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***OFFICIAL 2018 TOUR DE FRANCE DISCUSSION THREAD***
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Date: June 28th, 2018 11:35 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Fellas, we are just over a week away from the 105th edition of the TOUR DE FRANCE.
The first week looks like an utter snooze fest, with the highlights being the team time trial in Stage 3 and some rollers on Stage 5 that set up for Sagan or someone in the breakaway to take the stage.
The last 2 weeks will have some pretty epic stages: Stage 9: Cobbles Stage 10: Brutal mountain stage with three Category 1 climbs and one HC climb Stage 11: short stage with a summit finish, so the GC contenders will be attacking from the very start Stage 12: Two HC climbs and a summit finish at ALPE D'HUEZ. Everyone will be gunning for this one Stage 17: Another super short stage with a summit finish. This will be interesting because for the first time ever they're employing a grid start based on overall standings. Froome won't have the whole sky train around to save him on this stage. Stage 20: individual time trial.
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 1:31 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Some crazy shit happened this weekend.
The French losers tried to pull some shady shit by banning Froome at the last minute--knowing that the French court system wouldn't do anything about it within the week.
This ultimately forced UCI and WADA's hand and they ended up clearing Froome of any doping charges. |
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 2:56 PM Author: galvanic church building *sprints into thread* *screams "doper!" at op and throws a glass of urine at him*
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 2:57 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home How dare you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36351211) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 2:59 PM Author: galvanic church building just kidding, brother. i love watching le tour. thank you for your preview of coming attractions.
Who do you think will win this year? |
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 3:01 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Froome all the way. In all honesty, Sky are the best at cheating.
Froome looked pretty mediocre in the Giro, but put together probably the single greatest one day performance in modern cycling to win the Giro. He went solo from 80k and beat all of his rivals--that's just not done. I'm guessing that Froome held back in the first two weeks of the Giro because he knew he was going to attempt the double. |
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 3:07 PM Author: galvanic church building I wish it were easy to watch the Giro. If it had been on NBCsports I would've loved watching it.
I also love watching the women fall on their asses every year in the ladies tour de france. although i think they've done away with that now, unfortunately. it was very lulzy.
do you ride too, or just like to watch? |
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 3:16 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home They still have la course (the womens event, but it's like a 2 or 3 stage race now).
You can stream the giro online, but it's a total pain in the ass. But the Vuelta de Espana is available on NBC's online package. For like $50 for the year you can stream the Tour, the Vuelta, the world championship (I think) and a bunch of the spring one day classics. The year for the new pass just started, so I'd consider getting it if you like watching this type of stuff.
Yeah, I love to ride. I usually have some sort race on the tv (the Red Bull TV App has the UCI MTB World Cup which is also really fun to watch) when I'm riding my bike on my indoor trainer (which is like 90% of the time when ride). |
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 3:30 PM Author: galvanic church building Are the other events as fun to watch? (I guess I mean are they produced as nicely/extensively?---a big part of the appeal for me is getting to look at interesting shit in France).
Also, what kind of bike do you ride? |
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 3:37 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home A lot of the classics are in France, Belgium, northern Europe so I think they'll appeal to you in a similar way. And they're more a spectacle because they're going over the cobbles and super rough roads. Spain is a beautiful country in its own right and has plenty of mountain stages too.
You can also watch the cyclocross events in the fall/winter, which are pretty cool.
I have: Cervelo S5, I built it up custom, but spends almost all of its time exclusively on my trainer lol Felt F1x, that is gravel race bike Surly Crosscheck, its over 10 years old but is still rocking. I just use this for riding around town with the GF.
