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TMF and MND drive beamers and sleep on a futon what the hell

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spruce wild toaster
  07/15/18
fuck you I wont do what you tell me !
chocolate fiercely-loyal corner
  07/15/18
It's the Russian way. People in Brighton Beach live in shitt...
Garnet Vengeful Heaven Persian
  07/15/18
http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/concept_cars/lada_rav...
Free-loading quadroon
  07/16/18
Why are Russians obsessed with ostentatious shit? Is it a cu...
Motley Mood Jewess
  07/16/18
Why are Yankee so prole that they drive shitty Yankee made c...
Garnet Vengeful Heaven Persian
  07/16/18
Forget the cars. What about the women wearing nothing but st...
Motley Mood Jewess
  07/16/18
Life is short so best to whore it up. We don't live long, br...
Garnet Vengeful Heaven Persian
  07/16/18
That's just hedonism.
Free-loading quadroon
  07/17/18
theyre azn. look at it through that lens
coiffed galvanic stain
  07/17/18
...
cream gaping halford
  07/18/18
This isn't totally wrong.
Free-loading quadroon
  07/22/18
1) Russians hate mediocrity and always have. Americans are ...
Free-loading quadroon
  07/16/18
Russians are subhuman
Mind-boggling sanctuary boiling water
  07/17/18
average Russian IQ is 73
cream gaping halford
  07/18/18
BS. Same as US and for the same reason (certain groups that...
Free-loading quadroon
  07/18/18
u have ur sources, I have mine
cream gaping halford
  07/18/18
(guy with 73 IQ)
Free-loading quadroon
  07/18/18
There's another term for this. ..
walnut patrolman
  07/17/18
...
histrionic cordovan puppy roast beef
  07/18/18
ur just anti-semitic.
Misanthropic Submissive Dingle Berry Hell
  07/15/18
You’re a pedophile.
spruce wild toaster
  07/15/18
ur a hater.
Misanthropic Submissive Dingle Berry Hell
  07/15/18
Jews drive minivans from what I can tell.
Free-loading quadroon
  07/16/18
Wtf, we don't even own a futon. King sized bed.
Free-loading quadroon
  07/16/18
all my Ukrainians friends are like this. most have pretty de...
french turdskin place of business
  07/16/18
So to be clear, Mandy banned me from getting a BMW/Mercedes/...
Free-loading quadroon
  07/16/18
Yes. Because we are not Ukrainian. stfu TMF.
out-of-control national internal respiration
  07/16/18
damn mommy
big water buffalo
  07/16/18
...
At-the-ready wonderful spot antidepressant drug
  07/22/18
because of this thread?
tantric bawdyhouse personal credit line
  07/17/18
Huh? We have a nice house now. Point is, I wanted a nice c...
Free-loading quadroon
  07/17/18
muzshina v yubke blyat'
french turdskin place of business
  07/17/18
chto za pizdets?
Free-loading quadroon
  07/17/18
oh, I didn't realize you were counting the new house as &quo...
tantric bawdyhouse personal credit line
  07/17/18
The oil spill will get cleaned up soon, okay? Gawd!
Free-loading quadroon
  07/17/18
cars are cool and fun, homes are just where you live. no rea...
Vigorous idiot
  07/17/18
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Bull Headed Cerebral Piazza Juggernaut
  07/17/18
To be fair, new car and new house are roughly on par.
Free-loading quadroon
  07/17/18
yep. the northern nj ukrainian community is the same. all t...
Aphrodisiac Stage Ladyboy
  07/17/18
We're not going for the x6m. That seems to be a lot to pay ...
Free-loading quadroon
  07/17/18
so you are getting an x6? beautiful car.
Aphrodisiac Stage Ladyboy
  07/17/18
x6 50i. This would be a second car to the Jeep so she figur...
Free-loading quadroon
  07/17/18
nice. im thinking about tinting the windows on ny wrx wagon....
Aphrodisiac Stage Ladyboy
  07/17/18
Nah.
Free-loading quadroon
  07/17/18
wtf
Aphrodisiac Stage Ladyboy
  07/17/18
Sorry, let me rephrase that. Describe the performance impro...
Free-loading quadroon
  07/17/18
my kids wont be blinded. im also going to do some minor ...
Aphrodisiac Stage Ladyboy
  07/17/18
Downside is worse visibility at night. 0-60 with that?
Free-loading quadroon
  07/17/18
around 4.5-5 seconds.
Aphrodisiac Stage Ladyboy
  07/17/18
lulz, 4.6 is my X6 50i stock. Not going to tune it due to w...
Free-loading quadroon
  07/17/18
i paid $8k for my car a year ago. $650 for the accessport an...
Aphrodisiac Stage Ladyboy
  07/18/18
No, I was noting that your cheap car is as fast as mine. Th...
Free-loading quadroon
  07/18/18
ok i read it wrong. my b.
Aphrodisiac Stage Ladyboy
  07/18/18
BMW come wit dat maintenance included
Bull Headed Cerebral Piazza Juggernaut
  07/18/18
I don't think you get it with CPO.
Free-loading quadroon
  07/18/18
you absolutely do
Bull Headed Cerebral Piazza Juggernaut
  07/18/18
Seriously? That is fucking awesome and I didn't even count ...
Free-loading quadroon
  07/18/18
yeah, the maintenance plan came with my CPO
Bull Headed Cerebral Piazza Juggernaut
  07/18/18
thx, good info
Free-loading quadroon
  07/18/18
X6 is fucking hideous. I didn’t realize non Asians ever boug...
tantric bawdyhouse personal credit line
  07/18/18
My wife really likes it. Long term we'll probably have 1 X5...
Free-loading quadroon
  07/18/18
*bimmer
Bull Headed Cerebral Piazza Juggernaut
  07/17/18
This too.
Free-loading quadroon
  07/17/18
(guy who rides a bike)
stimulating box office
  07/17/18
?
Bull Headed Cerebral Piazza Juggernaut
  07/17/18
? They both ride hogs
spruce wild toaster
  07/17/18
?
Free-loading quadroon
  07/17/18
Trying to decide to go to Elbrus this September to take alph...
Duck-like ruddy trailer park
  07/17/18
Sept. is probably the worst time to go to Elbrus. Why not g...
Free-loading quadroon
  07/17/18
What would u know about elbrus? Sept is still summer season....
Duck-like ruddy trailer park
  07/17/18
I know it as the primary good ski resort in Russia. Mea...
Free-loading quadroon
  07/17/18


