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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:37 PM Author: Irradiated Sanctuary Boltzmann So like, Singapore right?
It's immaculately clean. Everything functions perfectly, public transport, police, fire fighting systems.
80 percent of housing is public housing that is clean and well kept.
The population is very diverse yet there is no social strife. Any hint of racism or bigotry is met with incredible force.
There is a wide ranging and very deep surveillance system. There are restrictions on the internet. Mainly, people are happy to trade the notion of privacy for security or perceived security.
There is strict government control, however Singapore is very capitalist and deeply integrated into the global economy. If one works and plays by the rules, one is rewarded handsomely. Drinking age is 18 and prostitution is legal and regulated.
For the most part, contrary to Western notions of freedom and free democracy, Singapore has blended a form of capitalism with very strict but discreet control. The weird thing is, it seems to work.
But there's still something about it I can't quite put my finger on that creeps me out. I can't deny that it works, but something about it doesn't sit right. It's almost as if the government in power has honed its presence and control so artfully the population is not only under its thumb, but totally content with the arrangement. |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:39 PM Author: Aromatic House internet isnt that controlled, and people are extremely racist, its just seen as a fact of life and government policies are in place to fight racial factionalism (e.g. the GRC system where people vote for "teams" of 3-5 representatives which must be racially diverse, so you dont end up with 'the muslim party', 'the chinese party' and 'the indian party' like in malaysia) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306001) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 4:20 PM Author: Curious lime black woman (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36307509) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:43 PM Author: alcoholic codepig Interesting (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309615) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:50 PM Author: kink-friendly faggot firefighter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309657) |
Date: June 25th, 2018 12:40 PM Author: glassy chest-beating kitty cat It's full of striving Han Chinese who see themselves as superior to the rest of the locals. The Singapore model can only work in Singapore (i.e., located next to 1/2 of global trade traffic). It offers its citizens nothing to achieve other than becoming a cog w/ a six-figure salary. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306003) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:44 PM Author: Irradiated Sanctuary Boltzmann It's true, that's exactly it, a cog with a six figure salary. A city state with a 500 billion dollar economy and a 90k per capita GDP. It's creepy, but it does work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306025) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:47 PM Author: Aromatic House i dont think singapore is any more 'cog-ish' than any other major financial center. plenty of opportunities to do other shit if you want to, prob easier since the country is so rich and also desperate to promote itself as more than a trading hub (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306050) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:50 PM Author: glassy chest-beating kitty cat Fake news. They're trying to promote tech, which is basically the same type of shit. What if you just want to become a blue collar worker or artsy type? You can't. In NYC/London/Frankfurt/Tokyo/etc. your parents can be financemos, but that doesn't mean their kids have to be. In Singapore there's little choice. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306066) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:52 PM Author: Aromatic House theres tons of funding for artsy shit. there's even more funding for entrepreneurship.
there are tons of blue collar workers too, the backbone of the economy, its just those jobs suck and you wouldnt want to do it. there's no chill park ranger type job with it being entirely urban. youll be working in some shitty factory or something, but tons of people do it.
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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:53 PM Author: Aromatic House bro, you dont seem to know what youre talking about tbh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306080) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:58 PM Author: glassy chest-beating kitty cat You're right. I'm just bored at work and my knowledge base on Singapore is based on a 72-hour trip there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306119) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:32 PM Author: Nofapping locale deer antler lmao and what exactly does any other country "offer its citizens to achieve." the great american novel? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309567) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:43 PM Author: up-to-no-good cobalt psychic stfu virgin. you are out of your element. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309613) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:51 PM Author: kink-friendly faggot firefighter Grapes of Wrath, brother. We have the opportunity to suck the milk out of the teat out of some fat bitch while migrating West as a homeless mentally ill loser in a caravan. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309662) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:41 PM Author: Henna theatre chinese people prefer strict authority, it's in their DNA
they are biologically different from white westerners, who are much more individualistic |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:45 PM Author: Irradiated Sanctuary Boltzmann Hmmm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306027) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 12:57 PM Author: buff aggressive death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306104) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:01 PM Author: Irradiated Sanctuary Boltzmann Even the musical trees. The grand public infrastructure. It's beautiful but again, it comes off as creepy. It's like everything is driven to placate the population. The free housing, the extensive upkeep of transit and public art, it is undeniably nice but at the same time it seems like more opiates for the masses. It's like authoritarian harmony. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306132) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:07 PM Author: buff aggressive death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306174) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:11 PM Author: Irradiated Sanctuary Boltzmann I've been told that one of the greatest "opiates for the masses" in Singapore as it were is the maid/butler culture. Every family has help, to the point where they never need to cook or clean. Someone is always there to watch the kids. They never do laundry, hardly lift a finger. The maids/butlers get a place to live and in return the people who they live with are coddled to the extreme. Singapore life almost reminds me of the highest class in Brave New World. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306204) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:49 PM Author: Lascivious gas station you might be thinking of Hong Kong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306423) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:55 PM Author: Irradiated Sanctuary Boltzmann Maybe similar there, but I heard in Singapore it's like this. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306470) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:14 PM Author: Aphrodisiac Gay Lodge Boiling Water forget the exact rules, but maids are highly regulated.