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 3:48 PM Author: galvanic church building Would you recommend the Surly for someone who just rides around at a park? I'm looking for something that can fit a big enough tire to handle some gravel towpath rides too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36351624) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 3:53 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home yeah, sure. If you're just riding recreationally, you just want a frame that can accommodate big tires. You'll also want to make sure whatever you get comes with tubeless tires (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36351656) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 4:03 PM Author: galvanic church building ty, brother. if i just buy the frame can i reuse the components from my current bike? it's a trek from the late 80's. i don't really care about having brifters and am happy with downtube shifting. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36351749) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 4:07 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home likely not much. I'm guessing the surly is probably disc brake now so not much of what you have will cross over. Also your old components won't be competitive with any new wheels. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36351783) |
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Date: July 6th, 2018 10:58 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home I checked and it's not disc specific btw. However, you can get a brand new 105 group set for like $300 online. That's going to be so much better than what you have now. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36374313) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:21 AM Author: galvanic church building ty, brother. should i just upgrade the components on the bike i have now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36410859) |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:56 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home what kind of bike do you have now? How much do you ride/plan to ride?
What kind of terrain? |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:14 AM Author: galvanic church building I basically never get to ride, unfortunately. But when I do (like a couple times a month) I ride either an old trek sport touring model with 27 1 3/8 tires) or an old trek 660 (with 700c x 23 tires). Both are steel bikes from the mid to late 80's.
I mainly ride on a pretty flat paved path that's about 20 miles in length. |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:28 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home probably not worth it then (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458657) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:34 AM Author: galvanic church building ty, brother. do you have an opinion about rivendell bikes? someone told me they're good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458691) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:50 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home They look pretty nice to me. To be honest, I don't have a lot of experience with steel bikes so I can't really say what's good. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458784) |
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Date: July 2nd, 2018 3:18 PM Author: electric gas station *douses thread with Truvada* (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36351394) |
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Date: July 3rd, 2018 10:28 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home ~*~BETTING ODDS~*~
Chris Froome - 7/4
Richie Porte - 19/4
Nairo Quintana - 9/1
Mikel Landa - 11/1
Vincenzo Nibali - 14/1
I'm not sure there is a lot of value in betting on Froome. If you think Froome won't be fresh coming off the Giro or will crash out at some point, I think Quintana or Landa are the best play--they're on the same team though, so you're gonna have to figure out which one is the leader.
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Date: July 4th, 2018 12:15 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Say what you want about Sky and Froome, but the level of detail here is amazing: https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/cycling/44694122 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36363253) |
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Date: July 4th, 2018 1:14 PM Author: provocative swollen scourge upon the earth that’s a crazy low max heartrate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36363514) |
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Date: July 4th, 2018 3:23 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home I think you're talking about his resting heart rate, but yeah that's insane and indicative of how great of shape these guys are in (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36363969) |
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Date: July 6th, 2018 10:54 AM Author: provocative swollen scourge upon the earth his resting hr is crazy low too, but a max of 159 given the type of work they are doing i found amazing (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36374266) |
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Date: July 6th, 2018 10:48 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home pepper your angus for TOMORROW (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36374217) |
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Date: July 7th, 2018 1:52 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Well bros...the opening stage was FUCKING WILD
The top 3 contenders (Froome, Porte and Quintana) all lost major chunks of time today due crashes in the final 6km.
Can't wait to see what unfolds. |
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Date: July 10th, 2018 9:44 AM Author: Insane becky pocket flask aside from lance admstrongs podcast what are some other Tour de France scholarship I should be following to keep up with the tdf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36396551) |
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Date: July 10th, 2018 9:49 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home ITV's Tour de France podcast is the best one for day-to-day scholarship, imo. It's a bit shambolic, but in an enjoyable way.
I listen to lance's podcast, but he's not very prepared at all and doesn't seem engaged at this point. Also his co-host is a retard.
