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Date: June 28th, 2018 11:35 AM Author: Smoky really tough guy
Fellas, we are just over a week away from the 105th edition of the TOUR DE FRANCE.
The first week looks like an utter snooze fest, with the highlights being the team time trial in Stage 3 and some rollers on Stage 5 that set up for Sagan or someone in the breakaway to take the stage.
The last 2 weeks will have some pretty epic stages:
Stage 9: Cobbles
Stage 10: Brutal mountain stage with three Category 1 climbs and one HC climb
Stage 11: short stage with a summit finish, so the GC contenders will be attacking from the very start
Stage 12: Two HC climbs and a summit finish at ALPE D'HUEZ. Everyone will be gunning for this one
Stage 17: Another super short stage with a summit finish. This will be interesting because for the first time ever they're employing a grid start based on overall standings. Froome won't have the whole sky train around to save him on this stage.
Stage 20: individual time trial.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36327953)
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 1:31 PM Author: Smoky really tough guy
Some crazy shit happened this weekend.
The French losers tried to pull some shady shit by banning Froome at the last minute--knowing that the French court system wouldn't do anything about it within the week.
This ultimately forced UCI and WADA's hand and they ended up clearing Froome of any doping charges.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36350528) |
Date: July 2nd, 2018 2:56 PM Author: disturbing gay wizard
*sprints into thread* *screams "doper!" at op and throws a glass of urine at him*
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36351204)
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 3:07 PM Author: disturbing gay wizard
I wish it were easy to watch the Giro. If it had been on NBCsports I would've loved watching it.
I also love watching the women fall on their asses every year in the ladies tour de france. although i think they've done away with that now, unfortunately. it was very lulzy.
do you ride too, or just like to watch?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36351298) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 3:16 PM Author: Smoky really tough guy
They still have la course (the womens event, but it's like a 2 or 3 stage race now).
You can stream the giro online, but it's a total pain in the ass. But the Vuelta de Espana is available on NBC's online package. For like $50 for the year you can stream the Tour, the Vuelta, the world championship (I think) and a bunch of the spring one day classics. The year for the new pass just started, so I'd consider getting it if you like watching this type of stuff.
Yeah, I love to ride. I usually have some sort race on the tv (the Red Bull TV App has the UCI MTB World Cup which is also really fun to watch) when I'm riding my bike on my indoor trainer (which is like 90% of the time when ride).
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36351384) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 3:37 PM Author: Smoky really tough guy
A lot of the classics are in France, Belgium, northern Europe so I think they'll appeal to you in a similar way. And they're more a spectacle because they're going over the cobbles and super rough roads.
Spain is a beautiful country in its own right and has plenty of mountain stages too.
You can also watch the cyclocross events in the fall/winter, which are pretty cool.
I have:
Cervelo S5, I built it up custom, but spends almost all of its time exclusively on my trainer lol
Felt F1x, that is gravel race bike
Surly Crosscheck, its over 10 years old but is still rocking. I just use this for riding around town with the GF.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36351530)
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Date: July 3rd, 2018 10:28 AM Author: Smoky really tough guy
~*~BETTING ODDS~*~
Chris Froome - 7/4
Richie Porte - 19/4
Nairo Quintana - 9/1
Mikel Landa - 11/1
Vincenzo Nibali - 14/1
I'm not sure there is a lot of value in betting on Froome. If you think Froome won't be fresh coming off the Giro or will crash out at some point, I think Quintana or Landa are the best play--they're on the same team though, so you're gonna have to figure out which one is the leader.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36356290)
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Date: July 7th, 2018 1:52 PM Author: Smoky really tough guy
Well bros...the opening stage was FUCKING WILD
The top 3 contenders (Froome, Porte and Quintana) all lost major chunks of time today due crashes in the final 6km.
Can't wait to see what unfolds.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36380819) |
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Date: July 10th, 2018 9:49 AM Author: Smoky really tough guy
ITV's Tour de France podcast is the best one for day-to-day scholarship, imo. It's a bit shambolic, but in an enjoyable way.
