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San Fran spends $37,000 a year per homeless person, still literally shit covered

San Francisco continues to spend big in fight against home...
Razzle vengeful parlour alpha
  07/19/18
And the SF mayor will now become the CA govenor. Lmao at lib...
stirring box office sneaky criminal
  07/19/18
That's only for the money earmarked specifically for fightin...
Light codepig principal's office
  07/19/18
Great point. The actually spending on these 7,500 people pro...
Razzle vengeful parlour alpha
  07/19/18
Which is why it's often smart to just give homeless free shi...
Light codepig principal's office
  07/19/18
It's crazy that people who work for a living make hard choic...
Olive Field
  07/19/18
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Lime Cracking Elastic Band
  07/19/18
Can you be mayor?
Aphrodisiac Sandwich
  07/19/18
those places dont want them either, nor should they take the...
Scarlet doctorate
  07/19/18
also difficult for a mayor of one town to dump their human e...
big mustard pit
  07/19/18
SF is paying $37K per homeless resident now (and as noted el...
Olive Field
  07/20/18
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big mustard pit
  07/19/18
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Olive Field
  07/19/18
Why not just execute the homeless?
Heady copper corn cake
  07/19/18
The old joke is that a liberal is somebody too open-minded t...
Olive Field
  07/19/18
Yep. Shitlibs, folks.
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passionate stage place of business
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lol for $37,000 you could pay for them to rent an apart...oh...
unholy institution feces
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big mustard pit
  07/19/18
https://i.redd.it/1vr72x0et8211.jpg
Razzmatazz Bull Headed Hairy Legs University
  07/19/18
That shit is growing...
Judgmental keepsake machete
  07/19/18
I fantasize nightly about murdering homeless people so you’r...
Aphrodisiac Sandwich
  07/19/18
SF is a sign of what Libs have in store for the rest of us.
passionate stage place of business
  07/19/18
(The Shark)
exhilarant gas station marketing idea
  07/19/18
I like how the comparison is to an earlier San Francisco. T...
Thirsty stage twinkling uncleanness
  07/19/18
You know what I dont get about the homeless? Why would they ...
Emerald arousing abode
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"Why would they choose to remain in San Francisco when ...
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  07/19/18
Right? When you're liberated from the bondage of a 9-5 job, ...
Emerald arousing abode
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  07/19/18
Libs are paying $37K a year, plus other ancillary spending, ...
Olive Field
  07/20/18
Because at minimum, they get $37,000 in free shit. Homeless...
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Olive Field
  07/20/18
my guess is a lot of them come from other places to sf b/c o...
Dark abnormal immigrant theater
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Date: July 19th, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: Razzle vengeful parlour alpha

San Francisco continues to spend big in fight against homelessness -- but is it working?

Greg Norman

It’s a problem that’s costing the city of San Francisco hundreds of millions of dollars annually to try to solve – and for its new mayor, something that's starting to become increasingly smelly too.

London Breed says the amount of feces scattered on the streets of the wealthy city in recent months is among the worst she has ever seen, and San Francisco reportedly is set to spend nearly $280 million in its next budget fighting homelessness – an average of $37,300 for each of the city’s estimated 7,499 homeless residents.

"I will say there is more feces on the sidewalks than I’ve ever seen growing up here," Breed, who was sworn in last week, said days later in an NBC Bay Area interview. She added that outreach groups funded by the city need to do a better job making sure the homeless clean up trash and waste from bodily functions they sometimes leave behind.

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"That is a huge problem and we are not just talking about from dogs — we’re talking about from humans,” she said.

San Francisco in recent years is reported to have spent $241 million and $275 million from annual budgets on homeless outreach services and programs, most of which, according to the San Francisco Chronicle, involve supportive housing units that get people off the streets. For the first time, the city’s overall budget this year will top $11 billion, the Chronicle reported.

FILE - In this April 26, 2018, file photo, a man lies on the sidewalk beside a recyclable trash bin in San Francisco. San Francisco voters will decide in November 2018 whether to tax large businesses to pay for homeless and housing services in a city struggling with income inequality. Supporters collected enough signatures to get the measure on the ballot. (AP Photo/Ben Margot, File)

April 26, 2018: A man lies on the sidewalk beside a recyclable trash bin in San Francisco. The city's voters will decide in November 2018 whether to tax large businesses to pay for homeless and housing services in a city struggling with income inequality. Supporters collected enough signatures to get the measure on the ballot. (AP)

But for all the money San Francisco is throwing at the complex issue, the number of people living on the streets appears to be staying the same, according to data from a homeless count survey conducted last year citywide.

Out of the 7,499 homeless people recorded last year, about 58 percent, or 4,353 people, were marked as unsheltered. The other 3,146 were designated sheltered.

In 2015, when the homeless population was estimated to be 7,539, there were 4,358 unsheltered compared to 3,181 sheltered. And in data going back to 2013, when the homeless population was estimated to be 7,350, there were 4,315 sheltered compared to 3,035 sheltered.