http://inrng.com/ is a good source for daily previews/breakdowns. The guy that writes the blog is not the best writer, but the information is good. I'm almost tempted to email this bro and offer to help edit his shit for him, because he's really well informed from a cycling perspective. Also velonews is decent. |
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Date: July 10th, 2018 9:55 AM Author: Insane becky pocket flask thank you! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36396608) |
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Date: July 10th, 2018 9:50 AM Author: Passionate citrine house potus I've been Watching every morning after getting of work. Love it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36396579) |
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Date: July 10th, 2018 9:52 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home it's great to have on in the background, because there really isn't that much you actually have to pay attention to (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36396592) |
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Date: July 10th, 2018 9:58 AM Author: Passionate citrine house potus I've been falling asleep to it. Still enjoyable though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36396627) |
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Date: July 10th, 2018 10:00 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Tomorrow's stage might be a good one to pay more attention to...looks like it could potentially set up for someone from the breakaway winning (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36396638) |
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Date: July 10th, 2018 10:59 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home dirte, we're about an hour away from the finish today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36397017) |
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Date: July 11th, 2018 2:45 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Sagan is a beast
Wouldn't be surprised to see him repeat with a stage win tomorrow, too |
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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:58 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home You know I got that stream of the stage fired up at work today brothers. This should be an exciting final 20km. Enjoy now because Friday and Saturday will be group sprints.
Sunday is when things really start to heat up. |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 5:56 AM Author: Insane becky pocket flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36417332) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 8:19 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Don't bother watching anything but the last 10 minutes of today's stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36417519) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:22 AM Author: Insane becky pocket flask stream it on iPad on desk all morning. just stop working and pay full attention for the sprint (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36417714) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:35 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home exactly. I just shut my office door and turn up the volume for the last 10km (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36417782) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:22 AM Author: lemon lay goyim working from home wif DAT TOUR on YNY (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36417718) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:36 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Make sure you catch Sunday's stage, brother. It's going to be a big one. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36417786) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:38 AM Author: lemon lay goyim I basically just watch it for the pastoral french countryside tbh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36417798) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:39 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home http://cdn2.cyclist.co.uk/sites/cyclist/files/2017/04/paris_roubaix_201728.jpg
dem cobbles bro |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 10:29 AM Author: Insane becky pocket flask (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36418016) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 10:31 AM Author: Infuriating Stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36418028) |
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Date: July 13th, 2018 12:56 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S0167610518303751
Interesting article for you bros. Talks about the aerodynamic effects in a peloton.
Riders in the back of the peloton can experience only 5% of the drag compared to an isolated rider. This means that if the peloton is going 33 mph, the riders at the very back essentially only have to work as hard as if they were riding by themselves at 7-10 mph, according to this study.
I think it might overstate the aero benefits a little bit, but riding in the peloton definitely sucks you along. |
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Date: July 14th, 2018 5:24 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home REMINDER: Tomorrow is a stage you need to watch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36426872) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 8:50 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36429544) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 5:43 PM Author: lemon lay goyim some 180 cobblestone wipeouts today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36432094) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 5:44 PM Author: Infuriating Stage faggot fromme is 1 min 42 behind. is he in position to win? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36432101) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 6:29 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Yeah, he's pretty much the best positioned GC rider at the moment (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36432335) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 6:55 PM Author: lemon lay goyim global capitalist rider? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36432467) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 6:57 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home General classification. Aka the guys in contention to actually win. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36432478) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 6:59 PM Author: Infuriating Stage is everyone ahead of him a sprinter (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36432488) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 7:01 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Not necessarily sprinters, but non-climbers. Thomas (about a minute ahead), who is also on Sky, would be a serious contender if he were on any other team, but he's riding for Froome still.
The rest of the contenders are all within a few seconds either way of Froome. |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 5:44 PM Author: Infuriating Stage http://www.xoxohth.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026297&mc=1&forum_id=2 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36432104) |
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Date: July 15th, 2018 6:30 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Pussyfaggot of team BMC, Richie Porte, faked a collarbone fracture to get out of the race today (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36432343) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:54 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Today and the next two days would all be good stages to watch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36443482) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 2:43 PM Author: Infuriating Stage pls explain today's results. is froome faggot still in good position? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36445440) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:27 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Yeah he's fine. The biggest threat is from his teammate, actually. They won't let the guy currently in the lead in a breakaway again and he'll lose big time the next two days. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36448696) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:59 PM Author: Infuriating Stage would his team going to let someone else besides him win?
who's the favorite at this point?
why cant the guy in the lead maintain it? did they just let him win the stage today? |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:47 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Sky might back Thomas if they feel like he has a better shot of winning. In 2012 Froome was arguably stronger than Wiggins (and even attacked him while Wiggins was in yellow, which is something you basically never do), but Sky still backed Wiggins because the tour was so heavy on time trials and Wiggins was the best time trialer in the world at the time.
