same. Some are doing the hotelling model (nothing allowed on the desk, nowhere to put a picture).

Our open office model gives us assigned 6'x3' desks in 6x2 blocks with 12" separators on the sides and a 24" tackboard divider on the back of the desk. My desk is a cluttered mess of loose leaf tea, business cards, paper notes, my briefcase, mugs and cups, etc. I hang my lunchbox from the arm of my chair because there's no other convenient place for it. I've been meaning to bring a picture of my family in.

We also have lockers (maybe 2'x2'x2'), but I use mine for storing extra cutlery for when I host department breakfasts every couple weeks. Some stick their purses in there or their briefcases. I find it rather inconvenient to store anything that gets used in there. There's a coatrack at the end of the row of desks for rainy days like today.

The ambiance is nice enough. I sit 15 feet from a window, so there's plenty of natural light. The ceiling is high and the walls are bright, so it doesn't feel claustrophobic despite there being 5 people nearly within arm's reach. They pump in white noise so that conversations don't carry as much and so that the clicks and taps of keyboards don't drive everybody nuts. Most people put headphones on all day.

Most of us take non-confidential calls at our desks, and it's really not a bother. There are some folks who are a bit loud, but the ambient noise dampens that issue. Sometimes, if there are groups of people having conversations, the ambient noise is too loud to hear one's phone call properly, but some of that may be that my hearing isn't the best.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303076)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 7:59 PM
Author: saffron crawly kitty

the industrial revolution and its consequences has been a disaster for the human race.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303089)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 9:33 PM
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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:29 PM
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Date: June 24th, 2018 11:21 PM
Author: copper house boistinker



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:34 AM
Author: exciting insanely creepy personal credit line area



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:30 AM
Author: Gold Set



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Date: June 24th, 2018 8:03 PM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

Yep, my office went from nice, large offices for lawyers to unassigned desks where you can't leave anything and lockers. It is awful and I'm grateful that I never have to actually work like that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303116)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 8:19 PM
Author: Yapping jade clown half-breed

lol, "There's nowhere to put my cutlery for the breakfasts that I host!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303185)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 8:21 PM
Author: ruby vivacious shitlib

Ljl the bay area is gonna get the nuking it deserves

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303190)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 8:45 PM
Author: sable godawful foreskin



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Date: June 24th, 2018 8:52 PM
Author: coral forum

I choose this over a cube.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303382)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: sable godawful foreskin

What’s the difference

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303496)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

A cube gives you at least SOME privacy and sound isolation (as well as smell isolation if people are eating weird food). They're also usually way bigger.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303936)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 10:59 AM
Author: Flesh toaster



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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:45 PM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

This is worse for sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303931)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 11:15 PM
Author: chocolate genital piercing

When they did this in our office they also added like 8 mini conference rooms that hold 4 people uncomfortably. I basically try to find any reason to bogart one of those for as much of the day as possible now. Also helps that 70% of the office went to 2 or 3 days a week remote. Sadly my main senior exec client and all his directs come in every day and expect everyone they work with to do the same.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36304070)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 11:21 PM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

Yeah, we have "focus rooms" that are individual offices you can grab for "up to an hour" where I hang out in between meetings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36304111)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: multi-colored principal's office

Lol I'd rather be unemployed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303435)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Curious Orchestra Pit

Hth: these people actually prefer it this way

Slaves will be slaves

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303486)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Naked big base travel guidebook

They really do

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Date: June 24th, 2018 9:18 PM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

Idk, people at my office hate it. People definitely used to come in way more before they switched to open office.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303516)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 9:28 PM
Author: sable godawful foreskin

Does everyone have the option to work from home? Why do people come in at all?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303573)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 9:57 PM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

Some of us have official permission (like me).

Others sneak it depending on the tolerance of their managers. This has increased dramatically since the open office plan.

I still come in 1-2x a week just to meet with people in person.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303742)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:28 PM
Author: sable godawful foreskin

What exactly do you do that requires an in person meeting? What’s wrong with a fucking phone call?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303849)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:38 PM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

Requires? few things "require" an in-person meeting. But some things are better done in person anyway, possibly because some people prefer it. Or sometimes that's the most efficient way of getting things done (you get everyone in a room and work on what you need to work on until you get done).

