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i wonder why half of "prestige" tv shows have graphic gay sex scenes

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Ebony Cuckoldry Institution
  07/18/18
the other half only have gratuitous full frontal male nudity...
salmon ladyboy
  07/18/18
They draw inspiration from this bort
nubile red associate
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startled ratface circlehead
  07/18/18
Because it's 180 to see a guy get buttfucked up the ass
Sooty gaming laptop pozpig
  07/18/18
odd case
Violent new version garrison
  07/18/18
'American Gods’ Just Aired TV’s Most Explicit Gay Sex Scene ...
salmon ladyboy
  07/18/18
"It’s an example of why more of these scenes are needed...
Wild Step-uncle's House Masturbator
  07/18/18
yeah trying to put my finger on it
flushed messiness international law enforcement agency
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spectacular fishy stead really tough guy
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chocolate hideous headpube principal's office
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Mind-boggling copper set
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Ebony Cuckoldry Institution
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Sickened embarrassed to the bone fortuitous meteor
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Hairraiser Gold Corn Cake
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startled ratface circlehead
  07/18/18
libs, you are seriously all going to fucking hang for this s...
Magenta vivacious chad den
  07/18/18
what in the fuck
Charismatic slippery theater ceo
  07/18/18
Neil Gaiman's family is of Polish-Jewish and other Eastern E...
salmon ladyboy
  07/18/18
What are the chances?
brass kink-friendly area
  07/18/18
Gaiman is married to songwriter and performer Amanda Palmer,...
salmon ladyboy
  07/18/18
In 2016, Gaiman appeared in the video "What They Took W...
salmon ladyboy
  07/18/18
Jews you really gotta start calling your mentally ill brethr...
olive locale
  07/19/18
Progress is measured in watershed moments. Progress is measu...
flushed messiness international law enforcement agency
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chocolate hideous headpube principal's office
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Ebony Cuckoldry Institution
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brass kink-friendly area
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startled ratface circlehead
  07/19/18
Progress is measured in gay cumpilations
jade boyish doctorate
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Hairraiser Gold Corn Cake
  07/18/18
I think we've all seen gay porn before. Does this guy want a...
Trip crimson dopamine idea he suggested
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Date: July 18th, 2018 8:58 PM
Author: Ebony Cuckoldry Institution



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Date: July 18th, 2018 8:59 PM
Author: salmon ladyboy

the other half only have gratuitous full frontal male nudity and implied gay sex scenes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029723&forum_id=2#36455725)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 8:59 PM
Author: nubile red associate

They draw inspiration from this bort

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Date: July 18th, 2018 8:59 PM
Author: startled ratface circlehead



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: Sooty gaming laptop pozpig

Because it's 180 to see a guy get buttfucked up the ass

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029723&forum_id=2#36455745)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: Violent new version garrison

odd case

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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: salmon ladyboy

'American Gods’ Just Aired TV’s Most Explicit Gay Sex Scene Ever

Starz’s timely adaptation of Neil Gaiman’s American Gods depicts two men having explicit (and, yes, very hot) gay sex. And the men also happen to be Muslim.

American Gods has been called, by various critics, “the most important show on TV,” a show that “couldn’t be more timely,” and, by The Daily Beast’s Melissa Leon, “a celebration of immigrants in the face of Trumpism.”

Adding to those superlatives—and underlining its importance—Sunday night’s episode featured the most graphic gay sex scene there has ever been on TV. And it happened to be between two men who are Muslim.

Progress is measured in watershed moments.

Billy Crystal plays the first openly gay TV character on Soap. Ellen is first the openly gay lead of a sitcom. Kurt and Blaine lose their virginity on Glee. Mitch and Cam get married on Modern Family.

“Gay” shows like Queer as Folk, The L Word, and Looking depict gay sex that is actually hot, How to Get Away With Murder features anilingus in primetime, and, now, two Muslim men go at it for four intense, romantic, boner-filled minutes on American Gods. (Folks, you see the boner.)

It’s incredibly sexy. And, yes, every second of it is important, down to the part where one guy ejaculates flames into the other.