I'd say Froome still has the slight edge at this point, with Thomas and Quintana slightly behind.
The guy currently in yellow was in the breakaway so he effectively had a 5 or 6 minute head start on the GC guys in the peloton, but only finished about two minutes ahead of the main guys at the end of the stage--he's a lot slower up the climbs. IIn the next couple stages they will not let him go into the breakaway again and the leaders will all be attacking each other, so they'll going faster than today. There will be no way GVA can stay with them because he just doesn't have the right power to weight ratio. |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:41 PM Author: Infuriating Stage ty for this scholarship (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36449473) |
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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:53 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home The current yellow jersey said before today's stage that he wasn't going to try and defend it again today. So expect to see Thomas from Sky in the jersey at the end of the day. That should complicate matters a bit for Sky. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36450982) |
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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:54 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Wow things are going to get really interesting now with Sky. Their tactics tomorrow should make it clear who they consider the leader going forward. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36451844) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 10:16 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Now is the time to tune in today. They're just about to hit the final climb of the day (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458208) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 10:37 AM Author: Infuriating Stage link to free stream? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458307) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 10:39 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home I pay $50/year for NBC Sports Gold so I can't help you there. I'm sure it's out there somewhere. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458320) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 10:41 AM Author: Infuriating Stage i have a directv login/password. that doesnt seem to work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458339) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 10:41 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home It should be live on nbcsn right now. Can you just stream the channel online?
The direct tv password would work for the gold stream anyway. I just pay for that to avoid the TTT nbc commentary. |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 10:44 AM Author: Infuriating Stage found a stream here -- http://live.drakulawidget.com/streamvideo10/cycling-vs-tour-de-france-live-stream-4688534.html
describe what's going on now pls. |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 10:50 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home lone breakaway rider going for the stage win--not a GC contender, but he is only +2:40 so Sky and Movistar will be motivated to close the gap group of 3 riders chasing about 4 minutes behind--these guys are mainly focused on catching the lead rider for the stage win and accumulating points for the Polka Dot jersey Yellow jersey group with the main contenders (Froome, Dumoulin, Nibali, Quintana) is about 4:50 back from the leader on the road--Sky is pushing the pace at the front to tire out the other riders and prevents attacks
They're about to start Alpe D'Huez which is the POTUS of climbs in the Tour and the world. There will be insane crowds on the mountain. |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 10:54 AM Author: Infuriating Stage why isnt the beakaway guy a condender for the GC?
so sky needs to just stay in the pack? |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:01 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home No, Sky's domestiques need to push the pace on the climb or the GC guys will attack Froome and Thomas. Breakaway guy can put in a good effort in the mountains for one or two days, but can't consistently perform at a high enough level over 3 weeks to be a contender. Also, he will lose a lot of time on the time trial. There are literally like 10 people in the world with the right genetics to (a) consistently climb well for 3 weeks (have a very high power to weight ratio) and (b) be able to also put out enough watts on a time trial to compete in a grand tour |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 10:56 AM Author: Infuriating Stage they're climbing up that zig zag mountain? how much time left in the stage? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458455) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:02 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home probably like 45 minutes, I think. 21 hairpin turns up the mountain. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458484) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 10:47 AM Author: Infuriating Stage so yesterday, thomas won the stage by 20 seconds over faggot froome? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458387) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 10:53 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home yes, but that's not really that much in the grand scheme of things. You have to figure that Froome will gain at least a minute on Thomas in the final time trial. Thomas has came out and said that effectively Froome is still the leader--also all of the brit media members that are plugged into Team Sky think Froome is the leader still. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458435) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 10:58 AM Author: Infuriating Stage is the time trial the last stage on sunday that's ceremonial in paris, or is it the day before? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458461) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:02 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home the time trial is Saturday. Sunday is the processional stage that culminates on the champs (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458489) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:11 AM Author: Infuriating Stage how much of a faggot is thomas? is he more likeable than froome? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458542) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:12 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Thomas is a chill welsh bloke. Froome is fine, imo. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458548) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:05 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home The group of 3 were caught. I really don't see the lone breakaway rider surviving. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458509) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:06 AM Author: Infuriating Stage a bunch of guys are dropping out of the pack? cant handle the pace? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458517) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:09 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Yeah, Sky's helpers are basically going to push as hard as they can until its just the main GC guys left. Then the real GC battle will start. My prediction is that Dumoulin will attack and Froome covers and counter attacks for the win.
