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How do choose NYC firms

Is Cravath worth it? Wachtell or some other above market? ...
Burgundy antidepressant drug
  07/17/18
I almost teared up at this poa. Hearkens back to a simple...
Splenetic Resort
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Thriller people who are hurt boltzmann
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Burgundy antidepressant drug
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  07/18/18
choose wachtell because it pays a lot more than other firms....
buff frisky nursing home ratface
  07/17/18
Can you elaborate on the Skadden thing? It does seem they...
Splenetic Resort
  07/17/18
Those other four besides wachtell are all peers
exciting brunch
  07/17/18
(Skadden associate)
brilliant bisexual internal respiration
  07/17/18
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Zippy Fragrant Site Generalized Bond
  07/18/18
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umber incel
  07/18/18
Is Cravath not impressive anymore?
Burgundy antidepressant drug
  07/17/18
No. Law students are a lot more savvy nowadays. Most people ...
exciting brunch
  07/17/18
Had that impression as well. If you were gonna go for broke...
Burgundy antidepressant drug
  07/17/18
Way too general a question bro. What do you want to do long ...
exciting brunch
  07/17/18
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Burgundy antidepressant drug
  07/17/18
cravath isn’t that selective relative to its peers
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  07/17/18
You're 12 years too late. The entire bort is now trying to ...
brilliant bisexual internal respiration
  07/17/18
except for you, dumbass. and you're one of the only ones wit...
Floppy bright son of senegal jew
  07/17/18
Absolutely Devastating
Splenetic Resort
  07/17/18
That guy basically works 100% remote too, lmao
exciting brunch
  07/17/18
Yes, but I can't just pick up and move wherever -- I'm still...
brilliant bisexual internal respiration
  07/17/18
Why not live somewhere cheaper in California? Maybe somewher...
exciting brunch
  07/17/18
Housing being expensive is working for us now that we own. ...
brilliant bisexual internal respiration
  07/17/18
There are more factors in deciding where my wife, kid, and I...
brilliant bisexual internal respiration
  07/17/18
(dumbass)
Floppy bright son of senegal jew
  07/17/18
(guy who's never been to Buffalo or Schenectedy)
brilliant bisexual internal respiration
  07/17/18
Buffalo is gentrifying rapidly
buff frisky nursing home ratface
  07/17/18
On the most relative of bases, yes. I follow along on the N...
brilliant bisexual internal respiration
  07/17/18
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Histrionic lemon stage
  07/17/18
I dunno about NYC specifically but choose a firm by who you ...
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  07/17/18
What are your goals? Do you enjoy grinding hard and working...
Vivacious Clown Brethren
  07/17/18
cravath sends a ton of people to lazard. this is inapplicabl...
insanely creepy piazza mad-dog skullcap
  07/18/18
cleary is tcr if you can handle the office gays
Diverse lay
  07/18/18
You mean the male secretaries ?
exciting brunch
  07/18/18


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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: Burgundy antidepressant drug

Is Cravath worth it?

Wachtell or some other above market?

What’s the difference between DP, S&C, PW, etc

Everything seems awful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447328)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:09 PM
Author: Splenetic Resort

I almost teared up at this poa.

Hearkens back to a simpler time on are bort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447332)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: Thriller people who are hurt boltzmann



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447383)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: Burgundy antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447427)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Zippy Fragrant Site Generalized Bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453689)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: buff frisky nursing home ratface

choose wachtell because it pays a lot more than other firms. choose cravath because it's very selective and "prestigious." SullCrom and DPW are peers. Skadden is not a good firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447344)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Splenetic Resort

Can you elaborate on the Skadden thing?

