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Shocker - Barack Obama endorsed the idea of universal basic income

This week, former U.S. president Barack Obama tentatively en...
Glittery up-to-no-good wrinkle goal in life
  07/18/18
I guess he never read Player Piano
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CR. Underrated.
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Subtle Milton Friedman trolling
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Eventually it will be a thing, but not until after a few war...
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Floppy thirsty home reading party
  07/18/18
why would a population cull drive automation and why would a...
Chestnut sickened boltzmann
  07/18/18
You are one dimwitted mofo
Vengeful copper house people who are hurt
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irate piazza
  07/18/18
touche
Chestnut sickened boltzmann
  07/18/18
So Player Piano?
exhilarant set
  07/18/18
It's gonna happen
Avocado Cracking Black Woman University
  07/18/18
Needs too.
navy medicated famous landscape painting
  07/18/18
As more and more low-skilled jobs become automated people ar...
Avocado Cracking Black Woman University
  07/18/18
Tech companies are pushing for UBI because they want you sit...
bateful regret old irish cottage
  07/18/18
Where are we going to get the money to pay them UBI when 99%...
arousing black principal's office
  07/18/18
do you think the tech companies give a fuck?
bateful regret old irish cottage
  07/18/18
Does this mean we can cut third worlder immigration off sinc...
rebellious crotch
  07/18/18
“It provides dignity and structure and a sense of place and ...
Appetizing stock car
  07/18/18
Barry should’ve never left the ivory tower. He’s just cluele...
demanding generalized bond theater
  07/18/18
he was referring to having a job. then he suggests considera...
angry range
  07/18/18
[guy who thinks bending over for Bob Dell is dignified]
supple useless brakes
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Glittery up-to-no-good wrinkle goal in life
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Flickering Indigo Crackhouse Haunted Graveyard
  07/18/18
In place lf welfare? Terrific. In additon to it? Disaster.
maize state french chef
  07/18/18
You know exactly what would happen. It would all get spent ...
Appetizing stock car
  07/18/18
this is why it will never happen. the money will get blown ...
Shimmering brunch fat ankles
  07/18/18
I think the consensus is that it would REPLACE welfare. ...
Avocado Cracking Black Woman University
  07/18/18
That won’t last a year before krugman is writing more articl...
Vengeful copper house people who are hurt
  07/18/18
They've already begun their war. So what's gonna change?
Avocado Cracking Black Woman University
  07/18/18
And when they do spend it all on meth? Because we know they...
Appetizing stock car
  07/18/18
"the reason they are poor is because they are stupid or...
Avocado Cracking Black Woman University
  07/18/18
Sorry it’s the truth faggot
massive cowardly kitchen headpube
  07/18/18
I’ll take this as you conceding UBI would be a mistake.
Appetizing stock car
  07/18/18
Nice Poast Moniker synergy.
Avocado Cracking Black Woman University
  07/18/18
Dude you never respond with any substance once the questions...
Appetizing stock car
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Flickering Indigo Crackhouse Haunted Graveyard
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lol, no. fucking shitlibs and their euphemisms. ubi is wel...
angry range
  07/18/18
UBI in lieu of other types of welfare would be about a milli...
maize state french chef
  07/18/18
yeah, and free steak in lieu of free porridge would be about...
angry range
  07/18/18
UBI would help solve the enormous problem of children out of...
maize state french chef
  07/18/18
why would he have incentive to prevent it under UBI. The chi...
Chestnut sickened boltzmann
  07/18/18
Because child support payments will come out of his UBI
maize state french chef
  07/18/18
how much support would be needed over and above the child's ...
Chestnut sickened boltzmann
  07/18/18
that defeats the purpose of ubi quit being a simple fuck an...
angry range
  07/18/18
It will cause food money to become drug money
Appetizing stock car
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Make a coherent argument and I’ll respond.
maize state french chef
  07/18/18
If I was on UBI, I would spend all my money on drugs and spe...
Razzle purple native
  07/18/18
Sounds to me the problem is moreso with your shitty decision...
Avocado Cracking Black Woman University
  07/18/18
I'm sure that, with no real incentive to work, things will w...
Razzle purple native
  07/18/18
That's going to be a genuine issue with any system: What ...
Avocado Cracking Black Woman University
  07/18/18
Well, god knows, don't give them incentive to work and spend...
Razzle purple native
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...
Flickering Indigo Crackhouse Haunted Graveyard
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Nothing.
Appetizing stock car
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to be fair this sounds 180
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You wouldn't though. Because you can do all that now a lot e...
maize state french chef
  07/18/18
you don't understand how child support works. it's like the ...
angry range
  07/18/18
Every word in this post is opposite of the truth.
Razzle purple native
  07/18/18
All those smart, hungry entrepreneurs that WOULD have starte...
Swollen Flushed Affirmative Action Digit Ratio
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sure, i'll be a janitor for $20/hr
angry range
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not sure you take my meaning brother
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"If you get a job then this will be supplemental income...
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Why would they need to jack up taxes if welfare and other sa...
Avocado Cracking Black Woman University
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because it would cost way more. people would just stop work...
Mind-boggling mentally impaired nursing home
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Ok, collect your check that is designed to provide you with ...
Avocado Cracking Black Woman University
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so your concept of ubi is that it is just enough to survive ...
angry range
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L O fuckin L that other forms of welfare are going away. Do...
Razzle purple native
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Given the unpopularity of trump, democrats could run on this...
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Hopefully the latter
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"Or, they could really see how this white genocide thin...
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Tell us what America looks like when it’s 20% white.
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Idra I’m genuinely curious about your response to this. If y...
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Only about 30% of NYC's population is non-hispanic white. An...
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Frighteningly low IQ poast
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demanding generalized bond theater
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That's not relevant to the question posed. Try again.
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it's also a "police state," per most libs. without...
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Haha wow holy shit
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there are strong conservative economic arguments for this. p...
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maize state french chef
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Explain pls
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http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&fo...
maize state french chef
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getting your ass raped is not a strong conservative argument
angry range
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Shitlib is gonna shitlib. UBI ain't gonna happen, at least ...
Razzle purple native
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"basic income" is just another way to say welfare ...
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demanding generalized bond theater
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Yes but its a welfare that is much better structured than th...
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i'm sure it would be implemented in the exact manner they de...
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Date: July 18th, 2018 12:11 PM
Author: Glittery up-to-no-good wrinkle goal in life

