Why are the Chinese so unethical?
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:25 PM Author: beta anal generalized bond
The more I read about China, the more it seems like an alien dystopia. Can you imagine if a country with such low collective character becomes the most powerful in the world? It is sad the West can't get its shit together and resist while we still can.
https://marginalrevolution.com/marginalrevolution/2018/07/christopher-balding-leaving-china.html?utm_source=dlvr.it&utm_medium=twitter
There is a complete and utter lack of respect for the individual or person in China. People do not have innate value as people simply because they exist.
This leads most directly to a lack of respect for the law/rules/norms....
They are ignored quietly so as not to embarrass the enforcer, however, frequently, the enforcer knows rules or laws are being ignored but so long as the breaker is not egregious, both parties continue to exist in a state of blissful ignorance. Honesty without force is not normal but an outlier. Lying is utterly common, but telling the truth revolutionary.
I rationalize the silent contempt for the existing rules and laws within China as people not respecting the method for creating and establishing the rules and laws. Rather than confronting the system, a superior, or try good faith attempts to change something, they choose a type of quiet subversion by just ignoring the rule or law. This quickly spreads to virtually every facet of behavior as everything can be rationalized in a myriad of ways. Before coming to China, I had this idea that China was rigid which in some ways it is, but in reality it is brutally chaotic because there are no rules it is the pure rule of the jungle with unconstrained might imposing their will and all others ignoring laws to behave as they see fit with no sense of morality or respect for right.
I had a lawyer tell me about the corruption crackdown, and even most convicted of crimes, that people referred to them as “unlucky”. As he noted, there was almost no concept of justice even if people recognized the person had done what they were accused of having done. The discipline stemmed not from their behavior but they were cannon fodder for some game chosen by a higher authority."
I am afraid this is how most of the world works. Not just China.
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Date: July 19th, 2018 4:26 PM Author: beta anal generalized bond
Not me individually, but the West and the US's Asian allies could collectively wage a successful trade war with China. We should be confronting them every way we can.
https://www.wsj.com/articles/the-trade-wars-of-2018-an-alternate-history-1528672886
Looking back from 2020, it was a masterful application of strategy and tactics that enabled Donald Trump to win the trade war with China.
The U.S. president began unencumbered by the “engage with China at any cost” ideology of his predecessors and, as a seasoned deal maker, recognized that success required leverage, which came from having allies.
In 2018, success was by no means assured. When U.S. officials met their Chinese counterparts that year, China was confident it could wear down Mr. Trump as it had his predecessors by making grandiose promises of reform, offering to buy more American coal, soybeans and natural gas to narrow the trade deficit, and threatening to withhold cooperation on North Korea.
Mr. Trump’s aides had persuaded him the real problem with China was not the trade deficit but how China’s mercantilist state capitalism systematically discriminated against foreign products in China and forced foreign companies to give up their most precious intellectual property. That would cost Americans highly paid jobs when Chinese competitors shut them out in the fastest-growing markets of the future.
U.S. demands reflected that: If China didn’t change its behavior, the U.S. would ban Chinese companies from acquisitions of joint ventures with or substantial investments in any U.S. technology company, ban Chinese entities from supplying U.S. telecommunications networks, and subject all Chinese investment to strict reciprocity—i.e., the same restrictions that U.S. companies faced in China.
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China assumed it could undercut the U.S. as it always had, by playing its allies off against it. But instead it encountered a united front. At a pivotal G-7 meeting, Canada, the European Union and Japan said they would join the U.S. in an unprecedented case at the World Trade Organization alleging extensive and undisclosed domestic subsidies had “nullified or impaired” the benefits China’s accession was meant to bring to its partners.
Emmanuel Macron, France’s president, had also persuaded the EU, Canada and Japan to match the U.S.’s ban on Chinese technology investments and its policy of strict reciprocity on investment. To slow China’s efforts to build a national champion in aviation at their expense, the G-7 agreed to ban joint ventures and further outsourcing to China by their own aviation companies.
The united front was possible because Mr. Trump’s aides had persuaded him to set aside irritants with U.S. allies by striking deals that let all sides declare victory. On the WTO, members agreed to shorten the time it took to achieve final rulings, which had allowed illegal behavior to persist, and to narrow the sweep of its appeals panel’s rulings, which the U.S. had long complained undermined its sovereignty.
On the North American Free Trade Agreement, Canada and Mexico acceded to U.S. demands for higher North American content for autos and a minimum amount to be built by workers earning at least $16 an hour. But Mr. Trump dropped demands for a five-year sunset to the agreement and agreed to keep Chapter 19, which allows anti-dumping and countervailing duties to be appealed to a binational panel.
Canada agreed to slowly phase out quotas on dairy imports in return for the U.S.’s doing the same on softwood lumber. Mr. Trump downgraded his Mexican border wall to a barrier and stopped insisting that Mexico would pay for it; in return, Mexico amended asylum laws to no longer let Central American refugees transit through Mexico to enter the U.S.
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Since the U.S. and its allies acknowledged China was the source of global oversupply in steel and aluminum, they formed a joint monitoring program to stop Chinese metal from being “transshipped” through third countries to evade each other’s duties.
As the U.S. noose tightened, China retaliated: U.S. companies suddenly found their applications to expand in China being slow-walked, and U.S. exports of car parts and agricultural products were held up at Chinese ports for bogus health and safety infractions. The U.S. responded by announcing a “Section 301” investigation that would hit China with escalating tariffs for its nontariff trade barriers.
China also stepped up purchases of dollars in an effort to push down the value of the yuan, which would make its exports cheaper abroad. The U.S. Treasury responded by authorizing offsetting purchases of yuan.