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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:36 PM
Author: spruce wild toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36431492)



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Date: July 15th, 2018 3:55 PM
Author: chocolate fiercely-loyal corner

fuck you I wont do what you tell me !

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36431590)



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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: Garnet Vengeful Heaven Persian

It's the Russian way. People in Brighton Beach live in shitty 1 bedroom apartments and drive $120k Audi RS7s. And despite this TTT Lada can't make one decent performance car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36431618)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:48 PM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

http://www.diseno-art.com/encyclopedia/concept_cars/lada_raven.html

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440737)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:56 PM
Author: Motley Mood Jewess

Why are Russians obsessed with ostentatious shit? Is it a cultural reaction to years of living with nothing under the Soviet system or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440782)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:57 PM
Author: Garnet Vengeful Heaven Persian

Why are Yankee so prole that they drive shitty Yankee made cars?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440792)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:59 PM
Author: Motley Mood Jewess

Forget the cars. What about the women wearing nothing but stupid designer clothing and feeling the need to share it obsessively on social media?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440803)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Garnet Vengeful Heaven Persian

Life is short so best to whore it up. We don't live long, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440814)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:35 AM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

That's just hedonism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443426)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: coiffed galvanic stain

theyre azn. look at it through that lens

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443478)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: cream gaping halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451046)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:03 PM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

This isn't totally wrong.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36477601)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

1) Russians hate mediocrity and always have. Americans are really into being an "average Joe". Russians are about being at the top.

2) It is really worth it for guys. Russian women respect it more.

3) Yeah, I think there's a recognition that the stakes are higher when you come from a culture with less stability.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440817)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: Mind-boggling sanctuary boiling water

Russians are subhuman

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443585)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:02 AM
Author: cream gaping halford

average Russian IQ is 73

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451045)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:10 AM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

BS. Same as US and for the same reason (certain groups that drag down the average).

https://www.targetmap.com/viewer.aspx?reportId=2812



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451103)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:11 AM
Author: cream gaping halford

u have ur sources, I have mine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451107)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

(guy with 73 IQ)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451181)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:38 AM
Author: walnut patrolman

There's another term for this. ..

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443432)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:37 AM
Author: histrionic cordovan puppy roast beef



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451728)



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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:02 PM
Author: Misanthropic Submissive Dingle Berry Hell

ur just anti-semitic.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36431622)



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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: spruce wild toaster

You’re a pedophile.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36431625)



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Date: July 15th, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: Misanthropic Submissive Dingle Berry Hell

ur a hater.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36431627)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:45 PM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

Jews drive minivans from what I can tell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440713)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:45 PM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

Wtf, we don't even own a futon. King sized bed.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440716)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:47 PM
Author: french turdskin place of business

all my Ukrainians friends are like this. most have pretty decent cars and live in shitty apartments outside the center

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440725)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:49 PM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

So to be clear, Mandy banned me from getting a BMW/Mercedes/Porsche until we moved to a nice house.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440742)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: out-of-control national internal respiration

Yes. Because we are not Ukrainian. stfu TMF.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440780)



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Date: July 16th, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: big water buffalo

damn mommy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36440851)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: At-the-ready wonderful spot antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36477615)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:42 AM
Author: tantric bawdyhouse personal credit line

because of this thread?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443443)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:17 AM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

Huh? We have a nice house now. Point is, I wanted a nice car a while ago and she was like "fuck that, get a nice house, then we can get you your nice car."