get mandatory one day a week off, get STD/pregnancy tested every 6 months (kicked out if fail), special type of visa where employer posts bond, if maid fucks up, the money is gone and so is maid.
some other weird rules about this. |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:34 PM Author: Nofapping locale deer antler why do they need STD/pregnancy tested every 6 months (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309572) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:35 PM Author: Aromatic House they dont want maids having babies in Signapore. Also, any foreigner who has hiv/aids is deported immediately. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309579) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:41 PM Author: soul-stirring impertinent nowag XOXO SINGAPORE (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309606) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:15 PM Author: Histrionic resort Instituted after seeing the fugly maid Arnold fucked (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309852) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:03 PM Author: Irradiated Sanctuary Boltzmann "-there's some kind of drive in the Western soul that demands Real Freedom, something that's willing to eschew social harmony and material comfort for the sake of the pursuit of the unknowable, or even, at times, some kind of Immanence"
This is scholarship. There is a drive in the Western spirit, particularly the American spirit, for True Freedom, which is almost a religious idea or has a religious foundation. A society and people not compelled by any force or government to behave a certain way. A society founded on the idea of people working together without any coercion - absolute (for the most part) freedom. |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:07 PM Author: Dead razzle theater stage *gets kicked out of restaurant for supporting the wrong political candidate*
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:22 PM Author: buff aggressive death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306277) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:29 PM Author: Henna theatre people are reading about The Atlanteans (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306312) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:30 PM Author: buff aggressive death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306320) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:16 PM Author: soul-stirring impertinent nowag stuffwhitepeoplelike: pretending cumskin societies are superior to non-cumskin societies
stuffwhitepeoplelike: immigrating to non-cumskin societies |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:13 PM Author: Vigorous Cocky Crackhouse Clown "so like, Singapore, right?"
kill yourself you fucking faggot |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:14 PM Author: Irradiated Sanctuary Boltzmann I didn't use two, commas, mother fucker. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306216) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: buff aggressive death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306307) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:40 PM Author: Vigorous Cocky Crackhouse Clown nigger penis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306369) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:41 PM Author: Irradiated Sanctuary Boltzmann That means 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306370) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 1:41 PM Author: buff aggressive death wish (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36306375) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:33 PM Author: Aromatic House To be honest, I think you're over stating the difference between 'Asians' and 'The West" in creating the conditions in Singapore. I think its much more a product of circumstances. You have to remember that Singapore became independent from the UK as part of Malaysia (hence the SI in the name), and was economically about on the same footing as its neighbors at the time. Then, it was unceremoniously kicked out of Malaysia for complaining about policies meant to give ethnic Malays opportunities at the expense of other races. There was a lot of angst about Singapore's ability to survive as an independent city state at all, particularly with potentially hostile neighbors dominated by Muslims surrounding the island. The PAP, for all its faults, was able to provide stability and reassurance to the population, and, more importantly, massive economic growth, to the extent that Singapore today is one of the richest countries in the world on a per capita basis. All a Singaporean has to do is take a quick trip to Jakarta to see what the alternative may have looked like. The populace was willing to accept some restraints in exchange for tangible results, and it seems like a rational response honestly. Nowadays, there is not much of an existential threat, and the younger people have only known a rich Singapore, thus you see more pushback against the overbearingness of the government, and against the PAP as a ruling party. I imagine this will only accelerate with time. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309569) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:49 PM Author: Sticky stirring toaster market I had no idea that the SI in MalaySIa is Singapore. Makes obvious sense though: Malaya + SI = Malaysia
Everything you write is credited but you have to admit that Singaporeans come off as really docile and obedient, almost a little brainwashed. I mean jfc they joke mockingly about the HKers who “have all these political opinions lol” and are “always protesting” just because the HKers care about their country and tried to stand up to mainland china for a while. Sings think it’s weird to have opinions and principles. |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:56 PM Author: Aromatic House The older generation absolutely, theyve been conditioned to keep their head down and plod along. I think younger Singaporeans are getting more opinionated as time goes on. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309701) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:58 PM Author: Sticky stirring toaster market I’ve heard this as much from younger Singaporeans as much though. But my sample is obviously much smaller than yours. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309717) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:30 PM Author: up-to-no-good cobalt psychic mel gibson at the end of braveheart yelling FREEDOM, as the chinks work their rice fields thousands of miles away... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309551) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:43 PM Author: Stimulating Territorial Set Nibblets It's everything the US isn't. It has no guns. It has no real crime. It overtly tries to prevent racism even if it still exists. It has efficient public transportation, one of the best airports in world, and cheap education and universal heathcare and also a good retirement system. It still retains its traditional Indian, Chinese and Malay culture while being modern whereas the US destroys traditional culture for commercialized whoredom.