I listen to lance's podcast, but he's not very prepared at all and doesn't seem engaged at this point. Also his co-host is a retard.
http://inrng.com/ is a good source for daily previews/breakdowns. The guy that writes the blog is not the best writer, but the information is good. I'm almost tempted to email this bro and offer to help edit his shit for him, because he's really well informed from a cycling perspective. Also velonews is decent.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36396571) |
Date: July 11th, 2018 2:45 PM Author: Smoky really tough guy
Sagan is a beast
Wouldn't be surprised to see him repeat with a stage win tomorrow, too
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36406004) |
Date: July 12th, 2018 9:58 AM Author: Smoky really tough guy
You know I got that stream of the stage fired up at work today brothers. This should be an exciting final 20km. Enjoy now because Friday and Saturday will be group sprints.
Sunday is when things really start to heat up.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36411013) |
Date: July 13th, 2018 12:56 PM Author: Smoky really tough guy
https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167610518303751
Interesting article for you bros. Talks about the aerodynamic effects in a peloton.
Riders in the back of the peloton can experience only 5% of the drag compared to an isolated rider. This means that if the peloton is going 33 mph, the riders at the very back essentially only have to work as hard as if they were riding by themselves at 7-10 mph, according to this study.
I think it might overstate the aero benefits a little bit, but riding in the peloton definitely sucks you along.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36419093) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:59 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal property
would his team going to let someone else besides him win?
who's the favorite at this point?
why cant the guy in the lead maintain it? did they just let him win the stage today?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36448859) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:47 PM Author: Smoky really tough guy
Sky might back Thomas if they feel like he has a better shot of winning. In 2012 Froome was arguably stronger than Wiggins (and even attacked him while Wiggins was in yellow, which is something you basically never do), but Sky still backed Wiggins because the tour was so heavy on time trials and Wiggins was the best time trialer in the world at the time.
I'd say Froome still has the slight edge at this point, with Thomas and Quintana slightly behind.
The guy currently in yellow was in the breakaway so he effectively had a 5 or 6 minute head start on the GC guys in the peloton, but only finished about two minutes ahead of the main guys at the end of the stage--he's a lot slower up the climbs. IIn the next couple stages they will not let him go into the breakaway again and the leaders will all be attacking each other, so they'll going faster than today. There will be no way GVA can stay with them because he just doesn't have the right power to weight ratio.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36449135) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 10:50 AM Author: Smoky really tough guy
lone breakaway rider going for the stage win--not a GC contender, but he is only +2:40 so Sky and Movistar will be motivated to close the gap
group of 3 riders chasing about 4 minutes behind--these guys are mainly focused on catching the lead rider for the stage win and accumulating points for the Polka Dot jersey
Yellow jersey group with the main contenders (Froome, Dumoulin, Nibali, Quintana) is about 4:50 back from the leader on the road--Sky is pushing the pace at the front to tire out the other riders and prevents attacks
They're about to start Alpe D'Huez which is the POTUS of climbs in the Tour and the world. There will be insane crowds on the mountain.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458417) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 5:38 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal property
is this just talk, or does it mean anything?
what is B and P in the standings? bonus and penalty?
https://www.letour.fr/en/rankings
do the bonuses count at the end, or are they built into the standings already?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36461208) |
Date: July 19th, 2018 12:13 PM Author: Smoky really tough guy
ALPE D’HUEZ, France (VN) — This year’s Tour de France is proving too punishing for the peloton’s top sprinters.
A day after Mark Cavendish (Dimension Data) and Marcel Kittel (Katusha-Alpecin) were time-cut, several more marquee sprinters abandoned the Tour en route to Alpe d’Huez on Thursday.
André Greipel (Lotto-Soudal) and two-time Tour stage-winners this year Dylan Groenewegen (LottoNL-Jumbo) and Fernando Gaviria (Quick-Step) abandoned stage 12.
All three pulled off as a dangerous breakaway chugged clear on the brutal three-climb stage across the Alps. With some GC threats in the breakaway group, including Steven Kruijswijk (LottoNL-Jumbo) who started the stage sixth overall, the main pack led by Team Sky set a menacing pace. The peloton fractured early and several top names pulled the plug on their respective 2018 Tour.
The high-profile abandons have immediate implications.
First, Gaviria’s exit all but assures Peter Sagan (Bora-Hansgrohe) a record-tying sixth green jersey if he makes it to Paris. Gaviria was the only rider challenging Sagan up to now.
Second, the departures mean more chances for the sprinters still in the race for the three sprint-likely stages remaining in the Tour.
Other riders to abandon include Tony Gallopin, a key helper to Romain Bardet, who only has four Ag2r La Mondiale teammates left in the race.