This week, former U.S. president Barack Obama tentatively endorsed the idea of a universal basic income. The fortune of another American, Amazon founder Jeff Bezos, reached $150 billion. Could Bezos and his peers make the UBI dream work?

“It’s not just money that a job provides,” Obama said in his Nelson Mandela Lecture in Johannesburg on Tuesday, after mentioning the threat new technology poses to jobs. “It provides dignity and structure and a sense of place and a sense of purpose. So we’re going to have to consider new ways of thinking about these problems, like a universal income, review of our workweek, how we retrain our young people, how we make everybody an entrepreneur at some level.”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36451960)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:15 PM
Author: wine space

I guess he never read Player Piano

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452888)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:33 PM
Author: exhilarant set

CR. Underrated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456882)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: Bisexual aphrodisiac field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456905)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 12:12 PM
Author: electric weed whacker karate

Subtle Milton Friedman trolling

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36451967)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: Gay Stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36451971)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:24 PM
Author: aromatic mewling travel guidebook



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456419)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 12:13 PM
Author: fluffy bespoke macaca

Eventually it will be a thing, but not until after a few wars to cull the population and drive extreme automation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36451973)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 12:21 PM
Author: Floppy thirsty home reading party



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452015)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:06 PM
Author: Chestnut sickened boltzmann

why would a population cull drive automation and why would a reduction in labor supply on account of war deaths precipitate a universal basic income

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452348)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:09 PM
Author: Vengeful copper house people who are hurt

You are one dimwitted mofo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452373)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:36 PM
Author: irate piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452545)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:42 PM
Author: Chestnut sickened boltzmann

touche

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452589)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:34 PM
Author: exhilarant set

So Player Piano?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456886)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 12:16 PM
Author: Avocado Cracking Black Woman University

It's gonna happen

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36451986)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: navy medicated famous landscape painting

Needs too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452003)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:27 PM
Author: Avocado Cracking Black Woman University

As more and more low-skilled jobs become automated people are going to be SOL and out of work.

People aren't doing Uber/AirBnB because it's FUN AND EXCITING, they're doing it b/c they need more money than their shitjobs are willing to pay.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452476)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: bateful regret old irish cottage

Tech companies are pushing for UBI because they want you sitting at home clicking ads.

