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How do choose NYC firms

Is Cravath worth it? Wachtell or some other above market? ...
Bateful burgundy ceo parlour
  07/17/18
I almost teared up at this poa. Hearkens back to a simple...
cracking fuchsia messiness
  07/17/18
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charismatic chad
  07/17/18
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Bateful burgundy ceo parlour
  07/17/18
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lascivious love of her life
  07/18/18
choose wachtell because it pays a lot more than other firms....
mewling corner volcanic crater
  07/17/18
Can you elaborate on the Skadden thing? It does seem they...
cracking fuchsia messiness
  07/17/18
Those other four besides wachtell are all peers
Buck-toothed kitchen indirect expression
  07/17/18
(Skadden associate)
Rambunctious exciting associate
  07/17/18
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lascivious love of her life
  07/18/18
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Maize painfully honest persian
  07/18/18
Is Cravath not impressive anymore?
Bateful burgundy ceo parlour
  07/17/18
No. Law students are a lot more savvy nowadays. Most people ...
Buck-toothed kitchen indirect expression
  07/17/18
Had that impression as well. If you were gonna go for broke...
Bateful burgundy ceo parlour
  07/17/18
Way too general a question bro. What do you want to do long ...
Buck-toothed kitchen indirect expression
  07/17/18
...
Bateful burgundy ceo parlour
  07/17/18
cravath isn’t that selective relative to its peers
Cyan heaven
  07/17/18
You're 12 years too late. The entire bort is now trying to ...
Rambunctious exciting associate
  07/17/18
except for you, dumbass. and you're one of the only ones wit...
Blue electric french chef crotch
  07/17/18
Absolutely Devastating
cracking fuchsia messiness
  07/17/18
That guy basically works 100% remote too, lmao
Buck-toothed kitchen indirect expression
  07/17/18
Yes, but I can't just pick up and move wherever -- I'm still...
Rambunctious exciting associate
  07/17/18
Why not live somewhere cheaper in California? Maybe somewher...
Buck-toothed kitchen indirect expression
  07/17/18
Housing being expensive is working for us now that we own. ...
Rambunctious exciting associate
  07/17/18
There are more factors in deciding where my wife, kid, and I...
Rambunctious exciting associate
  07/17/18
(dumbass)
Blue electric french chef crotch
  07/17/18
(guy who's never been to Buffalo or Schenectedy)
Rambunctious exciting associate
  07/17/18
Buffalo is gentrifying rapidly
mewling corner volcanic crater
  07/17/18
On the most relative of bases, yes. I follow along on the N...
Rambunctious exciting associate
  07/17/18
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Domesticated Shitlib Orchestra Pit
  07/17/18
I dunno about NYC specifically but choose a firm by who you ...
brilliant heady people who are hurt personal credit line
  07/17/18
What are your goals? Do you enjoy grinding hard and working...
henna soul-stirring weed whacker
  07/17/18
cravath sends a ton of people to lazard. this is inapplicabl...
Cyan heaven
  07/18/18
cleary is tcr if you can handle the office gays
Buff immigrant
  07/18/18
You mean the male secretaries ?
Buck-toothed kitchen indirect expression
  07/18/18


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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:08 PM
Author: Bateful burgundy ceo parlour

Is Cravath worth it?

Wachtell or some other above market?

What’s the difference between DP, S&C, PW, etc

Everything seems awful

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447328)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:09 PM
Author: cracking fuchsia messiness

I almost teared up at this poa.

Hearkens back to a simpler time on are bort.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447332)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: charismatic chad



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447383)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:20 PM
Author: Bateful burgundy ceo parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447427)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: lascivious love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453689)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:10 PM
Author: mewling corner volcanic crater

choose wachtell because it pays a lot more than other firms. choose cravath because it's very selective and "prestigious." SullCrom and DPW are peers. Skadden is not a good firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447344)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: cracking fuchsia messiness

Can you elaborate on the Skadden thing?

