Triples and HRs should count as doubles for the purposes of records.
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Date: July 16th, 2018 11:58 PM Author: spruce azn
Like if you are chasing the record for most doubles in a season, you should get to count triples and homers towards that total. Makes no sense to penalize people for getting more bases.
And similarly, HRs should count as triples for the triples record.
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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:08 AM Author: Startled menage
i kind of agree. why is a guy who gets a single, double and 2 HRs not credited with a cycle? his achievement is better than a cycle.
i see your question. but stats are fun.
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Date: July 17th, 2018 2:38 AM Author: Big twinkling son of senegal
i just don't see the need to elevate the term "record" in the way you're using it. lots of shit gets recorded. early baseball bros started tracking hrs because they knew they were impressive. they started tracking cycles b/c they thought they were kooky and interesting. the term "record" is typically used in sports to connote achievement but the textbook definition is just recordings of data. you're arguing that cycles are in fact the latter but shouldn't be considered the former. i don't think anyone would really disagree.
to the extent that the fact that we record them all implies that we value them in some way - i guess this is really what you're arguing - that doesn't really imply anything about why we value them/whether we value them as anything more than interesting oddities, not completely irrelevant to the question of whether the player is talented but also not strongly indicative of it in any way, nor is it designed to be.
no hitters can be fluky and can be pitched by mediocre pitchers but they almost always mean that the pitcher pitched a damn good game. doesn't have to be that way and it isn't always that way but at least the premise of why we'd be interested in them is that it's athletically impressive to get 27 pro batters out without giving up a single hit. the premise of the cycle isn't athletic impressiveness as much as it is just the spectacle of it. to buck's point in OP i don't think there's anyone who would say that a 4-4 day with 3 extra base hits including a home run is more athletically impressive than going 4-4 with 4 hrs.
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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:08 AM Author: spruce azn
I also have an unrelated baseball question.
If you hit a single and try to stretch it into a double and get thrown out, how is that scored?
You still get credit for the single, right? Is the out counted as "caught stealing"? Or something else? Is there a stat category for "getting thrown out trying to take an extra base"?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4027979&forum_id=2#36442112) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:10 AM Author: Startled menage
scoring mfe here.
it's a single, ofs.
scored as single then a putout 9-4 or whatever
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Date: July 17th, 2018 12:14 AM Author: Big twinkling son of senegal
that's what slg is for
and it's also why nobody really gives a shit about the "singles" record, it's a record because they're their own distinct category and we inevitably count them. might as well ask why we count things.
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