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NYT Ed Board: TRUMP got from NATO everything Obama ever asked for

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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: DrakeMallard (Let's get dangerous)

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/12/opinion/editorials/trump-nato-obama.html

Trump Got From NATO Everything Obama Ever Asked For

But alliance members leave Brussels bruised and confused.

July 12, 2018

By The Editorial Board

The editorial board represents the opinions of the board, its editor and the publisher. It is separate from the newsroom and the Op-Ed section.

President Trump walking off stage after speaking to reporters at the end of the NATO summit.Doug Mills/The New York Times

Now that the smoke has cleared from the NATO summit meeting, the most tangible result is apparent: President Trump advanced President Barack Obamaís initiative to keep the allies on track to shoulder a more equitable share of NATOís costs. Mr. Trump even signed on to a tough statement directed at Russia. For once he saw eye to eye with his predecessor.

Yet whether Mr. Trump himself is clear about the strategy heís pursuing, or whether he in fact has one, remains as mysterious as ever.

Mr. Obama persuaded NATO leaders to increase their military spending at a meeting in Wales in 2014, after a newly aggressive Russia invaded Ukraine. Back then, alliance members pledged to work toward raising spending levels to 2 percent of their gross domestic products by 2024. All 29 allies have begun to increase their military budgets in real terms, and two-thirds of them have plans to reach the 2 percent target by 2024. And they reaffirmed their ďunwavering commitmentĒ to these targets in the communiqué issued at the end of the two-day summit in Brussels this week.

Of course, two days of gratuitous and self-defeating Trump bombast and threats preceded this resolution.

The president publicly browbeat and insulted allies as deadbeats taking advantage of American generosity. He then raised the ante, demanding that they meet the 2 percent target ó itís a target, not some specific legal obligation ó by January and then go on to raise spending to 4 percent of G.D.P. Why that much? What strategic objective, what threats to the alliance, is Mr. Trump worried about? He didn't say.

Since he came into office, Mr. Trumpís urging has gotten some allies to accelerate spending increases. The response to his latest remonstrations, though, was mainly bafflement. Even after a military spending increase under President Trump, American military spending is only 3.2 percent of G.D.P. this year. Whatís more, itís expected to fall to 2.8 percent in 2024, leaving it unclear as to how even the United States would meet the 4 percent figure.

As Mr. Trump, and Mr. Obama before him, have argued, Europe can do more to help itself. The allies rely too heavily on the Americans to transport troops and equipment, for instance, and the fact that France ran out of bombs during the 2011 Libya operation demonstrated a crucial weakness. There may be other shortcomings, too ó NATO is not transparent with its data.

Greater spending by American allies might mean the United States could lower its own spending and bring thousands of troops home. Mr. Trump didnít make that argument, but he has often talked about withdrawing forces and closing bases, whether in Germany or Syria or somewhere else.

So would the president then push for cuts in the Pentagon budget, which now stands at roughly $700 billion, more than the next eight countries in the world spend together, and use it for, say, badly needed infrastructure? Donít bet on it. Mr. Trump has relentlessly pushed for a bigger military, seemingly mesmerized by the flashy hardware and the show of hard power that it projects.

Even so, the spending metric is a narrow measure of what NATO needs to meet todayís challenges, and it may need to be discarded. One example is Denmark, which has made important contributions to alliance operations in Afghanistan and has sacrificed considerable trade with Russia because of sanctions ó yet spends less than 2 percent of G.D.P., according to a study by the Center for Strategic and International Studies.

Other allies could better advance their own security, and NATOís, by spending more to solve the migration crisis and other problems that have fanned nationalism and authoritarianism, and weakened democratic institutions, especially in Turkey, Hungary and Poland. This trend, encouraged insidiously by Russia, may be the biggest threat, eroding the alliance from within.

Such sensible discussions werenít possible in Brussels, as allies were left instead with angst over Mr. Trumpís hint that he may withdraw from NATO if the military spending targets are not met. He said on Thursday that he could probably withdraw from NATO on his own authority.

This threat seems more in line with Mr. Trumpís broader interests. He has made clear that Russiaís attack on Ukraine and seizure of Crimea are of little matter to him. Heís spoken more warmly of President Vladimir Putin than of any ally, even disputing the Russian leaderís role in undermining the 2016 election.

For these reasons, itís imperative that Congress, which has abdicated to Mr. Trump on many crucial issues, pass immediately legislation prohibiting him from leaving NATO unilaterally. The Senate had to ratify the treaty when America created NATO, and it should block any move to destroy the alliance that has been an anchor of trans-Atlantic stability over seven decades.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024513&forum_id=2#36415673)



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Date: July 12th, 2018 9:45 PM
Author: DrakeMallard (Let's get dangerous)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024513&forum_id=2#36415791)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 8:11 AM
Author: DrakeMallard (Let's get dangerous)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024513&forum_id=2#36417506)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:13 AM
Author: ..,..,..,...,,,...,..,.,,.,..,.,,


"Yet whether Mr. Trump himself is clear about the strategy heís pursuing, or whether he in fact has one, remains as mysterious as ever."

I'm sure Trump's steady march of success is all just random luck by bumbling fool

Actually, Trump is the Columbo of presidents, and that approach is working surprisingly well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024513&forum_id=2#36417675)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:30 AM
Author: A Jurisprudence is Performed



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024513&forum_id=2#36417765)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 2:59 PM
Author: Sir Incelot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024513&forum_id=2#36420029)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:17 AM
Author: michael doodikoff



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024513&forum_id=2#36417691)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:21 AM
Author: ,.,...,..,.,.,:,.:,.,.,:::,...,:,.,.:.:.,:.::,


Obama: Plz respond :-).

Trump: You can't stand to lose some weight. *Cleans cum off his dick with NATO's shirt*

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024513&forum_id=2#36417709)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:29 AM
Author: DrakeMallard (Let's get dangerous)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024513&forum_id=2#36417759)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 1:55 PM
Author: .;:..;:;.:.;.,,,.,.:,.;;,;;;..;,


Libs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024513&forum_id=2#36419529)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: DrakeMallard (Let's get dangerous)



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024513&forum_id=2#36420006)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 2:57 PM
Author: Sir Incelot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4024513&forum_id=2#36420010)