It does seem they take sort of TTT people...like T30 law review types. Not that that's bad, but like, it ain't WLRK.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447354)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: exciting brunch

Those other four besides wachtell are all peers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447359)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: brilliant bisexual internal respiration

(Skadden associate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447365)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: Zippy Fragrant Site Generalized Bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453691)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: umber incel



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453930)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: Burgundy antidepressant drug

Is Cravath not impressive anymore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447369)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: exciting brunch

No. Law students are a lot more savvy nowadays. Most people know that cravath doesn’t offer much more than other v5s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447460)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:29 PM
Author: Burgundy antidepressant drug

Had that impression as well. If you were gonna go for broke and tough out a couple years for max benefits, where would it be? Does the choice just come down to pay these days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447496)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:51 PM
Author: exciting brunch

Way too general a question bro. What do you want to do long term? Also are you flaming? Law students don’t really post here anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447644)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: Burgundy antidepressant drug



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447575)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:12 PM
Author: insanely creepy piazza mad-dog skullcap

cravath isn’t that selective relative to its peers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448240)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: brilliant bisexual internal respiration

You're 12 years too late. The entire bort is now trying to figure out how to lateral to Jones Day in Cleveland, Columbus, or Pittsburgh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447487)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:31 PM
Author: Floppy bright son of senegal jew

except for you, dumbass. and you're one of the only ones with a connection to a lifestyle market (Schenectady or whatever shithole you're from). yet you insist on living in paloturd altochink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447510)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:32 PM
Author: Splenetic Resort

Absolutely Devastating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447515)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: exciting brunch

That guy basically works 100% remote too, lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447524)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: brilliant bisexual internal respiration

Yes, but I can't just pick up and move wherever -- I'm still expected to be available to go to occasional meetings and meet with clients.

I could probably get away with traveling / working from somewhere else for a month or so at a time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447558)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:22 PM
Author: exciting brunch

Why not live somewhere cheaper in California? Maybe somewhere down the coast? I don’t see the point of living in Silicon Valley if you don’t even have to go into the office

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448297)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: brilliant bisexual internal respiration

Housing being expensive is working for us now that we own. Our $700k townhouse almost doubled, then we sold. Current house is up at least $1m from when we bought it a few years ago. This is pure luck and could all disappear so I haven't spent it, but I am hopeful that the house continues to appreciate.

The attraction to being in SV is also for wife's job and both of our future opportunities. We could probably sell, pocket some gains, and buy something less expensive in Paso or somewhere on the coast, but if either of us wanted to switch jobs or was forced to, it would be an issue. Much easier to find other comparable jobs in SF or SV than in SLO or Eureka or some place that's cheaper enough to make a move seem worth it.

Wife's parents are 20 mins away, too, and bought to be close to us. Moving away from them wouldn't be a popular decision.

Our daily life is also really nice: My wife has friends here, we can walk or bike to a bunch of parks, a few schools, a library, a couple of suburban downtowns, some grocery stores -- it's really not bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448507)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: brilliant bisexual internal respiration

There are more factors in deciding where my wife, kid, and I live than where I grew up >20 years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447546)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: Floppy bright son of senegal jew

(dumbass)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447566)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:44 PM
Author: brilliant bisexual internal respiration

(guy who's never been to Buffalo or Schenectedy)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447602)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: buff frisky nursing home ratface

Buffalo is gentrifying rapidly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448231)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:15 PM
Author: brilliant bisexual internal respiration

On the most relative of bases, yes. I follow along on the News and Buffalo Rising. Will always be home to some degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448272)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: Histrionic lemon stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447672)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: soul-stirring mint jap

I dunno about NYC specifically but choose a firm by who you will actually do most of your work for

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448237)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:27 PM
Author: Vivacious Clown Brethren

What are your goals?

Do you enjoy grinding hard and working? For example, are you the guy who color coded case briefs?

I see absolutely no benefit to Cravath. It's "prestigious" but all V20 firms are, so who cares. You work harder for nothing. If you're the color coded briefs guy, maybe it's for you.

Does Wachtell still pay 100% of salary as a bonus? If so, that's the obvious pick. Take the money.

Otherwise, pick a V10-V50 firm instead because (with some notable exceptions) you may work slightly less and you'll be around less gunners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448329)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: insanely creepy piazza mad-dog skullcap

cravath sends a ton of people to lazard. this is inapplicable to 99.99999% of people here but it’s a real benefit over say s&c or cleary. as a general rule working at places non-lawyers have heard of maximizes your chances of actually getting the hell out of law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453924)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: Diverse lay

cleary is tcr if you can handle the office gays

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453359)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: exciting brunch

You mean the male secretaries ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453792)