I realize I'm lucky to be allowed to WFH most of the time, so I try not to abuse it and be the reason it isn't allowed. So if there's a real desire to meet in person, I show up. I try to stack in person meetings during 1-2 afternoons. This allows everone to be happy. I get to WFH most of the time, and people that want to meet with me in person can still do that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303891)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: sable godawful foreskin

You can just as easily review documents or reports or whatever other bullshit youdo over the phone. Lol at this corporate nonsense

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303899)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:42 PM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

We actually discuss strategy and approaches together so everyone can agree on what we're doing. We're not "reviewing docs". We're a large corporation so yes, this is how business gets done.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303918)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: sable godawful foreskin

Ok and why can’t this nonsense get sorted out over the phone?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303920)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:43 PM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

Because a) some people prefer to do it in person, and b) because sometimes it is more productive to do it together in one room. Simple as that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303924)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:44 PM
Author: sable godawful foreskin

a) sure, faggots and women like to do corporate bullshit in person because it makes them feel powerful

B) how is it more productive?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303929)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:52 PM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

a) A lot of these people are senior exec boomers/late gen Xers, and it is really their call;

b) Because some people work better when they can see facial expressions and there's a lot of politics involved in this shit, so getting in a room and just getting a decision by the end is often the fastest way to get to a resolution.

Also, a piece of advice: if you're the asshole that fights all of this, you're just who gets axed in the inevitable next round of layoffs or who gets forced to come into the office every single day and gets micromanaged. If you're the boss in charge then sure, you can do what you want. Otherwise, you'll follow orders or get sent packing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303961)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 11:02 PM
Author: sable godawful foreskin

For b, then use videoconferencing.

Also, agreed that only women and beta men are suited for this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36304007)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 11:04 PM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

Said "women and beta men" are in charge, you work for them. Which, of course, makes you the beta. Do as you're told or there's the door. Have a nice life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36304016)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 11:05 PM
Author: sable godawful foreskin

Will gladly walk out that door. Have fun taking marching orders for the rest of your life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36304026)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 11:09 PM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

LOL, you aren't even brave enough to post under a real moniker. Easy talking tough on the internet under a pumo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36304047)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 11:11 PM
Author: sable godawful foreskin

Yeah yeah I’m a pumo. Go fuck yourself cuck. I’ll be asleep tomorrow morning while you’re “getting ready for work”.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36304058)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 11:16 PM
Author: Rambunctious abode tattoo

(Guy that hasn't gotten ready for work in 6 years)

(Guy that always seems to leave the house with one hand smelling like he just masturbated)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36304081)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 11:20 PM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

"Getting ready for work" will involve waking up, going downstairs to my computer while making awesome money. You will wake up whenever and make $0.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36304099)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 11:01 AM
Author: Flesh toaster

How is $300k awesome money?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36762798)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

Where do you live that it isn't? That is top what, 1% or so?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36763300)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:46 AM
Author: cream filthpig

your hostility in this subthread is really bizarre. Was TMF your old boss or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305417)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:36 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert



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Date: June 24th, 2018 9:23 PM
Author: Slate swashbuckling public bath fat ankles

I wonder what that constant barrage of white noise is doing to their brains

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303546)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:26 PM
Author: racy stead legal warrant

that https://www.openoffice.org life

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303845)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:36 PM
Author: Flesh toaster

*blows brains out*

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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:38 PM
Author: Claret stag film boiling water



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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: tripping shimmering point

Oh it gets worse. No assigned seating, drop in space only. Pack everything in and out daily.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303903)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:54 PM
Author: Yapping jade clown half-breed

This would be ok if you could also work from home half the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303967)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: Claret stag film boiling water

Open offices are partly a necessary evil due to economic regression over the last few decades. There's a mutual lack of trust between upper management and lower-level managers, and no company loyalty. Open offices serve a dual function as a risk reduction method and managerial control method since everyone can watch and police everyone else. Of course, everyone also takes a mental health hit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303940)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 11:22 PM
Author: ruby vivacious shitlib

Open offices are fine in areas where footage isn't insanely expensive and people get a good amount of space. It's weird to go your flyover office park and get stuffed in a cube.

