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Do we need immigrants? Y/N

We are slightly below the replacement rate and many of these...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
1764 is more than 1000
self-absorbed talking son of senegal
  07/13/18
You need a man and a woman to make a baby bro, so replacemen...
fighting contagious lodge
  07/13/18
Replacement rate is technically 2.1 children per woman
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
Yes to account for infant mortality etc. Probably higher con...
fighting contagious lodge
  07/13/18
no because 1% of chads fuck 99% of women
self-absorbed talking son of senegal
  07/13/18
Of course we don't lol
Claret medicated boltzmann prole
  07/13/18
Link to plan to pay for SS/Medicare when the worker to retir...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
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marvelous bearded gas station
  07/13/18
Death panels. Gtfo of here with this cucky economist bs.
Claret medicated boltzmann prole
  07/13/18
Medicare for one should be abolished
Transparent territorial turdskin home
  07/13/18
Link to how to sustain a Ponzi Scheme?
fiercely-loyal federal scourge upon the earth stage
  07/13/18
do you actually think we're importing workers who are capabl...
talented kitchen
  07/13/18
Link to me saying that our immigration laws are anything but...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
they don't want to come. even our biggest source of white i...
talented kitchen
  07/13/18
We could change that if there was an easier process to come ...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
This is true. Ideally we should have almost free movement b...
Seedy elite quadroon lettuce
  07/13/18
Agreed, but the UK has WAY too many Indians/Pakis that we do...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
Why don't we find ways to encourage more fertility instead?
Transparent territorial turdskin home
  07/13/18
We should do that, but we still need highly skilled immigran...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
that is a very small number of people per year if you are ta...
Transparent territorial turdskin home
  07/13/18
Why do we need this?
Well-lubricated doobsian goyim
  07/13/18
So we don't become virtual economic slaves to the Chinese an...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
...
marvelous bearded gas station
  07/13/18
Maybe for now, but they have plan to systematically destroy ...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
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marvelous bearded gas station
  07/13/18
Their made in China in 2025 is pretty explicit https://ww...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
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marvelous bearded gas station
  07/13/18
The Chinese aren't creative. But it is not only white Americ...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
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marvelous bearded gas station
  07/13/18
You really think we could just bring in White Americans to t...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
nearly 16% of start-ups in Silicon Valley had an Indian co-f...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
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marvelous bearded gas station
  07/13/18
https://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2016/03/17/study-immigrants-fou...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
Most of these "startups" are just scams to bring i...
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  07/13/18
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  07/13/18
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  07/13/18
Honestly this will never happen given the culture/technology...
fighting contagious lodge
  07/13/18
There could be benefits that encourage fertility - free or d...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
Do we need to be at replacement rate? Can we not allow young...
shivering pervert
  07/13/18
The economic reasons people aren't having kids wouldn't chan...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
False. Immigration makes a lot of areas and the schools less...
Transparent territorial turdskin home
  07/13/18
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fighting contagious lodge
  07/13/18
Non-skills based immigrants is what I am talking about. You ...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
Immigration doesn't affect the economy or people's opportuni...
shivering pervert
  07/13/18
You really think people are not having kids because we have ...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
I think a massive underclass does indeed exacerbate a lot of...
shivering pervert
  07/13/18
Absolutely yes. When the local public schools everywher...
Seedy elite quadroon lettuce
  07/13/18
Looking at the data that is only part of the story. I agree,...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
That "data" is just survey results. People will s...