Also they already cut down on Kruijswijk's lead by like a minute and a half. |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:11 AM Author: Infuriating Stage the stage leader leads by 3.5 mins.. will he get caught? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458538) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:12 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Yeah I think so. Lead is down to like 3:15 and falling. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458556) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:15 AM Author: Infuriating Stage the main group only has like 10 guys with 3 teams in it? those are all the GC contenders? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458574) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:17 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Yes, except there is one sky rider in there that is a domestique (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458583) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:33 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home replace Dumoulin with Bardet and I was right (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458685) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:35 AM Author: Infuriating Stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458695) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:16 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Oh shit, Quintana is going. Lets see if he can make something stick. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458580) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:21 AM Author: Infuriating Stage did he go back to the pack now? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458620) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:24 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home yep, and now he's getting dropped (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458634) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:26 AM Author: Infuriating Stage who is the guy 10 seconds ahead of the group bardet? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458642) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:27 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Yeah, see below. Bardet. He's not a great TT guy so he needs to get a bigger advantage in the mountains. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458649) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:20 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home They just put up a stat on my stream. The yellow jersey group is going 20 kph right now and the leader on the road is going 11 kph. lol this guy is done here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458602) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:25 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home The guy who attack in the blue, white and brown jersey (Bardet) got third last year. He's a guy that Froome and the other GC guys will be worried about. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458641) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:26 AM Author: Infuriating Stage winning this stage by 10 seconds while impressive doesnt help him in the GC standings much tho?? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458646) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:28 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home He's hoping that the other guys crack and he can get a bigger lead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458653) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:30 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Also just winning on Alpe D'Huez is a huge accomplishment, especially for a French guy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458666) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:31 AM Author: Infuriating Stage there was an american flag guy ljl (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458669) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:31 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Thomas is working for Froome. Froome is yellow jersey #5 secure. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458675) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:32 AM Author: Infuriating Stage lance "chris" froome (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458681) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:34 AM Author: Infuriating Stage froome passed that french guy? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458687) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:35 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home yes, but the re-grouped. I spoke too soon. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458702) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:37 AM Author: Infuriating Stage so it's bardet and 3 sky guys? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458707) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:38 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home No Dumoulin is on sunweb, not Sky. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458712) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:39 AM Author: Infuriating Stage o, jerseys looked smilarly white (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458719) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:39 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home holy shit froome might be done here... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458720) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:41 AM Author: Infuriating Stage spoke too soon? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458731) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:43 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home There won't be any significant time gaps between any of these guys in the lead group.
Froome came on really strong in the third week of the Giro, so maybe that's what he's targeting here too |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:45 AM Author: Infuriating Stage all that drama for a 5-way tie? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458753) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:46 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home haha yeah, they still have the Pyrenees next week to sort everything out. Shit was exciting though. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458761) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:48 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Thomas: "I'm still riding for Froome" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36458774) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 5:38 PM Author: Infuriating Stage is this just talk, or does it mean anything?
what is B and P in the standings? bonus and penalty?
https://www.letour.fr/en/rankings
do the bonuses count at the end, or are they built into the standings already? |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 5:44 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home I think it means something.
