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You can see how MENTALLY ILL this NY Times journalist must be (young woman)

Read this shit, jfc https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/bu...
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but what's key is how she acts, notice how she SHOVES in the...
cracking honey-headed potus
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what does it say about Politico and the NYT that they hired ...
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cruel-hearted charismatic doctorate
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Yeah no way Wolfe was her only slip up Girl's a dumb whor...
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LOL at catty coworkers calling this girl a slut
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NOTHING comes between a shrew and her travel plans
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i wouldn't fuck this ali watkins woman drunk. i'm not even s...
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Mr. Wolfe, 57, was arrested on June 7 and charged with lying...
Pearly milk piazza
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oh what an intelligence expert
Ruby hell rigpig
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LOL reading through this chick has had at least 3 "rela...
Territorial people who are hurt nowag
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LJL at the times being outraged that her records were seized...
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Trump said pussy. Square enough for you bigot?
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incisive
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women have no agency and are not responsible for any poor de...
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but we need a lot more of them as CEOs of major businesses
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not to defend her, but don't pretend like the wizened dood w...
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worse IMO bc he's a gov't official.
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Date: June 25th, 2018 6:59 AM
Author: cracking honey-headed potus

Read this shit, jfc

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/06/24/business/media/james-wolfe-ali-watkins-leaks-reporter.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304824)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:06 AM
Author: Territorial people who are hurt nowag

Lol at DC where a 4 gets showered with attention, gifts, and meals from old hack bureaucrats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304830)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:07 AM
Author: swashbuckling dysfunction address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304831)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:12 AM
Author: cracking honey-headed potus

but what's key is how she acts, notice how she SHOVES in the FACE of her colleagues OH SOME MAN GAVE ME CHOCOLATE !!! SIGH!!!

these are mentally ill people, I know because I am one of them

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304836)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:23 AM
Author: lilac parlor

what does it say about Politico and the NYT that they hired her? And it's not like she was an Ivy Leaguer. She went to TTTemple. NYT only hires 3 types of people: ppl from brand name schools, jews and minorities. Ergo, she wouldn't have accomplished jack shit in journalism if she didn't suck this old man's dick.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304842)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:45 AM
Author: cruel-hearted charismatic doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304872)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:12 AM
Author: cracking honey-headed potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304835)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:26 AM
Author: cruel-hearted charismatic doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304847)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:31 AM
Author: lilac parlor

Yeah no way Wolfe was her only slip up

Girl's a dumb whore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304851)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:32 AM
Author: Territorial people who are hurt nowag

LOL at catty coworkers calling this girl a slut

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304855)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:23 AM
Author: silver thriller field

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305090)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:24 AM
Author: ungodly mood



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:59 AM
Author: Olive Degenerate Stage



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: excitant azure useless brakes stag film



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Date: June 26th, 2018 3:52 AM
Author: marvelous flushed internal respiration



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:46 AM
Author: laughsome roast beef wrinkle

Let’s dispel the illusion that this writer doesn’t know exactly what they’re doing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305151)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: bisexual impressive son of senegal



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:26 AM
Author: cracking honey-headed potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304848)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:32 AM
Author: cruel-hearted charismatic doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304854)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:26 AM
Author: Aromatic ladyboy bawdyhouse

HER JOURNALISM

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305095)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:34 AM
Author: cruel-hearted charismatic doctorate



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:16 AM
Author: Lemon Arousing Death Wish New Version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305274)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:08 AM
Author: stimulating cruise ship



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: excitant azure useless brakes stag film



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36308772)



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Date: June 26th, 2018 3:05 AM
Author: unhinged judgmental psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36310514)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:43 AM
Author: cruel-hearted charismatic doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304868)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 7:59 AM
Author: cruel-hearted charismatic doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304885)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: ebony tanning salon coldplay fan

NOTHING comes between a shrew and her travel plans

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305946)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: cruel-hearted charismatic doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305959)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:00 AM
Author: Bateful Sandwich Den

i wouldn't fuck this ali watkins woman drunk. i'm not even sure i'd let her blow me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36304886)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:53 AM
Author: Pearly milk piazza

Mr. Wolfe, 57, was arrested on June 7 and charged with lying to investigators about his contacts with Ms. Watkins and three other journalists.

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So he had 4 journalists chicks in rotation?

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The gray-haired father of two stood out amid the young crowd who gathered for barbecues in Ms. Watkins’s backyard in the Adams Morgan neighborhood of Washington. She introduced him as Jim, her boyfriend.

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This seems incompetent

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305013)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:46 AM
Author: Ruby hell rigpig

oh what an intelligence expert

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305148)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:01 AM
Author: Territorial people who are hurt nowag

LOL reading through this chick has had at least 3 "relationships" with sources

what a fucking slore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305036)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:24 AM
Author: swollen national security agency

LJL at the times being outraged that her records were seized by the government because there was "no allegation that classified information was disclosed." Hard to see how that squares with them being rah rah for Michael Cohen's office to be raided.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305091)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:36 AM
Author: Exciting Gas Station Keepsake Machete

Trump said pussy. Square enough for you bigot?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305125)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:44 AM
Author: Self-centered trailer park

“People all across Washington are in all sorts of various relationships,” Ryan Grim, Ms. Watkins’s former editor at The Huffington Post, said in an interview. “You manage it, you put up walls, but you can’t pretend that you’re not human. Ali is a great reporter and I trust her judgment.