Seedy elite quadroon lettuce
  07/13/18
I think it would make a difference, but would likely need to...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
people aren't avoiding kids for economic reasons, that's a f...
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  07/13/18
agreed.
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  07/13/18
Cr we're all blown-out selfish hedonists addicted to dopamin...
fighting contagious lodge
  07/13/18
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Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
Couldn't disagree more. Having kids and trying to emulate ev...
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  07/13/18
Hm
fighting contagious lodge
  07/13/18
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Seedy elite quadroon lettuce
  07/13/18
This is spot on. Agree 100%. My personal theory is that w...
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Average house size in 1983 was 1,725 sq ft. Average house si...
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How about you go ahead and spell out the point you think you...
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>> Public schooling alone is a problem most aspiring p...
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  07/13/18
Trying to make this distinction highlights that most claims ...
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  07/13/18
In areas of the country where it's cheaper to have more kids...
Seedy elite quadroon lettuce
  07/13/18
"In areas of the country where it's cheaper to have mor...
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  07/13/18
no
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We dont need them. They can potentially be useful if we are ...
Deep School
  07/13/18
Immigration made this country great, but it was controlled i...
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  07/13/18
CR. I am 100% behind this approach. Don't get people who don...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
America doesn't need "highly educated" and "c...
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  07/13/18
Native English speakers with college degrees from Canada/UK/...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
jfc you don't know how terrible indians are
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I work with Indian engineers. They are awful - but IIT grads...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
not many white people from elsewhere want to immigrate to th...
talented kitchen
  07/13/18
We could change that if we wanted to. If we actively recruit...
Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/13/18
Historically, america had essentially open borders but it wa...
Deep School
  07/13/18
open borders and no GOVERNMENT social services would still b...
talented kitchen
  07/13/18
Yes but we need emigrants more.
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  07/13/18
Send Germany 3/5s of an African American for each ethnic Ger...
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I’d send all pumos for sure.
Swashbuckling Erotic Range Dragon
  07/13/18
No. We have no shortage of people
fiercely-loyal federal scourge upon the earth stage
  07/13/18
Infinite population growth is good for GC and GDP, but not g...
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  07/13/18
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  07/13/18
10,000/yr max. even that is too many. In 1960 we had 150 m...
Lavender locus
  07/13/18
cr. Our fertility rate will naturally rise if we stop bri...
Seedy elite quadroon lettuce
  07/13/18
the truth is, america is overcrowded. the whole "ameri...
talented kitchen
  07/13/18
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Lavender locus
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Seedy elite quadroon lettuce
  07/13/18
Also, the people who say that America has lots of room pay $...
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  07/13/18
You could fit a billion in there, look at all that empty spa...
fighting contagious lodge
  07/13/18
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  07/13/18
There's plenty of space in the red States
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  07/13/18
not every place needs to look like your native bangladesh
Lavender locus
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Without highly educated and hungry immigrants, we'd basicall...
Yellow 180 background story degenerate
  07/13/18
somehow i think we'll manage
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Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface
  07/14/18
sounds like we need to up our intake of thin, attractive 16-...
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  07/13/18
Truth
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  07/13/18
“Replacement rate” is sinister GC speak. We need less people...
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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:28 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