EF-Drapac’s Rigoberto Urán, second overall last year, also did not start in the wake of heavy injuries from his crash in stage 9 on the cobblestones.
Greipel’s Lotto-Soudal teammate Marcel Sieberg is also out, as is another lead-out man, Katusha-Alpecin’s Rick Zabel, who was granted clemency by the race jury on Wednesday after finishing mere seconds after the day’s time cut.
https://www.velonews.com/2018/07/tour-de-france/sprinters-keep-suffering-in-alps-as-gaviria-groenewegen-abandon_472654
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458938) |
Date: July 21st, 2018 11:56 PM Author: Fiercely-loyal property
i'm confused. froome and thomas were 20 mins behind and like in 30th place today. yet they are still leading?
btw, is thomas going to win this?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36473427) |
Date: July 23rd, 2018 10:21 AM Author: Smoky really tough guy
Here are some stats for the rest day today.
Currently, Geraint Thomas leads with Chris Froome 1:39 behind and Tom Domoulin 1:50 behind.
There are three mountain stages coming up, so surely these standings will change, but I'm more concerned about the time trial on Saturday.
Domoulin is the current world champion in the individual time trial and Froome is equally world class. Looking back at the time trial results for these three riders over the last few years, it's not inconceivable that Thomas concede up to 2 minutes against both of these guys.
Geraint Thomas vs Tom Domoulin
2016 Tour de Romandie (15km): Domoulin beat Thomas by 59 seconds
2016 Tour de France, Stage 13 (37km): Domoulin beat Thomas by 2 minutes
2016 Tour de France, Stage Stage 18 (17km): Domoulin beat Thomas by 1:30
2016 Olympics (54km): Domoulin beat Thomas by 1:20
2017 Giro de Italia (39km): Domoulin beat Thomas by 49 seconds.
Thomas v. Froome:
2016 Tour de Romandie (15km): Froome beat Thomas by 50 seconds
2016 Tour de France, Stage 13 (37km): Froome beat Thomas by 57 seconds
2016 Tour de France, Stage Stage 18 (17km): Froome beat Thomas by 2:09
2016 Olympics (54km): Froome beat Thomas by 1:35
2017 Tour de France, Stage 1 (17km) Thomas beat Froome by 12 seconds
2018 Tirreno-Adriatico, Stage 7 (10km): Froome beat Thomas by 3 seconds
I'm not going to type out all of the Froome v. Domoulin results, but the gap between Froome and Domoulin is closer, but Domoulin has the edge. Domoulin beat Froome in both the 2016 Olympics and 2017 World Championships--both events in which these two riders were going 100%.
You can't read too much into some of these results because for some of these races the riders might not have been motivated to ride as fast as possible, especially Froome when he already had a large lead late in a grand tour.
In any case, Froome and Thomas will need to stay aggressive in this final week to give themselves some breathing room heading into the final TT.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36479985) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:17 PM Author: Smoky really tough guy
Tuesday and Wednesday are both mountain stages and will be full of attacks. Wednesday is super short with a summit finish and they're using a grid start, so Froome and Thomas could potentially be isolated from their teammates.
Thursday is a sprint stage.
Friday is the final mountain stage and Saturday is the time trial.
I would also say Sunday is "worth watching" just because of the spectacle of racing on the Champs-Élysées.
The third week is when the race for GC really "starts".
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36480766) |
Date: July 25th, 2018 11:06 AM Author: Smoky really tough guy
Still a long way to go on this climb. Quintana sitting on Valverde's wheel about a minute back from the leader. Sky still has a couple domestiques in their group and look content to sit and push the pace for the moment.
I think Quintana is more concerned with copping a stage win rather than moving up in the GC.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36493187) |
Date: July 28th, 2018 10:25 AM Author: Smoky really tough guy
Time trial is going down now.
Froome on the road in the fight of his life for the podium.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36512557) |
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Date: July 28th, 2018 11:26 AM Author: Smoky really tough guy
Domoulin wins the stage, nipping Froome by a second!
Final podium:
1. Thomas
2. Domoulin
3. Froome
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36512815) |
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Date: July 28th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: Arrogant scourge upon the earth associate
Thomas is BOOMlike, in that u can still make it when ur older than u ought to be, have a full head of hair, and u have paid ur dues.
Froome should fade way, after this year.
The Flying Dutchman impressed me, and he could win it all next year with a better team.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36513219)
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