In other words Singapore is good, the US is shit. DET TO AMERIKKKA
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:52 PM Author: Sticky stirring toaster market Singapore spent decades trying to tear down the old and largely did. Most of the “old” parts of town are Disney-like recreations that they rebuilt in the 1980s when the tourists started observing that all the interesting parts were now gone. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309663) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:56 PM Author: Stimulating Territorial Set Nibblets Who cares, tahts how you build a modern state. The US shld tear down all its urban areas and re build them using Chinese construction companeis who actually know wtf they are doing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309705) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:01 PM Author: Sticky stirring toaster market Yeah but then you can’t turn around and laud them for maintaining their traditional cultures, because apart from food they haven’t maintained any of that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309740) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:57 PM Author: Aromatic House this pisses me off, there's so little remnants of colonial architecture (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309708) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:59 PM Author: Sticky stirring toaster market And I think effectively none of it is original (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309726) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:56 PM Author: White partner lol at you trying to say SG is good but USA is commercialized whoredom. 55555 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309698) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:57 PM Author: Stimulating Territorial Set Nibblets wat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309707) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:10 PM Author: White partner did u not read ur post? u said SG is good and USA is a consumer whore. i laughed at that idea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309810) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:11 PM Author: Stimulating Territorial Set Nibblets at least sing has its culture still (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309816) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:15 PM Author: White partner no it doesnt. its culture is getting deals done for western and chinese companies and being able to buy the latest western toys (electronics, clothes, etc).
the only good thing of SG is that you can earn a lot and get a cheap life to somewhere great and cheap (thailand, vietnam, etc). life in SG is shit |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:53 PM Author: kink-friendly faggot firefighter I wouldn't mind living in Singapore, Hong Kong, Japan, Taiwan, etc.
"Wow Singapore is nice. I think it's weird and alien." - Fat, broke American loser who lives in a dump |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:56 PM Author: up-to-no-good cobalt psychic whites dont belong in asian societies, and asians dont belong in white societies.
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:58 PM Author: soul-stirring impertinent nowag stuffwhitepeoplelike: immigration to non-cumskin countries stuffwhitepeoplelike: decrying immigration |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:58 PM Author: kink-friendly faggot firefighter he's a Jew, which means he needs to go back to Israel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309716) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:59 PM Author: soul-stirring impertinent nowag PWN PWN PWN (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309730) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:03 PM Author: Sticky stirring toaster market you should keep to threads about korea (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309758) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:13 PM Author: motley frisky trailer park associate and not even those, really (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309833) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 10:58 PM Author: kink-friendly faggot firefighter go back to israel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4009851&forum_id=2#36309714) |
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Date: June 25th, 2018 11:30 PM Author: Irradiated Sanctuary Boltzmann It’s not alien that it’s nice. It’s very nice. What I’m saying is it’s something about how they achieved this contrived “niceness” that creeps me out. And like many have pointed out it’s hard to argue with little to no crime, high standard of living, great housing and infrastructure. But even still...
As much as I complain about the E train and bums, why does the grittiness of nyc that I loathe suddenly give me a pang of nostalgia? Bc nyc in spite of its faults is genuine. Does that make sense? And I know Singapore is “genuine” in its own way. It’s authoritarian harmony. It’s just what’s beneath the surface, the grand shadow behind it, that gives me pause. |