We are slightly below the replacement rate and many of these births are from browns pumping out 5 kids a piece. How many immigrants should we allow in?

https://www.newscientist.com/article/2169119-the-us-isnt-fertile-enough-to-sustain-itself-without-immigrants/

Today, over the lifetimes of every 1000 women, there are around 1764 births – not enough to replace the population.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420372)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: self-absorbed talking son of senegal

1764 is more than 1000

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420381)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:30 PM
Author: fighting contagious lodge

You need a man and a woman to make a baby bro, so replacement rate is 2x

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420393)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:32 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

Replacement rate is technically 2.1 children per woman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420408)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: fighting contagious lodge

Yes to account for infant mortality etc. Probably higher considering how gay everyone is now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420426)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:46 PM
Author: self-absorbed talking son of senegal

no because 1% of chads fuck 99% of women

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420579)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:31 PM
Author: Claret medicated boltzmann prole

Of course we don't lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420399)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

Link to plan to pay for SS/Medicare when the worker to retiree ratio is damn near 1 to 1? Not the best way to build a dynamic economy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420421)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:34 PM
Author: marvelous bearded gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420440)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:35 PM
Author: Claret medicated boltzmann prole

Death panels. Gtfo of here with this cucky economist bs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420455)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:35 PM
Author: Transparent territorial turdskin home

Medicare for one should be abolished

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420456)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal federal scourge upon the earth stage

Link to how to sustain a Ponzi Scheme?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420613)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: talented kitchen

do you actually think we're importing workers who are capable of sustaining this ponzi scheme? do you actually think they'll be WILLING to sustain it once they have any amount of political power? a hostile nonwhite working population and a greedy old white retiree population? that sounds like a stable society!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420833)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:19 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

Link to me saying that our immigration laws are anything but a total disaster? It won't be stable. We desperately need to change our laws and bring more people of white European descent to our country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420850)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: talented kitchen

they don't want to come. even our biggest source of white immigrants (ukraine) has been falling off over time, as they come to prefer poland or elsewhere in europe to the US. if you spend time outside the US, something like the mass-shooting epidemic alone has probably dampened developed-world immigration by a large amount. people think the US is in social decline.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420870)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:28 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

We could change that if there was an easier process to come over here and we actively recruited them. The immigration process is a total nightmare. I have worked with whites from Australia and South Africa who have told me how difficult it was to move over here.

3 million people in the UK alone would like to move here

https://news.gallup.com/poll/153992/150-million-adults-worldwide-migrate.aspx

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420940)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:30 PM
Author: Seedy elite quadroon lettuce

This is true. Ideally we should have almost free movement between US/UK/Canada/Aus/NZ, assuming we deport all Musbros, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420954)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:39 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

Agreed, but the UK has WAY too many Indians/Pakis that we do not want

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421061)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:33 PM
Author: Transparent territorial turdskin home

Why don't we find ways to encourage more fertility instead?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420431)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

We should do that, but we still need highly skilled immigrants. Not talking about Indian IT guys working for Infosys - we need to bring the best people in the world in cutting-edge tech.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420462)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: Transparent territorial turdskin home

that is a very small number of people per year if you are talking about truly exceptional immigrants.

If we want to bring in 5k of the absolute best and brightest per year? Fine by me so long as they want to be Americans.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420477)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: Well-lubricated doobsian goyim

Why do we need this?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420485)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:39 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

So we don't become virtual economic slaves to the Chinese and have them dominate the most economically important industries. So the economy grows and we can live in a prosperous country, not a dying one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420500)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: marvelous bearded gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420503)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

Maybe for now, but they have plan to systematically destroy our tech industry and economy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420516)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: marvelous bearded gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420538)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

Their made in China in 2025 is pretty explicit

https://www.cfr.org/blog/why-does-everyone-hate-made-china-2025

Beijing's grand plan to upgrade its manufacturing base has riled governments around the world, confirming their suspicion that China is not looking for a 'win-win' in trade relations as its overseas emissaries often insist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420572)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: marvelous bearded gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420589)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

The Chinese aren't creative. But it is not only white Americans who develop ideas. Plus we need an army of code monkeys to implement ideas now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420604)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: marvelous bearded gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420668)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:00 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

You really think we could just bring in White Americans to take all these jobs?

https://www.bizjournals.com/sanjose/news/2017/02/28/immigration-silicon-valley-impact.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420689)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:01 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

nearly 16% of start-ups in Silicon Valley had an Indian co-founder even though Indians represented just 6% of the region's population. The figure for Indian start-ups is even higher in some areas, such as business software.

http://www.latimes.com/business/la-fi-indians-in-tech-20150812-story.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420703)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: marvelous bearded gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421000)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:38 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

https://blogs.wsj.com/digits/2016/03/17/study-immigrants-founded-51-of-u-s-billion-dollar-startups/

The study shows that immigrants started more than half of the current crop of U.S.-based startups valued at $1 billion or more.