Nice open offices >>> cubes >>>>>> bay area sweatshop version of open offices

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36304115)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 11:03 AM
Author: puce pungent institution lettuce

office >>>>>>>>>>>>> no office

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36762807)



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Date: June 24th, 2018 11:23 PM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

Productivity has plummeted like a rock (at least, for those in the office). In reality, it is just another corporate fad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36304118)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:44 AM
Author: Claret stag film boiling water

It’s not really a fad. Open plan offices are common in shithole countries where there’s a similarly shitty employee <-> employer relationship. Most likely they’re here to stay until corporate culture changes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36304412)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:40 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert

it's completely a fad in this country. somehow all of GC managed to completely remodel their office spaces at the exact same time and in the exact same way. it's weird as fuck.

renovating entire offices isn't cheap or easy to do so you're right that they're not going to go back to normal cubes any time soon. open offices at least now are new and trendy looking and have high tech shit. it will be even more depressing once it starts to look dated and the high tech stuff starts to break.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36304969)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:30 AM
Author: sable godawful foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36304928)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:28 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert

Like two years ago my company switched to open office style with the small desk space, low walls, no assigned seating, lockers, coat rooms, tiny conference "huddle" rooms, high tech shit everywhere, etc. When I first saw the office it blew my mind how fucktardedly mindblowingly stupid the new setup was. It's even more mindblowingly stupid when you realize that nearly all of corporate america is doing the same thing, spending billion$ in the process.

1. despite having tiny ass desks and no privacy, it doesn't seem to actually save any space. the desks are in 2x2 cross shaped blocks with a good amount of space between each block. Just eyeballing it you could tell that normal 2x2 cubicle blocks would easily fit in the space that the 2x2 shitdesks take up.

2. they were sold on the open office idea initially because they were consolidating 2 office buildings into a single one. between the desks not actually saving space and all the extra conference rooms and other crap, you're barely even increasing seating capacity. This doesn't even fucking matter because the new office setup is so retarded that everyone who could come up with any excuse to WFH did so. I walked around the floor last time I was there and it was maybe 50% occupied.

3. making the office overly trendy looking and investing in tons of high tech shit just accelerates how quickly it will look like shit, start breaking, how costly it will be to be replace stuff. like for years everyone just used simple projectors and pull down screens for meetings and it worked fine. If the projector broke you ordered a new one for like $200. The now replaced all of those with giant ass wall mounted monitors that you need to install an app to connect to and probably cost like $15K. They look super cool now but that shit will be a nightmare to replace and maintain.

I'll think of more stuff later. this barely scratches the surface.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305101)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:48 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert

4. The idea of unassigned seating is so far detached from even a basic understanding of human behavior that it has to have been thought up by an XO poaster. Obviously everyone who still goes in the office has "their" seat that they sit in every day and if some random faggot shows up and sits there they would tell them to gtfo. I get that there are ppl who barely come in and giving them an assigned office is a waste (I've seen particularly stupid examples of this over the years) but there are ways to avoid that without taking the ape approach and getting rid of assigned space for everybody.

5. it's disgusting. everyone is supposed to ride a dirty piss soaked subway with ppl coughing all over you just to get to an office with no separation to keep ppl from coughing all over you there and everyone hangs their influenza drenched coats in a communal coat closet. There are going to be examples if it hasn't happened already where entire departments get the flu and someone will eventually die from this.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305163)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert

6. the idea of "improved productivity" really means we want to make sure you don't fuck around on the internet all day. never mind that they waited until every single person carried a personal computer that fits in their pocket and can connect to the internet independent of the company's network to start giving a shit about this. that and also having half the company working at home in their underwear and the other half in a Chinese factory environment is really great for building a healthy company culture.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305194)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:32 AM
Author: maroon vengeful elastic band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305340)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:33 AM
Author: floppy free-loading multi-billionaire hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305344)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:53 AM
Author: Bat shit crazy boltzmann theater stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305452)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: electric candlestick maker kitchen



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36306126)



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Date: October 8th, 2018 9:02 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36983514)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: sable godawful foreskin

What would happen if everyone just started working from home? And why do people even come into the office?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305176)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert

enough already do that basically every meeting is a conference call. everyone being in the office is actually more productive, especially for meetings. I'm a WFHmo and cherish it but I'll even admit that. anyone who says otherwise isn't being honest.

