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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:08 PM Author: amethyst field Is Cravath worth it? Wachtell or some other above market? What’s the difference between DP, S&C, PW, etc
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:09 PM Author: bat shit crazy khaki dingle berry theater I almost teared up at this poa.
Hearkens back to a simpler time on are bort. |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:14 PM Author: cobalt theatre incel (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447383) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:20 PM Author: amethyst field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447427) |
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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:52 PM Author: filthy stage people who are hurt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453689) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:10 PM Author: spectacular locale haunted graveyard choose wachtell because it pays a lot more than other firms. choose cravath because it's very selective and "prestigious." SullCrom and DPW are peers. Skadden is not a good firm. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447344) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:12 PM Author: bat shit crazy khaki dingle berry theater Can you elaborate on the Skadden thing?
It does seem they take sort of TTT people...like T30 law review types. Not that that's bad, but like, it ain't WLRK. |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:12 PM Author: titillating glassy coffee pot main people Those other four besides wachtell are all peers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447359) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:13 PM Author: effete area (Skadden associate) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447365) |
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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:52 PM Author: filthy stage people who are hurt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453691) |
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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:18 PM Author: irate lettuce (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453930) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:13 PM Author: amethyst field Is Cravath not impressive anymore? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447369) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:24 PM Author: titillating glassy coffee pot main people No. Law students are a lot more savvy nowadays. Most people know that cravath doesn’t offer much more than other v5s (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447460) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:29 PM Author: amethyst field Had that impression as well. If you were gonna go for broke and tough out a couple years for max benefits, where would it be? Does the choice just come down to pay these days? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447496) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:51 PM Author: titillating glassy coffee pot main people Way too general a question bro. What do you want to do long term? Also are you flaming? Law students don’t really post here anymore (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447644) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:40 PM Author: amethyst field (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447575) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:12 PM Author: Motley medicated gaping turdskin cravath isn’t that selective relative to its peers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448240) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:28 PM Author: effete area You're 12 years too late. The entire bort is now trying to figure out how to lateral to Jones Day in Cleveland, Columbus, or Pittsburgh. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447487) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:31 PM Author: splenetic stage yarmulke except for you, dumbass. and you're one of the only ones with a connection to a lifestyle market (Schenectady or whatever shithole you're from). yet you insist on living in paloturd altochink (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447510) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:32 PM Author: bat shit crazy khaki dingle berry theater Absolutely Devastating (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447515) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:34 PM Author: titillating glassy coffee pot main people That guy basically works 100% remote too, lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447524) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:39 PM Author: effete area Yes, but I can't just pick up and move wherever -- I'm still expected to be available to go to occasional meetings and meet with clients.
I could probably get away with traveling / working from somewhere else for a month or so at a time. |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:22 PM Author: titillating glassy coffee pot main people Why not live somewhere cheaper in California? Maybe somewhere down the coast? I don’t see the point of living in Silicon Valley if you don’t even have to go into the office (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448297) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:55 PM Author: effete area Housing being expensive is working for us now that we own. Our $700k townhouse almost doubled, then we sold. Current house is up at least $1m from when we bought it a few years ago. This is pure luck and could all disappear so I haven't spent it, but I am hopeful that the house continues to appreciate.
The attraction to being in SV is also for wife's job and both of our future opportunities. We could probably sell, pocket some gains, and buy something less expensive in Paso or somewhere on the coast, but if either of us wanted to switch jobs or was forced to, it would be an issue. Much easier to find other comparable jobs in SF or SV than in SLO or Eureka or some place that's cheaper enough to make a move seem worth it.
Wife's parents are 20 mins away, too, and bought to be close to us. Moving away from them wouldn't be a popular decision.
Our daily life is also really nice: My wife has friends here, we can walk or bike to a bunch of parks, a few schools, a library, a couple of suburban downtowns, some grocery stores -- it's really not bad. |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:37 PM Author: effete area There are more factors in deciding where my wife, kid, and I live than where I grew up >20 years ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447546) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:40 PM Author: splenetic stage yarmulke (dumbass) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447566) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:44 PM Author: effete area (guy who's never been to Buffalo or Schenectedy) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447602) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:11 PM Author: spectacular locale haunted graveyard Buffalo is gentrifying rapidly (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448231) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:15 PM Author: effete area On the most relative of bases, yes. I follow along on the News and Buffalo Rising. Will always be home to some degree. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448272) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:57 PM Author: Awkward tanning salon milk (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447672) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:11 PM Author: jet contagious stead I dunno about NYC specifically but choose a firm by who you will actually do most of your work for (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448237) |
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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:27 PM Author: ocher telephone private investor What are your goals? Do you enjoy grinding hard and working? For example, are you the guy who color coded case briefs?
I see absolutely no benefit to Cravath. It's "prestigious" but all V20 firms are, so who cares. You work harder for nothing. If you're the color coded briefs guy, maybe it's for you.
Does Wachtell still pay 100% of salary as a bonus? If so, that's the obvious pick. Take the money.
Otherwise, pick a V10-V50 firm instead because (with some notable exceptions) you may work slightly less and you'll be around less gunners. |
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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:17 PM Author: Motley medicated gaping turdskin cravath sends a ton of people to lazard. this is inapplicable to 99.99999% of people here but it’s a real benefit over say s&c or cleary. as a general rule working at places non-lawyers have heard of maximizes your chances of actually getting the hell out of law (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453924) |
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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:14 PM Author: indigo tattoo elastic band cleary is tcr if you can handle the office gays (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453359) |
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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:05 PM Author: titillating glassy coffee pot main people You mean the male secretaries ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453792) |