Yes, bonus and penalty. You get bonus seconds for wins and built in already. |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:13 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home ALPE D’HUEZ, France (VN) — This year’s Tour de France is proving too punishing for the peloton’s top sprinters.
A day after Mark Cavendish (Dimension Data) and Marcel Kittel (Katusha-Alpecin) were time-cut, several more marquee sprinters abandoned the Tour en route to Alpe d’Huez on Thursday.
André Greipel (Lotto-Soudal) and two-time Tour stage-winners this year Dylan Groenewegen (LottoNL-Jumbo) and Fernando Gaviria (Quick-Step) abandoned stage 12.
All three pulled off as a dangerous breakaway chugged clear on the brutal three-climb stage across the Alps. With some GC threats in the breakaway group, including Steven Kruijswijk (LottoNL-Jumbo) who started the stage sixth overall, the main pack led by Team Sky set a menacing pace. The peloton fractured early and several top names pulled the plug on their respective 2018 Tour.
The high-profile abandons have immediate implications.
First, Gaviria’s exit all but assures Peter Sagan (Bora-Hansgrohe) a record-tying sixth green jersey if he makes it to Paris. Gaviria was the only rider challenging Sagan up to now.
Second, the departures mean more chances for the sprinters still in the race for the three sprint-likely stages remaining in the Tour.
Other riders to abandon include Tony Gallopin, a key helper to Romain Bardet, who only has four Ag2r La Mondiale teammates left in the race.
EF-Drapac’s Rigoberto Urán, second overall last year, also did not start in the wake of heavy injuries from his crash in stage 9 on the cobblestones.
Greipel’s Lotto-Soudal teammate Marcel Sieberg is also out, as is another lead-out man, Katusha-Alpecin’s Rick Zabel, who was granted clemency by the race jury on Wednesday after finishing mere seconds after the day’s time cut.
https://www.velonews.com/2018/07/tour-de-france/sprinters-keep-suffering-in-alps-as-gaviria-groenewegen-abandon_472654 |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 5:36 PM Author: Infuriating Stage people are time-cut? not everyone can limp through the finish line? why not? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36461189) |
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Date: July 19th, 2018 5:43 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home because the Tour de France is not for little bitches. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36461255) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:57 PM Author: mind-boggling blue dilemma alpha This is a race, not a retarded participation event. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36470925) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:57 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36470930) |
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Date: July 20th, 2018 11:35 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home lol so Sagan is just going to win every sprint stage for the rest of the tour because every other sprinter got time cut (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36465202) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:21 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home LJL at MovisTTTar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36470744) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:56 PM Author: Infuriating Stage i'm confused. froome and thomas were 20 mins behind and like in 30th place today. yet they are still leading?
btw, is thomas going to win this? |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:03 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home All the guys that finished in front of them yesterday had already lost like an hour of time on the leaders before that stage
I still think that Sky is riding for Froome, but if he has a bad day then they'll switch to Thomas. I still think Froome and Thomas need to work together to put more time into Domoulin because Domoulin is such a strong time trialist |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 4:33 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Team Sky rider booted from tour for punching another rider: https://twitter.com/toutlesport/status/1021097869292470272 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36475998) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 5:07 PM Author: Infuriating Stage did he deserve it? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36476203) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 5:09 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home probably shouldn't punch people while riding bikes, so yes
This guy has done this before. Word is that Sky is going to tear up his contract. |
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Date: July 23rd, 2018 10:21 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Here are some stats for the rest day today.
Currently, Geraint Thomas leads with Chris Froome 1:39 behind and Tom Domoulin 1:50 behind.
There are three mountain stages coming up, so surely these standings will change, but I'm more concerned about the time trial on Saturday.
Domoulin is the current world champion in the individual time trial and Froome is equally world class. Looking back at the time trial results for these three riders over the last few years, it's not inconceivable that Thomas concede up to 2 minutes against both of these guys.