it's department and manager specific so it varies. some ppl have to and others i guess want to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305221)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:07 AM
Author: sable godawful foreskin

Cr, no doubt that wfh is worse from a managerial and productivity perspective. It's just grating when bootlickers like TMF do the bosses job for them and advocate for shit that's clearly bad for the workers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305234)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:17 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert

he's not wrong though. having a 50/50 home/office split does hurt productivity depending on what type of work being done. too many ppl work from home now and view it as a perk, so it would be tough to take that away and going 100% virtual also would have it's own challenges.

spending millions on switching to open offices just because cool people in California do it makes no sense though and will just accelerate the move to 100% remote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305279)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: floppy free-loading multi-billionaire hospital

>> spending millions on switching to open offices just because cool people in California do it makes no sense though and will just accelerate the move to 100% remote. <<

perhaps that's part of the idea? physical plant in these locations is pretty expensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305290)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:30 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert

I doubt that's actually the case. I just don't see shitboomer GC overlords playing 3D chess like that. I think it's just the cool kids in SV doing it so everyone is following suit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305324)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:42 AM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

I think building WFH into the model to further reduce costs is definitely part of the equation. I know with our office they assume that a certain number of people will be in at any given time (nowhere near 100%) and if everyone actually showed up we would run out of space.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305393)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:44 AM
Author: floppy free-loading multi-billionaire hospital

i think this is right.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305407)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert

Yea but they went full retard and refused to assign space even to people who come in every day. And in practice they aren’t even close to running out of space because so many ppl wfh. There’s no need to cram desks together

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305609)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:35 AM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

With us, they crammed more people in the same space, so even with WFH the place is often packed. The WFH is built into their expectations. Of course, the flaw in the plan is that people are out or WFH Monday and Friday but Tu, We and Th there's a space crunch.

Supposedly, the lack of assigned spaces ensures "more efficient usage" of desks. The concept makes sense, but of course it just drives people not to come in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305634)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:46 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert

I've seen lulzy examples of poor space management over the years that probably led to that mindset. even still, the ppl who come in every day are going to sit in the same spot regardless so you may as well just assign it to them.

I worked on a floor with a lot of executive offices once. There was a CEO office that no one actually used. We would use it for meetings but were told that wasn't allowed after a while. Last time I checked it was being used to store chairs. Another shitboomer female vp DEMANDED her own office space on the exec floor so they converted a large conference room to an office for her. In four years I never saw her once.

I worked at a place that was 100% cubicles except for the exec floor. That was actually pretty efficient because you could convert the VP and management cubes back to low level faggot cubes if you wanted to.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305684)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:51 AM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

"even still, the ppl who come in every day are going to sit in the same spot regardless so you may as well just assign it to them."

Agreed, and we've seen that. Some people (usually admin staff) have REBELLED against the rules and even leave personal items on their claimed little space. Of course, no one is lame enough to do anything about it.

Re: the CEO - it's good to be the King.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305712)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:41 AM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

I'm actually a fan of near 100% remote. People just have to be flexible enough to meet in person if senior leaders decide that it makes sense.

As to people fucking around - great employees are great employees, and slackers are slackers. Overall, I'm more productive at home than in the office. Days I actually have to come in end up getting made up for when I WFH.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305387)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:56 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert

re #3: it's especially infuriating because for years we were sold the IN THIS ECONOMY line as the reason for all the nickel and dime cost cutting bullshit they've done since the recession then they go and drop millions into this shit.

Like you can't take the 6 people who report to you out to happy hour at Chillis and it takes VP approval to order a stapler but it's nbd to cover the walls with flatscreen TVs for no discernable reason.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305743)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:53 AM
Author: Know-it-all overrated legend

" I hang my lunchbox from the arm of my chair because there's no other convenient place for it. I've been meaning to bring a picture of my family in."

"I've been meaning to bring a picture of my family in."

"I've been meaning to bring a picture of my family in."

"I've been meaning to bring a picture of my family in."

"I've been meaning to bring a picture of my family in."

"I've been meaning to bring a picture of my family in."

"I've been meaning to bring a picture of my family in."