Can't click ads when you're at work and Facebook is blocked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36451999)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: arousing black principal's office

Where are we going to get the money to pay them UBI when 99% of the population is sitting at home on their ass?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36455440)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 8:10 PM
Author: bateful regret old irish cottage

do you think the tech companies give a fuck?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36455449)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: rebellious crotch

Does this mean we can cut third worlder immigration off since the UBI can supplement low income American jobs?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452341)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:06 PM
Author: Appetizing stock car

“It provides dignity and structure and a sense of place and a sense of purpose.”

Actually it removes all of these Barry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452355)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: demanding generalized bond theater

Barry should’ve never left the ivory tower. He’s just clueless about IRL

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452364)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:39 PM
Author: angry range

he was referring to having a job. then he suggests consideration of ubi which accomplishes none of these things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452560)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:47 PM
Author: supple useless brakes

[guy who thinks bending over for Bob Dell is dignified]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452622)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:51 PM
Author: Glittery up-to-no-good wrinkle goal in life



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452651)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: Flickering Indigo Crackhouse Haunted Graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456878)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:15 PM
Author: maize state french chef

In place lf welfare? Terrific. In additon to it? Disaster.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452415)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:27 PM
Author: Appetizing stock car

You know exactly what would happen. It would all get spent on drugs and kids would wind up homeless and hungry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452481)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:09 PM
Author: Shimmering brunch fat ankles

this is why it will never happen. the money will get blown and rent will still be due and the cupboards will be bare.

not to mention all the people that are employed in the handout industry.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36455161)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:28 PM
Author: Avocado Cracking Black Woman University

I think the consensus is that it would REPLACE welfare.

No additional govt support. Here's your check, don't spend it all on meth.

If you get a job then this will be supplemental income, but at the very least you will not starve.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452483)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:29 PM
Author: Vengeful copper house people who are hurt

That won’t last a year before krugman is writing more articles about the gop’s hatred of and war on the poor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452495)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:32 PM
Author: Avocado Cracking Black Woman University

They've already begun their war. So what's gonna change?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452513)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:34 PM
Author: Appetizing stock car

And when they do spend it all on meth? Because we know they will because the reason they are poor is because they are stupid or have no impulse control. You’ll just say too bad as their kids starve in the streets?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452527)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:35 PM
Author: Avocado Cracking Black Woman University

"the reason they are poor is because they are stupid or have no impulse control"

That's a totally rational and HINGED belief to have.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452536)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:40 PM
Author: massive cowardly kitchen headpube

Sorry it’s the truth faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452570)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:40 PM
Author: Appetizing stock car

I’ll take this as you conceding UBI would be a mistake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452573)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Avocado Cracking Black Woman University

Nice Poast Moniker synergy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454113)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 8:12 PM
Author: Appetizing stock car

Dude you never respond with any substance once the questions get about the 95 IQ level. You’re really a terrible poaster

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36455472)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:33 PM
Author: Flickering Indigo Crackhouse Haunted Graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456881)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:44 PM
Author: angry range

lol, no.

fucking shitlibs and their euphemisms.

ubi is welfare. it will fix few, if any, problems. it will cause new problems.

it 100% will cause greater problems than it solves because its only guaranteed result will be to disincentivize capitalism and all of its tried and true benefits for those who otherwise would be inclined to be more self-sufficient



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452602)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:47 PM
Author: maize state french chef

UBI in lieu of other types of welfare would be about a million times better.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452624)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:08 PM
Author: angry range

yeah, and free steak in lieu of free porridge would be about a million times better, too

why in the flying fuck should you specifically get ubi?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452802)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:50 PM
Author: maize state french chef

UBI would help solve the enormous problem of children out of wedlock. The incentive right now is to have children out of wedlock because you are paid to do so. The father has no incentive to prevent it because what risk is there in paying child support if you have no job. UBI solves all that.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452643)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:06 PM
Author: Chestnut sickened boltzmann

why would he have incentive to prevent it under UBI. The children will receive their sustenance from uncle sam

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452784)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: maize state french chef

Because child support payments will come out of his UBI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452828)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:11 PM
Author: Chestnut sickened boltzmann

how much support would be needed over and above the child's UBI

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452837)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: angry range

that defeats the purpose of ubi

quit being a simple fuck and think this through. it can't work long term because it's socialism and it's not based on an endless supply of natural resources, but others' work.

it will cause inflation, it will cause resentment, it will cause..etc etc etc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452872)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:15 PM
Author: Appetizing stock car

It will cause food money to become drug money

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452887)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:24 PM
Author: maize state french chef

Make a coherent argument and I’ll respond.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452940)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: Razzle purple native

If I was on UBI, I would spend all my money on drugs and spend all my time making illegitimate children. If experience shows anything, there's a large percentage of men who will do the same.