The sequence in question occurs during a narrative interlude that introduces Salim (Omad Abtahi), a man from Oman who is in New York City selling tourist trinkets. He’s having a shitty day. He’s been waiting all day for a meeting with a guy who refuses to see him. It’s pouring outside. He can’t get a cab.

A taxi finally picks him up, and it is driven by an Ifrit (Mousa Kraish)—a supernatural figure in Middle Eastern stories and Islamic lore who is considered to be among the most powerful of jinns.

The other thing about an Ifrit: His eyes are burning flames.

The two vent to each other about their lives moving from the Middle East to New York. “They know nothing about my people here,” the Ifrit says. “They think all we do is grant wishes. If I could grant a wish do you think I would be driving a cab?”

They share an immediate, powerful compassion. They touch hands and it goes beyond just being sweet. It’s arousingly intimate.

Salim invites the Ifrit back to his hotel. In the elevator, they hold hands. Once in the room, the Ifrit showers and emerges from the bathroom with a towel around his waist. He drops the towel, the flames in his eyes start flickering intensely, and there it is: a full-frontal shot of his penis.

That alone would be a milestone. But it’s just the beginning.

The Ifrit undresses Salim, who has tears in his eyes. “I do not grant wishes,” the Ifrit says. “But you do,” Salim replies.

Salim starts performing oral sex on the Ifrit, but he wants to kiss on the lips first. Then the thing you almost never see starts: Two naked men start making out on a bed. You see their penises; there is no clever or artful attempt to disguise them. As they roll around, you see the men as you would if you were in the room.

They start having sex. In multiple positions! By this point, it is already one of the most realistic depictions of gay sex that has been staged on a television series. When the scene gets its most graphic, however, is when it is forced to take a step away from reality—one would assume to adhere to television standards.

The action is transported to a faraway desert where Salim and the Ifrit become CGI versions of themselves in greyish silhouettes. They continue having sex with the Ifrit thrusting while Salim is laying on his back, the CGI version of his erection flopping against his stomach as the Ifrit eventually ejaculates flames into him.

All told, the sex scene lasts for four full minutes. Four minutes of explicit, erotic, meaningful, arousing gay sex.

When it was announced that American Gods was being adapted for TV, fans of Neil Gaiman’s 2001 book wondered whether the scene would be included in the series. For one thing, a screenwriter could conceivably cut interludes like the one involving Salim from the series entirely because they are not directly a part of the main narrative. Then, of course, there’s the graphic nature of the scene and TV’s traditional reticence toward gay sexuality.

Gay romance, specifically the physicalization of it, is certainly more visible now than it’s ever been. Same-sex couples kiss onscreen, even passionately. And where gay characters kissing then having sex was once never considered a possibility, or was simply alluded to with a cut of the camera, sex scenes are becoming more frequent as well.

But these scenes are certainly never as explicit or as long as the ones between straight couples. Mechanically, they are often… incorrect. Or at least unrealistic, in terms of how gay men actually have sex.

Depicting gay sex is still largely uncharted territory, both for the people producing the content and the audiences consuming it.

And when a show like Girls, with its Season 5 sex scene between Andrew Rannells’s Elijah and Corey Stoll’s Dill, does feature believable, for lack of a better word, “choreography,” it is often fleeting: mid-coitus, several thrusts, cut away.

Rarely is there foreplay, or disrobing, or the point of entry shown. (Looking and Queer as Folk are exceptions, but two exceptions don’t disprove a rule.)

Sex scenes serve a dual purpose in narrative content like TV and film: to deepen characterizations and the story, and, yes, to titillate. When sex scenes between gay characters aren’t given the screen time necessary to develop, they don’t achieve the same sense of intimacy or insight, not to mention the same boner-popping sexiness.

But if a lengthy gay sex scene is rare, even rarer is one involving people of color.

We won’t go into the significance of this landmark scene featuring Muslim characters because, frankly, we aren’t educated enough on the nuances of that to speak on it.

But just as there was when Gaiman wrote his book, there is a significance to that scene now, particularly when you consider that, whether it’s a same-gender or mixed-gender pairing, there are few—and perhaps even no—instances of Muslim characters depicted as sexual on TV. Let alone in a scene like this one.