Geraint Thomas vs Tom Domoulin 2016 Tour de Romandie (15km): Domoulin beat Thomas by 59 seconds 2016 Tour de France, Stage 13 (37km): Domoulin beat Thomas by 2 minutes 2016 Tour de France, Stage Stage 18 (17km): Domoulin beat Thomas by 1:30 2016 Olympics (54km): Domoulin beat Thomas by 1:20 2017 Giro de Italia (39km): Domoulin beat Thomas by 49 seconds.
Thomas v. Froome: 2016 Tour de Romandie (15km): Froome beat Thomas by 50 seconds 2016 Tour de France, Stage 13 (37km): Froome beat Thomas by 57 seconds 2016 Tour de France, Stage Stage 18 (17km): Froome beat Thomas by 2:09 2016 Olympics (54km): Froome beat Thomas by 1:35 2017 Tour de France, Stage 1 (17km) Thomas beat Froome by 12 seconds 2018 Tirreno-Adriatico, Stage 7 (10km): Froome beat Thomas by 3 seconds
I'm not going to type out all of the Froome v. Domoulin results, but the gap between Froome and Domoulin is closer, but Domoulin has the edge. Domoulin beat Froome in both the 2016 Olympics and 2017 World Championships--both events in which these two riders were going 100%.
You can't read too much into some of these results because for some of these races the riders might not have been motivated to ride as fast as possible, especially Froome when he already had a large lead late in a grand tour.
In any case, Froome and Thomas will need to stay aggressive in this final week to give themselves some breathing room heading into the final TT. |
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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:10 PM Author: Infuriating Stage how many stages are left that are worth anything -- 3 mountain and one TT? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36480719) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:17 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Tuesday and Wednesday are both mountain stages and will be full of attacks. Wednesday is super short with a summit finish and they're using a grid start, so Froome and Thomas could potentially be isolated from their teammates.
Thursday is a sprint stage.
Friday is the final mountain stage and Saturday is the time trial.
I would also say Sunday is "worth watching" just because of the spectacle of racing on the Champs-Élysées.
The third week is when the race for GC really "starts". |
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Date: July 24th, 2018 6:57 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home https://twitter.com/cyclingnewsfeed/status/1021709414334652416?s=21
Tear gas deployed on the route to break up protests! |
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Date: July 24th, 2018 11:43 AM Author: Infuriating Stage 180 pics: https://www.thesun.co.uk/sport/cycling/6851556/tour-de-france-strike-farmers-tear-gas/ (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36486969) |
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Date: July 24th, 2018 11:51 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home I'm pro-farmers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36487023) |
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Date: July 24th, 2018 11:13 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Could be some drama at the finish. Pretty tricky descent into the finish line on today's stage. The leaders are scheduled to finish in about 15 minutes if you want to tune in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36486794) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 10:16 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Attacks are starting. Now is the time to tune in to today's pivotal stage if you aren't already. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36492813) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 10:55 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Quintana finally got off his ass and is attempting to bridge up to his teammate Alejandro Valverde
Also Froome has flown the coop! Lets see if Thomas can respond. |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 10:57 AM Author: Infuriating Stage what happened to yesterday's stage? did it just not finish? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36493118) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 10:58 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home No, they finished. Just took a break to get the pepper spray out of the rider's eyese (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36493129) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 11:05 AM Author: Infuriating Stage did the pepper spray incident change anything? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36493177) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 11:07 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home No, it was very early in the stage and they just restarted the race after it was all cleared up. Definitely no impact on the outcome. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36493192) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 11:06 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Still a long way to go on this climb. Quintana sitting on Valverde's wheel about a minute back from the leader. Sky still has a couple domestiques in their group and look content to sit and push the pace for the moment.