If I'm on UBI, I would get on xoxo, high as shit, talk about all the nasty fat bitches I was fucking, and every other line would be "U: POST." I'd do this until BS and I nod off together from the opioids, because hey, if I'm not working, I've got the time to go meet up with that minx.

Also, yes, my Wife would not like this at all, but with UBI, and my not working, fuck it, what do I have to lose. Gone are the old days where I would get alimony fucked, etc. She'd just have to deal, which again, for her, wouldn't be that big of deal because she's got UBI.

Basically, there's no real incentive to be a responsible human being at all, because fuck it, UBI. It's taken care of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454077)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Avocado Cracking Black Woman University

Sounds to me the problem is moreso with your shitty decision-making skills and all-around life and less to do with UBI.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454134)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:45 PM
Author: Razzle purple native

I'm sure that, with no real incentive to work, things will work out great for all involved.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454173)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:46 PM
Author: Avocado Cracking Black Woman University

That's going to be a genuine issue with any system:

What do you do with the lazy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454182)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:48 PM
Author: Razzle purple native

Well, god knows, don't give them incentive to work and spend their time productively. Just give them money instead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454197)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: Flickering Indigo Crackhouse Haunted Graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456887)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: Appetizing stock car

Nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36455457)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:27 PM
Author: Cocky Light Locus Patrolman

to be fair this sounds 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36455250)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:54 PM
Author: maize state french chef

You wouldn't though. Because you can do all that now a lot easier and have it all paid for, but you dont.

You could quit your job now and get on unemployment benefits. Its incredibly easy to do that which you probably know.

On unemployment, you could stop paying your health insurance premiums and get your family on medicaid right now.

You could get your family on food stamps right now, but you don't.

You could get a section 8 voucher and stop paying your mortgage.

You could go shoot up now and get that high but you don't.

All of this money already exists for you - UBI is just structuring it differently to incentivize better behavior.

Under UBI, you wouldn't have tons of illegitimate children because child support would be taken directly from your UBI, which means less money for you and which you want to avoid. You will wrap it up.

UBI would also be something meager like $1k a month. Something that allows you to live, but not well. You would get a job if you had an ounce of ambition to get to the middle class, but you would be struggling, you would never take a vacation, and life would be tough. But if you stay together with your wife, that is now $24k per year. And if you and your wife get even minimum wage jobs, that is $60-65k per year for your family, now we're talking. But with the current welfare programs, it makes more sense to not even work at all than to work a minimum wage job.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456975)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: angry range

you don't understand how child support works. it's like the terminator.

it gets ordered and just because you might be able to get it lowered if you aren't working, you'll still owe it. and it will never go away. it will keep coming. it will keep earning interest. it's like student loans on steroids.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452834)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:18 PM
Author: Razzle purple native

Every word in this post is opposite of the truth.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452911)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:09 PM
Author: Swollen Flushed Affirmative Action Digit Ratio

All those smart, hungry entrepreneurs that WOULD have started a company but for their $1500/mo. stipend.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452819)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:12 PM
Author: angry range

sure, i'll be a janitor for $20/hr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452850)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:13 PM
Author: Swollen Flushed Affirmative Action Digit Ratio

not sure you take my meaning brother

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452862)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:41 PM
Author: Mind-boggling mentally impaired nursing home

"If you get a job then this will be supplemental income"

lol there is a less than 0% chance anyone with an actual job would see a dime of this. if anything the govt would raise taxes on people with like $55K HHI just to be able to give this to the unemployeds.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454129)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:43 PM
Author: Avocado Cracking Black Woman University

Why would they need to jack up taxes if welfare and other safety nets were dissolved in place of UBI?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454147)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:44 PM
Author: Mind-boggling mentally impaired nursing home

because it would cost way more. people would just stop working and collect their checks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454159)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:47 PM
Author: Avocado Cracking Black Woman University

Ok, collect your check that is designed to provide you with just enough to survive.

