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Date: June 24th, 2018 7:57 PM Author: Canary corner dragon
First, not every open office is the same. Some are doing the hotelling model (nothing allowed on the desk, nowhere to put a picture).
Our open office model gives us assigned 6'x3' desks in 6x2 blocks with 12" separators on the sides and a 24" tackboard divider on the back of the desk. My desk is a cluttered mess of loose leaf tea, business cards, paper notes, my briefcase, mugs and cups, etc. I hang my lunchbox from the arm of my chair because there's no other convenient place for it. I've been meaning to bring a picture of my family in.
We also have lockers (maybe 2'x2'x2'), but I use mine for storing extra cutlery for when I host department breakfasts every couple weeks. Some stick their purses in there or their briefcases. I find it rather inconvenient to store anything that gets used in there. There's a coatrack at the end of the row of desks for rainy days like today.
The ambiance is nice enough. I sit 15 feet from a window, so there's plenty of natural light. The ceiling is high and the walls are bright, so it doesn't feel claustrophobic despite there being 5 people nearly within arm's reach. They pump in white noise so that conversations don't carry as much and so that the clicks and taps of keyboards don't drive everybody nuts. Most people put headphones on all day.
Most of us take non-confidential calls at our desks, and it's really not a bother. There are some folks who are a bit loud, but the ambient noise dampens that issue. Sometimes, if there are groups of people having conversations, the ambient noise is too loud to hear one's phone call properly, but some of that may be that my hearing isn't the best.
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Date: June 24th, 2018 9:12 PM Author: Fighting concupiscible friendly grandma property
Hth: these people actually prefer it this way
Slaves will be slaves
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Date: June 24th, 2018 9:57 PM Author: Tripping Laser Beams
Some of us have official permission (like me).
Others sneak it depending on the tolerance of their managers. This has increased dramatically since the open office plan.
I still come in 1-2x a week just to meet with people in person.
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Date: June 24th, 2018 10:52 PM Author: Tripping Laser Beams
a) A lot of these people are senior exec boomers/late gen Xers, and it is really their call;
b) Because some people work better when they can see facial expressions and there's a lot of politics involved in this shit, so getting in a room and just getting a decision by the end is often the fastest way to get to a resolution.
Also, a piece of advice: if you're the asshole that fights all of this, you're just who gets axed in the inevitable next round of layoffs or who gets forced to come into the office every single day and gets micromanaged. If you're the boss in charge then sure, you can do what you want. Otherwise, you'll follow orders or get sent packing.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36303961) |
Date: June 25th, 2018 9:28 AM Author: Laughsome Beta Tattoo
Like two years ago my company switched to open office style with the small desk space, low walls, no assigned seating, lockers, coat rooms, tiny conference "huddle" rooms, high tech shit everywhere, etc. When I first saw the office it blew my mind how fucktardedly mindblowingly stupid the new setup was. It's even more mindblowingly stupid when you realize that nearly all of corporate america is doing the same thing, spending billion$ in the process.
1. despite having tiny ass desks and no privacy, it doesn't seem to actually save any space. the desks are in 2x2 cross shaped blocks with a good amount of space between each block. Just eyeballing it you could tell that normal 2x2 cubicle blocks would easily fit in the space that the 2x2 shitdesks take up.
2. they were sold on the open office idea initially because they were consolidating 2 office buildings into a single one. between the desks not actually saving space and all the extra conference rooms and other crap, you're barely even increasing seating capacity. This doesn't even fucking matter because the new office setup is so retarded that everyone who could come up with any excuse to WFH did so. I walked around the floor last time I was there and it was maybe 50% occupied.
3. making the office overly trendy looking and investing in tons of high tech shit just accelerates how quickly it will look like shit, start breaking, how costly it will be to be replace stuff. like for years everyone just used simple projectors and pull down screens for meetings and it worked fine. If the projector broke you ordered a new one for like $200. The now replaced all of those with giant ass wall mounted monitors that you need to install an app to connect to and probably cost like $15K. They look super cool now but that shit will be a nightmare to replace and maintain.
I'll think of more stuff later. this barely scratches the surface.
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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:46 AM Author: Laughsome Beta Tattoo
I've seen lulzy examples of poor space management over the years that probably led to that mindset. even still, the ppl who come in every day are going to sit in the same spot regardless so you may as well just assign it to them.
I worked on a floor with a lot of executive offices once. There was a CEO office that no one actually used. We would use it for meetings but were told that wasn't allowed after a while. Last time I checked it was being used to store chairs. Another shitboomer female vp DEMANDED her own office space on the exec floor so they converted a large conference room to an office for her. In four years I never saw her once.
I worked at a place that was 100% cubicles except for the exec floor. That was actually pretty efficient because you could convert the VP and management cubes back to low level faggot cubes if you wanted to.
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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:51 AM Author: Tripping Laser Beams
"even still, the ppl who come in every day are going to sit in the same spot regardless so you may as well just assign it to them."
Agreed, and we've seen that. Some people (usually admin staff) have REBELLED against the rules and even leave personal items on their claimed little space. Of course, no one is lame enough to do anything about it.
Re: the CEO - it's good to be the King.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305712) |
Date: June 25th, 2018 9:53 AM Author: buck-toothed persian school cafeteria
" I hang my lunchbox from the arm of my chair because there's no other convenient place for it. I've been meaning to bring a picture of my family in."
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:38 AM Author: marvelous useless brakes
agreed. though i will go one-step further.
i think you need two other things in addition to that
1. you need to hire people who fit the same mold. companies shouldn't be like frats obviously, but they should be a little fratty in a way by hiring people that all clearly mesh well together. also i personally think the higher the male % the better.
2. companies need to know when to yield to employees. i've had to cancel trips and things in the past for work, but it makes a HUGE difference if i can say to someone, "this is non-negotiable and very important to me" and they actually respect it. and they should also respect the holidays. if you give people a break when it's really important to them, that will come back in spades.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305371) |
Date: June 25th, 2018 11:49 AM Author: adulterous house turdskin
Open office offers nice lighting and views out of windows, but it makes it impossible to get any non routine work done without delays.
Conference room squatting is ever present, and companies presumably lose a significant number of deals due to people being unable to find an open conference room in time for a call.
I'm jealous of the WFH bros who call into conference calls with their puppydood ruffing in the background.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009475&forum_id=2#36305706) |
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