It should be no surprise, though it is certainly a shame, that this was the first sex scene, gay or otherwise, that Kraish, who plays the Ifrit, has ever filmed. “Sex scene aside, just seeing two Middle Eastern men represented in that way—with humor and love and joy... It’s taken me 11 years to get to that,” he said at a GLAAD-hosted panel for American Gods last week.

American Gods was clearly never going to shy away from graphic sex scenes. That much was clear from the first episode, which depicted the goddess Bilquis enveloping a man having sex with her into her vagina, just as it was portrayed in the book. But the truth is, this is still a culture that would see that as television-appropriate but not two guys screwing.

Maybe that theory is owed to the fact that this is still largely uncharted territory.

For instance, Girls’ Andrew Rannells has spoken about how he had to serve as a sort-of on-set coach on the mechanics of two men having sex. Jonathan Groff, who starred on Looking, told The Daily Beast that some of his straight friends didn’t even know that gay men could have sex in the missionary position until they saw it on the series.

That perhaps makes the greatest case that, while it’s fun and all to see hot celebrities naked and having sex, these scenes can also be educational. It’s an example of why more of these scenes are needed to help normalize gay sex.

There is power in seeing yourself on TV. In seeing the possibility of pleasure. In seeing pleasure without shame. In seeing four minutes of two men having graphic gay sex on a show called American Gods.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029723&forum_id=2#36455794)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:19 PM
Author: Wild Step-uncle's House Masturbator

"It’s an example of why more of these scenes are needed to help normalize gay sex."

there's a word for this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029723&forum_id=2#36455887)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:29 PM
Author: flushed messiness international law enforcement agency

yeah trying to put my finger on it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029723&forum_id=2#36455985)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:31 PM
Author: spectacular fishy stead really tough guy



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:31 PM
Author: chocolate hideous headpube principal's office



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:49 PM
Author: Mind-boggling copper set



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:52 PM
Author: Ebony Cuckoldry Institution



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029723&forum_id=2#36456146)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:54 PM
Author: Sickened embarrassed to the bone fortuitous meteor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029723&forum_id=2#36456166)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:55 PM
Author: Hairraiser Gold Corn Cake



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:28 PM
Author: startled ratface circlehead



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:31 PM
Author: Magenta vivacious chad den

libs, you are seriously all going to fucking hang for this shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029723&forum_id=2#36456005)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:33 PM
Author: Charismatic slippery theater ceo

what in the fuck

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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:46 PM
Author: salmon ladyboy

Neil Gaiman's family is of Polish-Jewish and other Eastern European-Jewish origins;[10]



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029723&forum_id=2#36456115)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:49 PM
Author: brass kink-friendly area

What are the chances?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029723&forum_id=2#36456129)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:53 PM
Author: salmon ladyboy

Gaiman is married to songwriter and performer Amanda Palmer, with whom he has an open marriage.[117]

On marrying Palmer, he took her middle name, MacKinnon, as one of his names.[4]

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029723&forum_id=2#36456152)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:54 PM
Author: salmon ladyboy

In 2016, Gaiman appeared in the video "What They Took With Them", from the United Nations' refugee agency UNHCR, to help raise awareness of the issue of global refugees.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029723&forum_id=2#36456159)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 2:26 AM
Author: olive locale

Jews you really gotta start calling your mentally ill brethren out on this shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029723&forum_id=2#36457481)



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: flushed messiness international law enforcement agency

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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: chocolate hideous headpube principal's office



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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Ebony Cuckoldry Institution

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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:47 PM
Author: brass kink-friendly area



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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:47 PM
Author: startled ratface circlehead



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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:50 PM
Author: jade boyish doctorate

Progress is measured in gay cumpilations

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Date: July 18th, 2018 9:54 PM
Author: Hairraiser Gold Corn Cake



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Date: July 19th, 2018 2:29 AM
Author: Trip crimson dopamine idea he suggested

I think we've all seen gay porn before. Does this guy want a cookie or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4029723&forum_id=2#36457488)