I think Quintana is more concerned with copping a stage win rather than moving up in the GC. |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 11:21 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Bardet is dropped. I can't tell if Froome is about to get dropped or if he is marking Domoulin and waiting for him to attack. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36493281) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 11:32 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home FROOME IN THE FIGHT OF HIS LIFE AGAINST GRAVITY AT THE MOMENT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36493343) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 11:32 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home DOMOULIN IS GOING AND I DON'T THINK FROOME CAN MATCH IT (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36493352) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 11:35 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Froome is utterly done here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36493367) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 11:41 AM Author: Shivering kitchen half-breed Needs some help from Dr Floyd Landis. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36493415) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 11:44 AM Author: Infuriating Stage lance "floyd" landis (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36493436) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 11:45 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Floyd is in the CBD game now
https://floydsofleadville.com/ |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 2:04 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home https://twitter.com/inrng/status/1022178534608044033?s=21
lol holy shit |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 2:25 PM Author: lemon lay goyim lmao at this lanky twink (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36494394) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 2:29 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home just lol at some french Paul Blart knocking him off his bike after the race (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36494430) |
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Date: July 25th, 2018 2:52 PM Author: Infuriating Stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36494594) |
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Date: July 26th, 2018 4:30 AM Author: mind-boggling blue dilemma alpha (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36498700) |
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Date: July 26th, 2018 9:38 AM Author: Infuriating Stage this isnt live (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36499404) |
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Date: July 26th, 2018 9:58 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home as DBG said, this isn't live. Also if you aren't a brokeboi you can just pay $50 and get a year's worth of cycling streaming through NBCSports Gold (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36499492) |
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Date: July 27th, 2018 7:04 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home well this is it. Last mountain stage. If Thomas can stay with Domoulin and not implode then he's likely your overall winner. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36506030) |
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Date: July 27th, 2018 7:39 AM Author: Shivering kitchen half-breed Don’t count out Froome if he gets asthma meds back to the correct levels. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36506083) |
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Date: July 27th, 2018 7:42 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Thomas is taking whatever meds Froome is on (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36506089) |
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Date: July 27th, 2018 8:26 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home The biggest drama of the day is probably whether Sagan is going to get time cut. He had a big crash a couple days back and is really riding the struggle bus today. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36506185) |
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Date: July 28th, 2018 10:25 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Time trial is going down now.
Froome on the road in the fight of his life for the podium. |
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Date: July 28th, 2018 11:26 AM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Domoulin wins the stage, nipping Froome by a second! Final podium: 1. Thomas 2. Domoulin 3. Froome |
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Date: July 28th, 2018 11:43 AM Author: Aphrodisiac harsh people who are hurt principal's office terrific day of 3 pure class riders (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36512861) |
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Date: July 28th, 2018 1:24 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Agreed. Have to think G would have been right there for the win if he wasn't protecting yellow at the end.
What do you think? Thomas goes for the Giro and Vuelta next year and Froome goes for 5? |
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Date: July 28th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: Aphrodisiac harsh people who are hurt principal's office Thomas is BOOMlike, in that u can still make it when ur older than u ought to be, have a full head of hair, and u have paid ur dues.
Froome should fade way, after this year.
The Flying Dutchman impressed me, and he could win it all next year with a better team.
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Date: July 28th, 2018 2:02 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Froome would have been fine if he hadn't rode the Giro first. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36513338) |
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Date: July 28th, 2018 2:04 PM Author: Aphrodisiac harsh people who are hurt principal's office Froome just aint all that pretty a rider, and he always lacked that instant acceleration. But he was the champ, in spite of being hated on by the fans all these years. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36513352) |
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Date: July 28th, 2018 7:29 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home That's all true, but he has a big engine and is a great time trailer, which is what you need to win. He's not punchy but he can ride away from guys when he's in top form. His 80km attack in the Giro this year was an all-timer. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36514478) |
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Date: July 28th, 2018 7:42 PM Author: Aphrodisiac harsh people who are hurt principal's office Froome is undeniably methodical and tenacious, but not sexxy, we need athleticism as in steep descents and tight maneuvering on turns or flat out turbo jets for breakaway speed to love a racer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36514525) |
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Date: July 29th, 2018 9:22 PM Author: Honey-headed Dragon Nursing Home Welp, this concludes another year of cycling chat. Maybe I'll live blog the Vuelta and World Champs too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4012917&forum_id=2#36519634) |