China, boxed in on trade, played its foreign-policy card. At its prompting, North Korea broke off negotiations on admitting international weapons inspectors, which was to be a key step toward denuclearization. In response, the U.S. declared it would seek to expand missile defenses in Japan and South Korea, step up naval patrols off North Korea and ask Vietnam to host a new U.S. naval base. China, alarmed at the prospect of a growing U.S. military presence on its doorstop, nudged North Korea back to the negotiating table.
By 2019, Chinese officials capitulated. They announced an end to joint-venture requirements, a phased elimination of limits on foreign investment, tariff cuts in critical sectors including automobiles, and a phased-in move to a fully flexible exchange rate.
China would still become an advanced industrial nation, but it would have to share more of the benefits with its foreign partners. China 2025, its ambitious plan to become self-sufficient in top technology, was quietly renamed China 2035.
As U.S. companies’ sales abroad boomed, they teamed up with the federal government to retrain thousands of former factory workers for high-paying, high-skilled jobs. Mr. Trump had, as promised, fixed the global trading system by relying as the U.S. always had, on alliance-building.
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:27 PM Author: lime stock car
they aren't unethical, they're just chinese. their moral system, values, and way of life are completely different from the west
calling chinese people "unethical" and "immoral" is like calling lions unethical because they kill other animals and eat them. they're totally different than us and comparing us along moral lines is silly and pointless
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:30 PM Author: beta anal generalized bond
They are still human - most societies don't have ethical belief systems like the Chinese. Western ethics and society are so obviously superior, it would be a tragedy for the human race if the Chinese achieve their aims.
In how many countries does shit like this happen?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JhvwUo0M7W0
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Date: July 19th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: Exhilarant quadroon pozpig
"They are still human"
this is what we call "begging the question" in the technical literature
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:34 PM Author: Big hall goal in life
It's a country with an astonishingly violent history - probably the worst in the entire world. So a lot of psychological scarring.
You see it with the "Lost Generation" who didn't get educated because they were caught up in the Cultural Revolution. They're the ones who bullied their kids into practicing piano and all that garbage. But they're mouth-breathing retards who treat education like a cargo cult.
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Date: July 19th, 2018 12:55 PM Author: lascivious trailer park
when the communists took over, they did away with chinese culture, leaving nothing behind
just look at kikes and niggers. what do they stand for? what do they believe in?
japan and south korea are images of what china would resemble if it remained confucian.
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Date: July 19th, 2018 4:09 PM Author: Vigorous ocher water buffalo lettuce
he "Four Pests" campaign was introduced in 1958 by Mao Zedong, as a hygiene campaign aimed to eradicate the pests responsible for the transmission of pestilence and disease: the mosquitos responsible for malaria; the rodents that spread the plague; the pervasive airborne flies; and the sparrows – specifically the Eurasian tree sparrow – which ate grain seed and fruit.[1] The government also declared that "birds are public animals of capitalism".[2] As a result of this campaign, many sparrows died from exhaustion; citizens would bang pots and pans so that sparrows would not have the chance to rest on tree branches and would fall dead from the sky.[3] Sparrow nests were also destroyed, eggs were broken, and chicks were killed. In addition to these tactics, citizens also resorted to simply shooting the birds down from the sky.[4] These mass attacks depleted the sparrow population, pushing it to near extinction.[4] Furthermore, contests were held among enterprises, government agencies, and schools in cleanliness.[3] Non-material rewards were given to those who handed in the largest number of rat tails, dead flies and mosquitoes, or dead sparrows.[5]
At dawn one day last week, the slaughter of the sparrows in Peking began, continuing a campaign that has been going on in the countryside for months. The objection to the sparrows is that, like the rest of China's inhabitants, they are hungry. They are accused of pecking away at supplies in warehouses and in paddyfields at an officially estimated rate of four pounds of grain per sparrow per year. And so divisions of soldiers deployed through Peking streets, their footfalls muffled by rubber-soled sneakers. Students and civil servants in high-collared tunics, and schoolchildren carrying pots and pans, ladles and spoons, quietly took up their stations. The total force, according to Radio Peking, numbered 3,000,000.[6]
Some sparrows found refuge in the extraterritorial premises of various diplomatic missions in China. The personnel of the Polish embassy in Beijing denied the Chinese request of entering the premises of the embassy to scare away the sparrows who were hiding there and as a result the embassy was surrounded by people with drums. After two days of constant drumming, the Poles had to use shovels to clear the embassy of dead sparrows.[7]
By April 1960, Chinese leaders changed their opinion due to the influence of ornithologist Tso-hsin Cheng[2] who pointed out that sparrows ate a large number of insects, as well as grains.[8][9] Rather than being increased, rice yields after the campaign were substantially decreased.[10][9] Mao ordered the end of the campaign against sparrows, replacing them with bed bugs, as the extermination of the former upset the ecological balance, and bugs destroyed crops as a result of the absence of natural predators. By this time, however, it was too late. With no sparrows to eat them, locust populations ballooned, swarming the country and compounding the ecological problems already caused by the Great Leap Forward, including widespread deforestation and misuse of poisons and pesticides.[10] Ecological imbalance is credited with exacerbating the Great Chinese Famine, in which 20–45 million people died of starvation.[11][12]
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Date: July 19th, 2018 10:15 PM Author: cerise idiotic meetinghouse faggot firefighter
Chinese only place value on their family--society at large gains no sympathy so they dont give a fuck about fucking people over.
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Date: July 19th, 2018 10:41 PM Author: beta anal generalized bond
Anyone watch The China Hustle?
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=55892jT06aI
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