These 44 companies, the study says, are collectively valued at $168 billion and create an average of roughly 760 jobs per company in the U.S. The study also estimates that immigrants make up over 70% of key management or product development positions at these companies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421052)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:36 PM
Author: Seedy elite quadroon lettuce

Most of these "startups" are just scams to bring in more Indians

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421031)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:37 PM
Author: Transparent territorial turdskin home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421041)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: marvelous bearded gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421433)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: fighting contagious lodge

Honestly this will never happen given the culture/technology

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420494)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

There could be benefits that encourage fertility - free or discounted childcare, tax credits, mandatory maternity leave etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420507)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:35 PM
Author: shivering pervert

Do we need to be at replacement rate? Can we not allow young adult immigrants once we do actually need them, instead of a generation prior?

Perhaps Americans would have more children if there were less immigration, too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420454)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:37 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

The economic reasons people aren't having kids wouldn't change. I am all for less immigrants overall, but this isn't a serious argument.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420483)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:38 PM
Author: Transparent territorial turdskin home

False. Immigration makes a lot of areas and the schools less desirable.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420493)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:39 PM
Author: fighting contagious lodge



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420497)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

Non-skills based immigrants is what I am talking about. You really think areas and schools will be less desirable if we have an influx in white British and Australian immigrants. We could have a points based immigration plan that heavily weighs being a native English speaker with a college degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420535)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: shivering pervert

Immigration doesn't affect the economy or people's opportunities in it...? I find it pretty fucking unlikely that immigration affects no one, but perhaps I misunderstood you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420512)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

You really think people are not having kids because we have a bunch of low-wage Mexicans living here? Not because a house in Cali is like $600K on average (for a shit box in a bad school district) and daycare is $2k a month and people owe tens of thousands of dollars in student loans? How many threads on XO have there been about not having kids without a HHI of $350K? Plus there is the whole phenomenon of women wanting to Eat, Pray, Love and be Carrie Bradshaw wannabees until they are 40.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420675)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:06 PM
Author: shivering pervert

I think a massive underclass does indeed exacerbate a lot of those problems, for a shit load of Americans, yes.

People making $350k are a rounding error when it comes to population. What they do wrt having kids has almost zero effect on our population growth.

Having tons of needy poors makes a lot of things more expensive and causes a lot of societal problems.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420750)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:12 PM
Author: Seedy elite quadroon lettuce

Absolutely yes.

When the local public schools everywhere are unusable due to being full of Mexicans (forcing white people to go private or move to a few expensive "good school" suburbs), that greatly reduces people's ability/desire to have a lot of kids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420795)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

Looking at the data that is only part of the story. I agree, it plays a role, but it is not the dominant reason.

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/07/05/upshot/americans-are-having-fewer-babies-they-told-us-why.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420824)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: Seedy elite quadroon lettuce

That "data" is just survey results. People will say all kinds of crap to justify their choices. I wouldn't put much faith in it.

If you make it cheaper to have more kids, people will have more kids. If you don't have to spend all your money on moving away from minorities/non-English speakers just to be able to send your kids to school, it gets a lot cheaper.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420855)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

I think it would make a difference, but would likely need to be coupled with government benefits (tax credits, free or discounted childcare, paid maternity leave etc.) to truly make a difference.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421069)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: Lascivious bbw

people aren't avoiding kids for economic reasons, that's a fig leaf. people are avoiding kids for cultural (and possibly hormonal though that is kind of conspiracy theory-esque) reasons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420597)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: Transparent territorial turdskin home

agreed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420605)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: fighting contagious lodge

Cr we're all blown-out selfish hedonists addicted to dopamine hits, Gen z women aren't going to want anything but at most 1 little Liam to take Instagram selfies with

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420607)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420708)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:57 PM
Author: Claret medicated boltzmann prole

Couldn't disagree more. Having kids and trying to emulate even 70% of what two teachers could provide 25 years ago is a herculean task now. Public schooling alone is a problem most aspiring parents could stare at for years and not come up with an answer for. People drive a fucking hour+ each way to and from work just so their kids can go to school. It's all economic. It costs a shit ton of money to do anything other than take instagram pictures of farm to table crap served by peasant Guatemalans. Millennials didn't choose that life they just pretend they did to save face.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420665)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: fighting contagious lodge

Hm

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420674)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:14 PM
Author: Seedy elite quadroon lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420811)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:19 PM
Author: Duck-like gay clown depressive

This is spot on. Agree 100%.