“We got a lot of means to interact with folks and talk to folks but we don’t have the means to keep them in homes,” Dayton Andrews, a human rights organizer with the San Francisco-based Coalition on Homelessness advocacy group, told Fox News. “We spend a lot of money but we don’t have a clear picture of all the different issues that these social services need to solve.”

The most recent homeless count survey says about half of the city’s homeless population is clustered in one northeast district that includes city hall, the San Francisco Giants’ AT&T Park, and the corporate offices of companies such as Twitter and Uber.

"Despite decades of well-intentioned bills, spending efforts, or guiding plans, the same tragic scene continues day after day and year after year."

- Nick Josefowitz, candidate for San Francisco City Supervisor, District 2

Those surveyed cited job loss as the biggest cause of their homelessness, followed by problems tied to alcohol and drug use. They also said their biggest obstacle to obtaining permanent housing is not being able to afford the pricey rents of apartments and homes in the Bay Area.

“The long-term solution to unsheltered or street homelessness is the same as the solution to all homelessness – provide housing exits through a range of interventions tailored to the needs of each individual and offered through a coordinated system,” the survey concludes. “However, the pathways from homelessness to housing are unclear and inconsistent.

City supervisor hopeful Nick Josefowitz, however, said he believes San Francisco shouldn't “invest a single public dollar without knowing if it is doing any good."

“Despite decades of well-intentioned bills, spending efforts, or guiding plans, the same tragic scene continues day after day and year after year,” he wrote in an April article on Medium. “Indeed, in recent years the situation has become so much worse. Yet too often City Hall is still making decisions on homelessness based on folk wisdom rather than hard evidence.”

Josefowitz says the city government needs to “double down on the programs that are working, and shut down those that are not” – in addition to conducting more frequent surveys.

“Asking volunteers to count people who appear to be homeless once every two years is fundamentally inadequate to ensure City Government has the information it needs to adequately respond to this epidemic,” he wrote. “We should be tracking our population in real time. Otherwise, we have to wait far too long to know whether what we’re doing is working.”

FILE - In this Feb. 23, 2016 file photo, a man stands outside his tent on Division Street in San Francisco. San Francisco voters will decide in November 2018 whether to tax large businesses to pay for homeless and housing services in a city struggling with income inequality. Supporters collected enough signatures to get the measure on the ballot. (AP Photo/Eric Risberg, File)

Feb. 23, 2016: A man stands outside his tent on Division Street in San Francisco. (AP)

His comments echoed a similar complaint the San Francisco Chronicle’s editorial board made years earlier – that the city isn’t doing enough to track their efforts.

“That a city can spend $241 million a year on programs and still confront such human misery suggests those dollars are not being spent with anything close to optimal effectiveness,” the board wrote in 2016. “Eight city departments and 76 private and nonprofit organizations draw from those funds in 400 contracts, yet the degree of accountability is highly suspect.”

The newspaper said as of 2017, the waiting list for nighttime shelter beds was at 1,100.

On the other side of the country, New York City says its outreach teams are playing a key role in getting homeless people off the streets -- but to do so, it sometimes takes "hundreds of contacts over many months."

“Individuals residing on the street face tremendous barriers to coming indoors, having fallen through every social safety net, and experiencing trauma or other mental health issues, making them our most service-resistant population," Isaac McGinn, the director of communications for the NYC Department of Homeless Services, told Fox News.

But in San Francisco, the persistent homelessness problem is also raising tensions amongst the public.

Breed’s comments last week came as the “Fed Up Populace Campaign” placed a full-page ad in the Friday edition of the San Francisco Chronicle warning residents to “watch their backs.”

In the ad, a person describing themselves as a “disgusted female San Francisco resident (for now)” claimed she recently witnessed a “homeless person wielding a large pair of SCISSORS” inside a café at a Neiman Marcus store.

“The San Francisco city fathers and those who should be held accountable for our public safety have for years let us all down by catering to the lowest common denominator,” the ad states. “Sit with your backs to the wall, fellow citizens."

Breed told NBC Bay Area “about 70 percent of the people estimated to be homeless in San Francisco were actually housed in San Francisco before they became homeless,” so they need to be “held accountable for taking care of our streets.

"I work hard to make sure your programs are funded for the purposes of trying to get these individuals help, and what I am asking you to do is work with your clients and ask them to at least have respect for the community — at least, clean up after themselves and show respect to one another and people in the neighborhood,” she said.

The San Francisco Mayor’s Office and Department of Homelessness and Supportive Housing did not respond to requests for comment from Fox News for this article.

http://www.foxnews.com/us/2018/07/19/san-francisco-continues-to-spend-big-in-fight-against-homelessness-but-is-it-working.html



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36459835)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 2:29 PM
Author: stirring box office sneaky criminal

And the SF mayor will now become the CA govenor. Lmao at libs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36459841)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 2:31 PM
Author: Light codepig principal's office

That's only for the money earmarked specifically for fighting homelessness.