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443597)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:24 AM
Author: french turdskin place of business

muzshina v yubke blyat'

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443637)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

chto za pizdets?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443642)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:49 PM
Author: tantric bawdyhouse personal credit line

oh, I didn't realize you were counting the new house as "nice"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36444588)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:15 PM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

The oil spill will get cleaned up soon, okay? Gawd!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36448940)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: Vigorous idiot

cars are cool and fun, homes are just where you live. no reason your home should be higher quality than your cars

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443465)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: Bull Headed Cerebral Piazza Juggernaut



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443633)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:28 AM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

To be fair, new car and new house are roughly on par.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443659)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:26 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac Stage Ladyboy

yep. the northern nj ukrainian community is the same. all the FOBs driver baller cars but have modest means. one guy drives a goddamn M6.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443648)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:30 AM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

We're not going for the x6m. That seems to be a lot to pay for the marginal benefit. Same engine just with more boost anyway.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443675)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:33 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac Stage Ladyboy

so you are getting an x6? beautiful car.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443691)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:35 AM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

x6 50i. This would be a second car to the Jeep so she figures it is silly to get something just as big. When the Jeep dies in like 3-4 years we'll replace it with an x5 50i (assuming we're happy with the x6).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443695)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:37 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac Stage Ladyboy

nice. im thinking about tinting the windows on ny wrx wagon. cr? will cost $200.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443712)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:45 AM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

Nah.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443755)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:14 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac Stage Ladyboy

wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443967)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:15 AM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

Sorry, let me rephrase that. Describe the performance improvement from the tinting.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443979)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:18 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac Stage Ladyboy

my kids wont be blinded.

im also going to do some minor performance upgrades then adjust the tune so it will be pushing near 300hp.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36444000)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

Downside is worse visibility at night.

0-60 with that?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36444247)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:21 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Stage Ladyboy

around 4.5-5 seconds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36447431)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:15 PM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

lulz, 4.6 is my X6 50i stock. Not going to tune it due to warranty, of course.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36448945)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:40 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac Stage Ladyboy

i paid $8k for my car a year ago. $650 for the accessport and would be another $1,000 max for the parts. Car has 75k miles and will go another 100k with just routine maintenance.

Your comparing that to an $80k car that you will pay a fortune for in maintenance. Yeah, lol @ me.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36449959)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:04 AM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

No, I was noting that your cheap car is as fast as mine. That wasn't me knocking you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36450677)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:36 AM
Author: Aphrodisiac Stage Ladyboy

ok i read it wrong. my b.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451722)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: Bull Headed Cerebral Piazza Juggernaut

BMW come wit dat maintenance included

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36450987)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:09 AM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

I don't think you get it with CPO.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451091)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:09 AM
Author: Bull Headed Cerebral Piazza Juggernaut

you absolutely do

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451094)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:11 AM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

Seriously? That is fucking awesome and I didn't even count on that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451104)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:12 AM
Author: Bull Headed Cerebral Piazza Juggernaut

yeah, the maintenance plan came with my CPO

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451111)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

thx, good info

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451177)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:42 AM
Author: tantric bawdyhouse personal credit line

X6 is fucking hideous. I didn’t realize non Asians ever bought them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36449964)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

My wife really likes it. Long term we'll probably have 1 X5 and 1 X6 both in 50i trim.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36451174)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: Bull Headed Cerebral Piazza Juggernaut

*bimmer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443643)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:29 AM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

This too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443665)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:29 AM
Author: stimulating box office

(guy who rides a bike)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443666)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 10:36 AM
Author: Bull Headed Cerebral Piazza Juggernaut

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36443706)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:11 PM
Author: spruce wild toaster

? They both ride hogs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36444316)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:12 PM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36444325)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: Duck-like ruddy trailer park

Trying to decide to go to Elbrus this September to take alpha selfies or to go to Europe with a new 21yo whore? Elbrus is slightly cheaper

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36444283)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

Sept. is probably the worst time to go to Elbrus. Why not go January/Feb?

I say Europe with 21yo whore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4026618&forum_id=2#36444291)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:27 PM
Author: Duck-like ruddy trailer park

What would u know about elbrus? Sept is still summer season. I don't know what I get out of meaningless sex for 1 week in Barcelona with someone that I wouldn't want to date long term

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Date: July 17th, 2018 1:31 PM
Author: Free-loading quadroon

I know it as the primary good ski resort in Russia.

Meaningless sex isn't terrible for men. Also, holy shit XO is getting old.

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