It does seem they take sort of TTT people...like T30 law review types. Not that that's bad, but like, it ain't WLRK.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447354)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Buck-toothed kitchen indirect expression

Those other four besides wachtell are all peers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447359)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: Rambunctious exciting associate

(Skadden associate)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447365)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: lascivious love of her life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453691)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:18 PM
Author: Maize painfully honest persian



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453930)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: Bateful burgundy ceo parlour

Is Cravath not impressive anymore?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447369)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:24 PM
Author: Buck-toothed kitchen indirect expression

No. Law students are a lot more savvy nowadays. Most people know that cravath doesn’t offer much more than other v5s

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447460)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:29 PM
Author: Bateful burgundy ceo parlour

Had that impression as well. If you were gonna go for broke and tough out a couple years for max benefits, where would it be? Does the choice just come down to pay these days?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447496)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:51 PM
Author: Buck-toothed kitchen indirect expression

Way too general a question bro. What do you want to do long term? Also are you flaming? Law students don’t really post here anymore

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447644)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: Bateful burgundy ceo parlour



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447575)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:12 PM
Author: Cyan heaven

cravath isn’t that selective relative to its peers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448240)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Rambunctious exciting associate

You're 12 years too late. The entire bort is now trying to figure out how to lateral to Jones Day in Cleveland, Columbus, or Pittsburgh.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447487)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:31 PM
Author: Blue electric french chef crotch

except for you, dumbass. and you're one of the only ones with a connection to a lifestyle market (Schenectady or whatever shithole you're from). yet you insist on living in paloturd altochink

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447510)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:32 PM
Author: cracking fuchsia messiness

Absolutely Devastating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447515)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: Buck-toothed kitchen indirect expression

That guy basically works 100% remote too, lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447524)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:39 PM
Author: Rambunctious exciting associate

Yes, but I can't just pick up and move wherever -- I'm still expected to be available to go to occasional meetings and meet with clients.

I could probably get away with traveling / working from somewhere else for a month or so at a time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447558)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:22 PM
Author: Buck-toothed kitchen indirect expression

Why not live somewhere cheaper in California? Maybe somewhere down the coast? I don’t see the point of living in Silicon Valley if you don’t even have to go into the office

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448297)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:55 PM
Author: Rambunctious exciting associate

Housing being expensive is working for us now that we own. Our $700k townhouse almost doubled, then we sold. Current house is up at least $1m from when we bought it a few years ago. This is pure luck and could all disappear so I haven't spent it, but I am hopeful that the house continues to appreciate.

The attraction to being in SV is also for wife's job and both of our future opportunities. We could probably sell, pocket some gains, and buy something less expensive in Paso or somewhere on the coast, but if either of us wanted to switch jobs or was forced to, it would be an issue. Much easier to find other comparable jobs in SF or SV than in SLO or Eureka or some place that's cheaper enough to make a move seem worth it.

Wife's parents are 20 mins away, too, and bought to be close to us. Moving away from them wouldn't be a popular decision.

Our daily life is also really nice: My wife has friends here, we can walk or bike to a bunch of parks, a few schools, a library, a couple of suburban downtowns, some grocery stores -- it's really not bad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448507)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:37 PM
Author: Rambunctious exciting associate

There are more factors in deciding where my wife, kid, and I live than where I grew up >20 years ago.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447546)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: Blue electric french chef crotch

(dumbass)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447566)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:44 PM
Author: Rambunctious exciting associate

(guy who's never been to Buffalo or Schenectedy)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447602)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: mewling corner volcanic crater

Buffalo is gentrifying rapidly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448231)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:15 PM
Author: Rambunctious exciting associate

On the most relative of bases, yes. I follow along on the News and Buffalo Rising. Will always be home to some degree.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448272)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: Domesticated Shitlib Orchestra Pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36447672)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: brilliant heady people who are hurt personal credit line

I dunno about NYC specifically but choose a firm by who you will actually do most of your work for

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448237)



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Date: July 17th, 2018 8:27 PM
Author: henna soul-stirring weed whacker

What are your goals?

Do you enjoy grinding hard and working? For example, are you the guy who color coded case briefs?

I see absolutely no benefit to Cravath. It's "prestigious" but all V20 firms are, so who cares. You work harder for nothing. If you're the color coded briefs guy, maybe it's for you.

Does Wachtell still pay 100% of salary as a bonus? If so, that's the obvious pick. Take the money.

Otherwise, pick a V10-V50 firm instead because (with some notable exceptions) you may work slightly less and you'll be around less gunners.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36448329)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: Cyan heaven

cravath sends a ton of people to lazard. this is inapplicable to 99.99999% of people here but it’s a real benefit over say s&c or cleary. as a general rule working at places non-lawyers have heard of maximizes your chances of actually getting the hell out of law

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453924)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: Buff immigrant

cleary is tcr if you can handle the office gays

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453359)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:05 PM
Author: Buck-toothed kitchen indirect expression

You mean the male secretaries ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4028651&forum_id=2#36453792)