"I've been meaning to bring a picture of my family in."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305180)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:22 AM
Author: wonderful grizzly dilemma giraffe

Honestly the best job I had was open office with dudes I actually liked working with. It was a good time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305295)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:31 AM
Author: floppy free-loading multi-billionaire hospital

a cohesive culture in a company is actually a pretty great thing. it makes everything better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305332)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:34 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert

I agree with this. All the penny pinching and other crap that came out of ITE really did a number on culture before anyone really started working at home.

all you need to do is take everyone out to lunch and/or get them drink on the company dime every so often and you'll end up with a team where everyone gets along. not hard.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305354)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:38 AM
Author: floppy free-loading multi-billionaire hospital

agreed. though i will go one-step further.

i think you need two other things in addition to that

1. you need to hire people who fit the same mold. companies shouldn't be like frats obviously, but they should be a little fratty in a way by hiring people that all clearly mesh well together. also i personally think the higher the male % the better.

2. companies need to know when to yield to employees. i've had to cancel trips and things in the past for work, but it makes a HUGE difference if i can say to someone, "this is non-negotiable and very important to me" and they actually respect it. and they should also respect the holidays. if you give people a break when it's really important to them, that will come back in spades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305371)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:31 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert

I think offices were mostly open back in the 70s and 80s. everyone just smoked and read the paper and bullshitted all day.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305337)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:43 AM
Author: sable godawful foreskin

What kind of people worked in these offices? Did they tend to come from a certain... Demographic?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305403)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:28 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert

Not really

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305603)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:45 AM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

Yeah, from what I can tell from open offices now, minus the smoking and the internet now being online, it is exactly the same. I see groups of people just "hanging out" instead of actually working. When we had actual offices this was far rarer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305409)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:35 AM
Author: honey-headed philosopher-king casino

Describe the feeling when someone walks by your peripheral vision.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305362)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:41 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert

probably better than having someone sidle up to your office or cube and you have to quickly close the XO window you have open.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305388)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:42 AM
Author: honey-headed philosopher-king casino

https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/open-plan-offices-bad-for-employees-focus-workplace-attention-distractions-a7730006.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305397)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:46 AM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305415)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:50 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert

you're probably more productive when you actually commit to doing work in an office/cube but you're less likely to do so

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305708)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:07 PM
Author: honey-headed philosopher-king casino

There's no need to internalize middle management.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305798)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: honey-headed philosopher-king casino

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-p6WWRarjNs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305421)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:53 AM
Author: floppy free-loading multi-billionaire hospital

EGREGIOUS Frank Lloyd Wright trolling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305451)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:33 AM
Author: supple insane halford dragon



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305615)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:49 AM
Author: boyish hateful liquid oxygen

Open office offers nice lighting and views out of windows, but it makes it impossible to get any non routine work done without delays.

Conference room squatting is ever present, and companies presumably lose a significant number of deals due to people being unable to find an open conference room in time for a call.

I'm jealous of the WFH bros who call into conference calls with their puppydood ruffing in the background.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305706)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:52 AM
Author: Aromatic shrine really tough guy

I will say though, even for us WFH bros, when people in the open office are on calls it sounds like they're in a freakin' airport. Background noise on conferences calls has increased tenfold.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305723)



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Date: July 1st, 2018 5:24 PM
Author: sable godawful foreskin



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36345867)



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Date: October 8th, 2018 9:01 AM
Author: violent shivering theater pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36983511)



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Date: October 8th, 2018 9:14 AM
Author: Disgusting library feces

You all niggers know where I work at this point. Our bank is basically tearing down their biggest tower in Manhattan and rebuilding it for this shit and in the meantime we are warehousing the 15,000 people who worked there in our lower Manhattan, Brooklyn and Jersey City offices half of which have already been converted to this setup. I have spoken to the GC of the whole bank about exactly this. They save mad bank by going open office and encouraging half the people to work from home everyday. They save so much bank that theyve rented out entire floors to other companies now. TTT Alstate is in our Brooklyn campus and TTT Citibank got a floor in one of our Jersey City towers. They save tens of millions doing this shit and then make millions more in rent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36983544)



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Date: March 6th, 2019 1:39 PM
Author: orange effete church



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#37887814)