My personal theory is that we have a biological trigger with respect to childbearing that turns off when it is apparent we can't provide a quality of life for our family that doesn't roughly approximate what we experienced when we were young.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420849)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Lascivious bbw

Average house size in 1983 was 1,725 sq ft. Average house size in 2013 was 2,598 sq ft.

https://money.cnn.com/2014/06/04/real_estate/american-home-size/index.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421081)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 6:51 PM
Author: Duck-like gay clown depressive

How about you go ahead and spell out the point you think you are making.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421758)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: Transparent territorial turdskin home

>> Public schooling alone is a problem most aspiring parents could stare at for years and not come up with an answer for. People drive a fucking hour+ each way to and from work just so their kids can go to school. It's all economic. <<

I'd argue a lot of that right there is demographic, not economic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420904)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:39 PM
Author: Duck-like gay clown depressive

Trying to make this distinction highlights that most claims of racism in modern America are a joke. If white parents had a the option of sending their kids to a 90% black public school, but the kids' behavior in school was identical to that of white kids in an affluent public school district, the parents would rejoice that they had such an option.

Whether the distinction in behavior is attributable to economic or demographic differences is a bit like contemplating how many angels can stand on the end of the pen.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421058)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Seedy elite quadroon lettuce

In areas of the country where it's cheaper to have more kids, people have more kids. Yeah, brunch shrews might not, but people who want kids will have that 3rd or 4th kid if it's cheaper.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420827)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Lascivious bbw

"In areas of the country where it's cheaper to have more kids, people have more kids. "

I don't think you can infer causation from this. just as likely that people who want to have lots of kids don't move to MFH and orient their lives towards maximizing income flow.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421066)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: spectacular milky indian lodge stock car

no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420458)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:40 PM
Author: Deep School

We dont need them. They can potentially be useful if we are picky and take in the right people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420504)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:41 PM
Author: glittery light cuckold site

Immigration made this country great, but it was controlled immigration. Liberals open borders so low-income, poorly educated immigrants can come here because that's who their existing voters are. We should actively poach the world's best and brightest and lock them into staying in America.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420521)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

CR. I am 100% behind this approach. Don't get people who don't want ANY immigration.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420540)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:44 PM
Author: spectacular milky indian lodge stock car

America doesn't need "highly educated" and "credentialed" people from Pakistan, India, Iran. Trust me, these people are not good people.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420553)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:47 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

Native English speakers with college degrees from Canada/UK/Australia/New Zealand would be a plus. As well as all the IIT grads we can take from India.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420592)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: spectacular milky indian lodge stock car

jfc you don't know how terrible indians are

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420602)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:49 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

I work with Indian engineers. They are awful - but IIT grads are extremely smart.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420608)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:21 PM
Author: talented kitchen

not many white people from elsewhere want to immigrate to the US anymore, so that's largely a nonfactor in terms of overall numbers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420864)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface

We could change that if we wanted to. If we actively recruited them we could attract a lot of whites. There are at least 3 million people in the UK who would move here if they could according to polls.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421080)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:46 PM
Author: Deep School

Historically, america had essentially open borders but it was balanced by 0 social services. If you didnt work and earn your way, you starved in the street and died and only the fittest survived.