If you want MORE (bigger house, nicer car, better clothes, higher quality of hookers) you'll need to go out a get a job.

You can either eat this porridge for free, or you can get a job and can enjoy steak.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454193)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 5:57 PM
Author: angry range

so your concept of ubi is that it is just enough to survive

so, you'd agree that one couldn't be ordered to pay child support out of it?

you'd agree that it would have to be changed to keep up with inflation.

do you agree that it will necessarily cause inflation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454759)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 8:13 PM
Author: Razzle purple native

L O fuckin L that other forms of welfare are going away. Do you have any idea how many people are employed in this industry?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36455479)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:32 PM
Author: Racy Selfie

Given the unpopularity of trump, democrats could run on this and take control for a long time if they also compromised a bit on immigration (i.e. path to amnesty plus wall/e-verify). Or, they could really see how this white genocide thing plays out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452516)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:34 PM
Author: Appetizing stock car

Hopefully the latter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452530)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:34 PM
Author: Avocado Cracking Black Woman University

"Or, they could really see how this white genocide thing plays out."

A society grows great when old men plant trees whose shade they know they shall never sit in.

DEMS just need to play the long game with Whitey.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452533)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: Appetizing stock car

Tell us what America looks like when it’s 20% white.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452582)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:45 PM
Author: razzmatazz azn

https://wikitravel.org/en/South_Africa#Stay_safe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452605)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:48 PM
Author: maize state french chef

Idra I’m genuinely curious about your response to this. If you think it will be much better, explain why.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452632)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:24 PM
Author: fluffy bespoke macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456414)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:52 PM
Author: wild stead

Only about 30% of NYC's population is non-hispanic white. And it is safer and more prosperous than it has ever been.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452658)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: razzmatazz azn

Frighteningly low IQ poast

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452675)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: Flesh Indian Lodge Laser Beams



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452772)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:23 PM
Author: fluffy bespoke macaca



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456409)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:27 PM
Author: aromatic mewling travel guidebook

Actually it's high IQ because he's a disgusting, genocidal Jew that just wants all white people to die but dresses it up with the sort of birdbrained optimism you get out of an article in The Economist.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456437)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:55 PM
Author: demanding generalized bond theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456981)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:02 PM
Author: Appetizing stock car

That's not relevant to the question posed. Try again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452746)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Awkward charismatic whorehouse associate

it's also a "police state," per most libs. without the current 'fascism' that is NYC criminal law/procedure it would be the 80s again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454110)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:28 PM
Author: buff mental disorder

Haha wow holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456449)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:51 PM
Author: Citrine bull headed senate shitlib

there are strong conservative economic arguments for this. people need to educate themselves on it more before just dismissing it outright because they think it sounds like socialism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452652)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:52 PM
Author: maize state french chef

Cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452659)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: dull beady-eyed antidepressant drug sound barrier

Explain pls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452665)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: maize state french chef

http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452643

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452669)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 7:04 PM
Author: angry range

getting your ass raped is not a strong conservative argument

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36455135)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 2:09 PM
Author: Razzle purple native

Shitlib is gonna shitlib. UBI ain't gonna happen, at least not on federal level.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36452816)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 4:35 PM
Author: Mind-boggling mentally impaired nursing home

"basic income" is just another way to say welfare and no, you won't get any of it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36454082)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:56 PM
Author: demanding generalized bond theater

titcr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456983)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: maize state french chef

Yes but its a welfare that is much better structured than the welfare programs now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456987)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 9:07 AM
Author: Mind-boggling mentally impaired nursing home

i'm sure it would be implemented in the exact manner they describe at these globalist circlejerk conventions.

they could just fix the current welfare structure if it's so bad. this is just shits like obama wanting to remove the term welfare the same way they do with illegal immigrants and global warming.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36457975)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 10:28 PM
Author: aromatic mewling travel guidebook

Wow I wonder why he never tried to implement this while he was in office and just gave GE full tax exemptions and let HSBC launder money instead.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456450)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 11:56 PM
Author: demanding generalized bond theater



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029256&forum_id=2#36456984)