What I see is the Trump administration seizing a reporter’s records and tricking the press into writing about her sex life,” added Mr. Grim, who is now the Washington bureau chief of The Intercept. “It’s appalling what the Trump administration is doing and I don’t think you should enable it."

Lmao @ this so-called journalist

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305145)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:47 AM
Author: laughsome roast beef wrinkle

Mr Grim has fallen really far since Twisted Metal 2

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305158)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:47 PM
Author: unholy wonderful plaza



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Date: June 26th, 2018 2:04 AM
Author: maniacal electric furnace garrison



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Date: June 26th, 2018 2:08 AM
Author: Crystalline insane chapel

He's the same idiot who stole Jesse watters cell phone and started a fight with him at the White House correspondents dinner

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36310462)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:46 AM
Author: Territorial people who are hurt nowag

So on a scale of 1 to ethical, how does everyone feel about pulling a @RealZoeBarnes for story ideas? #TOTALLYKIDDING @HouseofCards

https://twitter.com/aliwatkins/status/347800186195701760?s=21

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305149)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:47 AM
Author: Territorial people who are hurt nowag

https://twitter.com/aliwatkins/status/319071061566169088?s=21

I wanted to be Zoe Barnes...until episode 4. Sleeping with your source- especially a vindictive congressman? #badlifechoice #HouseofCards

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305155)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:47 AM
Author: Ruby hell rigpig

lolling at this old impotent fag sleeping with some ugly bumble monster and thinking he's 007

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305159)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: khaki antidepressant drug abode



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:08 AM
Author: sable histrionic depressive



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:13 AM
Author: Vengeful obsidian party of the first part



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:48 AM
Author: shimmering genital piercing public bath

"jimbarnes007@gmail.com" is the true laugh-out-loud moment in this article

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305427)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:27 PM
Author: rough-skinned orchestra pit



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: Lemon Arousing Death Wish New Version



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: Lemon Arousing Death Wish New Version



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: ebony tanning salon coldplay fan



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:13 PM
Author: excitant azure useless brakes stag film



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Date: June 25th, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: khaki antidepressant drug abode

So Wolfe's MO is exchanging tips to young reporters as an "in". Watkins is a reporter covering the specific committee Wolfe is on, and despite being very young and otherwise ordinary manages to get hot takes all the time.

She kind of discloses the relationship but not really.

As soon as she's outed, she breaks off her 3 year relationship with Wolfe, who incidentally starts the process all over again with another young female reporter, and immediately starts dating someone else who can feed her info.

Yes, the real story is a breach of the journalist's privacy and creepy obsession with a young woman's sex life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305197)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:50 AM
Author: Passionate green lettuce

incisive

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305438)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:52 AM
Author: Lemon Arousing Death Wish New Version

women have no agency and are not responsible for any poor decisions.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305447)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:07 AM
Author: stimulating cruise ship

but we need a lot more of them as CEOs of major businesses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305520)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:00 PM
Author: sable histrionic depressive

https://goo.gl/images/sqaDXU

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305763)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:17 PM
Author: up-to-no-good principal's office

not to defend her, but don't pretend like the wizened dood was any better

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305854)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:25 PM
Author: khaki antidepressant drug abode

worse IMO bc he's a gov't official.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305909)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: Lemon Arousing Death Wish New Version

No one is defending or excusing him. Hes being federally prosecuted.

Our point is that she should also be shamed and run out of journalism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305918)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:14 AM
Author: amber slippery senate

This is why they used to use eunuchs as bureaucrats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305558)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: cruel-hearted charismatic doctorate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305559)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:16 PM
Author: Lemon Arousing Death Wish New Version



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Date: June 26th, 2018 3:56 AM
Author: marvelous flushed internal respiration



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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: Lemon Arousing Death Wish New Version

“With no allegation that classified information was disclosed, they said such a rare and aggressive tactic was unjustified and could undermine journalists’ ability to report on government misconduct.“

JFC shitlib journos - they are evidence of a fucking crime. Contrary to what you want to believe, you dont have protections above and beyond the average citizen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305269)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:07 AM
Author: stimulating cruise ship

lib "journalists" so desperate to find dirt on Trump they're reduced to selling their bodies to predatory swamp politicians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36305518)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 6:27 PM
Author: cracking honey-headed potus



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:06 PM
Author: cracking honey-headed potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36308752)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 8:18 PM
Author: Disturbing step-uncle's house cuckoldry

Every time I check a pic of the woman involved in something like this I think of Peter griffin saying "oh that's fine. We don't care about meg."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36308801)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:25 PM
Author: cracking honey-headed potus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36309921)



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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:53 PM
Author: Crystalline insane chapel

cr. this is the image she self selected for her twitter - i.e. the "best" picture of her. let that sink in.

https://pbs.twimg.com/profile_images/993895381523148800/AQNCzf5X_400x400.jpg

look at those bags under her eyes, neck as thick as a linebacker, big nose, old lady lips

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009706&forum_id=2#36310028)



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Date: June 26th, 2018 1:01 AM
Author: Lemon Arousing Death Wish New Version

But she looks so smart and profssional!

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Date: June 26th, 2018 4:57 AM
Author: sable histrionic depressive

Loving the term bumble monster

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