Open borders and a welfare state cannot be combined. It has to be one or the other.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420586)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: talented kitchen

open borders and no GOVERNMENT social services would still be a total disaster. much poorer countries with no welfare for outsiders are STILL flooded with people from even poorer countries, like sudanese in egypt, haitians in the dominican republic, afghans in pakistan and iran, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420889)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Erotic Range Dragon

Yes but we need emigrants more.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420547)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: glittery light cuckold site

Send Germany 3/5s of an African American for each ethnic German that comes here. Merkel loves African immigrants.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420565)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Erotic Range Dragon

I’d send all pumos for sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420672)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: fiercely-loyal federal scourge upon the earth stage

No. We have no shortage of people

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420611)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: adventurous khaki fortuitous meteor

Infinite population growth is good for GC and GDP, but not good for the world.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420615)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: Maize faggot firefighter hospital



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420709)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: Lavender locus

10,000/yr max. even that is too many. In 1960 we had 150 million people in the US, less than half of our current population. Imagine how beautiful, free and full of wide open green space America used to be. I would rather preserve what little we have left than continue building a bigger consumer base, which has degraded everyone's quality of life on multiple levels, solely to enrich the upper echelon of the capital class.

In sum, no we don't need any more immigrants. America's full, try Mexico. Thank

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420681)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: Seedy elite quadroon lettuce

cr.

Our fertility rate will naturally rise if we stop bringing in millions of people to compete with us for our own resources in our own country.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420775)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: talented kitchen

the truth is, america is overcrowded. the whole "american spirit" concept depended upon having a relatively light population base and lots of room for people to roam. with 330 million people and rising, we've already lost a lot of that. it's too many. and libs/elites want to pump that up to half a BILLION if they can...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420909)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Lavender locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420920)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: Transparent territorial turdskin home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420924)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:28 PM
Author: Seedy elite quadroon lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420934)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:28 PM
Author: soggy roast beef

Also, the people who say that America has lots of room pay $2,000/mo for studios in a dozen or so coastal megalopolises. Doesn't make sense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420938)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:30 PM
Author: fighting contagious lodge

You could fit a billion in there, look at all that empty space, heh heh!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36420960)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: cerebral flushed national

(nazi who supports Lebensraum)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421073)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: Apoplectic frozen center



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421637)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: Yellow 180 background story degenerate

There's plenty of space in the red States

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421740)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 6:49 PM
Author: Lavender locus

not every place needs to look like your native bangladesh

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421749)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 7:30 PM
Author: hairraiser nofapping temple police squad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421941)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 6:49 PM
Author: Yellow 180 background story degenerate

Without highly educated and hungry immigrants, we'd basically turn into Spain and Italy. Bunch of lazy whites who live at home and can't compete in the global economy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421744)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 6:50 PM
Author: Lavender locus

somehow i think we'll manage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421754)



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Date: July 14th, 2018 1:22 AM
Author: Motley Amethyst Orchestra Pit Ratface



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36423768)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 6:53 PM
Author: naked shrine candlestick maker

sounds like we need to up our intake of thin, attractive 16-25 year old female immigrants who don't have ethnic/cultural issues with marrying existing americans.

so yes, we need immigrants. trump should look into special visa programs with the SWANUS countries, the baltics, and eastern europe.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421761)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Yellow 180 background story degenerate

Truth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36422623)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 6:53 PM
Author: bearded sooty stage antidepressant drug

“Replacement rate” is sinister GC speak. We need less people, not more. Anyone regarding the population as data points for some faggot’s retirement scheme should be flayed alive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36421763)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Seedy elite quadroon lettuce



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36422588)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: Tan resort



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36422601)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: Lavender locus



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36422615)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: bonkers appetizing stead

hfgr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36422619)



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Date: July 13th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: Tan resort

Sure, but the number is a) small, and b) should largely be limited towards people deemed compatible with our culture and society rather than a cynical push to change the demographics of the country to allow a divide and conquer strategy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36422608)



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Date: July 14th, 2018 1:40 AM
Author: maniacal location patrolman

N

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4025145&forum_id=2#36423826)