Does not count all the extra money spent by law enforcement or all the healthcare costs for the 5 ER visits / year the average homeeles person has. Or a million other things.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36459847)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 2:32 PM
Author: Razzle vengeful parlour alpha

Great point. The actually spending on these 7,500 people probably tops a billion.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36459849)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 2:34 PM
Author: Light codepig principal's office

Which is why it's often smart to just give homeless free shitty housing. But SF is not like NYC with huge public housing projects and so can't do it to teh same extent. If they tried to move them to other cities bvy buying them free housing there, libs would get pissed off or a variety of reasons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36459858)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 2:37 PM
Author: Olive Field

It's crazy that people who work for a living make hard choices on where they can afford to live all the time... but homeless policy proceeds from the assumption that freeloaders are entitled to live in the zip code of their choice.

We absolutely could buy all 7,500 of these people cheap tract housing in the middle of nowhere. Doing so would probably even save money. If they don't want their free housing in the middle of nowhere then fine, but they can't stay on the streets of San Francisco either. Simple.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36459885)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: Lime Cracking Elastic Band



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36460258)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 7:08 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Sandwich

Can you be mayor?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36461782)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 8:03 PM
Author: Scarlet doctorate

those places dont want them either, nor should they take them.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36462172)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 8:14 PM
Author: big mustard pit

also difficult for a mayor of one town to dump their human excrement into another

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36462265)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:04 AM
Author: Olive Field

SF is paying $37K per homeless resident now (and as noted elsewhere in thread actually more than that). The cost of holding someone in minimum security prison is less than that.

In rural America, there are a ton of abandoned houses in shrinking towns. Putting one guy up and getting $30K for it would be easily worth it for them. Most of these bros are relatively harmless and would just get high all day. If they slowly kill themselves in rural America instead of a city, everybody wins.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36464191)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 8:12 PM
Author: big mustard pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36462248)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: Olive Field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36459855)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: Heady copper corn cake

Why not just execute the homeless?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36459862)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 2:36 PM
Author: Olive Field

The old joke is that a liberal is somebody too open-minded to take his own side in a fight.

San Francisco really demonstrates this. There are 7,500 homeless "residents" in San Francisco making the city a literal shithole for the other 850,000 or so (not to mention all the people who commute in). Those 850,000 might, collectively, decide that the city should be liveable and the 7,500 marauders can either shape up, take a bus ticket out, or hie to jail.

But no, because the 850,000 are overwhelmingly lib the answer will be to give the 7,500 more money. It's LITERALLY shitliberalism.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36459873)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: Razzle vengeful parlour alpha

Yep. Shitlibs, folks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36460243)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:34 PM
Author: Olive Field



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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:47 PM
Author: Adventurous Zippy Juggernaut Toaster



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36461663)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:52 PM
Author: sickened mentally impaired forum digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36461695)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 7:09 PM
Author: passionate stage place of business



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36461788)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:50 PM
Author: unholy institution feces

lol for $37,000 you could pay for them to rent an apart...oh wait, not in SF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36461685)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 8:12 PM
Author: big mustard pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36462245)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 6:56 PM
Author: Razzmatazz Bull Headed Hairy Legs University

https://i.redd.it/1vr72x0et8211.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36461723)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 7:53 PM
Author: Judgmental keepsake machete

That shit is growing...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36462107)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 7:10 PM
Author: Aphrodisiac Sandwich

I fantasize nightly about murdering homeless people so you’re right, but if you don’t live here, why do you give so much of a fuck what goes on in sf?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36461793)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 7:11 PM
Author: passionate stage place of business

SF is a sign of what Libs have in store for the rest of us.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36461810)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 7:59 PM
Author: exhilarant gas station marketing idea

(The Shark)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36462150)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 8:02 PM
Author: Thirsty stage twinkling uncleanness

I like how the comparison is to an earlier San Francisco. The halcyon days of yore when there was still buman shit lining the streets, just not as much as there is today

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36462164)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 8:05 PM
Author: Emerald arousing abode

You know what I dont get about the homeless? Why would they choose to remain in San Francisco when they could just chill in Yosemite or Muir Woods in their tent, shit wherever they want, eat fresh berries and fish, and just live freely.

Why chose to surround yourself with crusty Asians and concrete?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36462197)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 8:08 PM
Author: Fishy Vivacious Boistinker Personal Credit Line

"Why would they choose to remain in San Francisco when they could just chill in Yosemite or Muir Woods in their tent, shit wherever they want, eat fresh berries and fish, and just live freely."

if actually feasible i'd say sign me up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36462211)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 8:11 PM
Author: Emerald arousing abode

Right? When you're liberated from the bondage of a 9-5 job, family, or bills then why not just live off the grid somewhere? Why would you stay in the cosmopolitan wasteland where people walk over you each day?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36462234)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 8:12 PM
Author: big mustard pit



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36462241)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:07 AM
Author: Olive Field

Libs are paying $37K a year, plus other ancillary spending, plus whatever these guys panhandle, plus they apparently have easy access to drugs (which libs are essentially buying for them). Why would they leave? SF treats them like royalty.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36464194)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:08 AM
Author: Razzle vengeful parlour alpha

Because at minimum, they get $37,000 in free shit. Homeless people are incredibly fucked up and most of them are lazy. lol at thinking they'd want to fish for their own food. Why do that when they can just live in shit-infested lib paradise and cop all the free services.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36464195)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:08 PM
Author: Olive Field



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36467257)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: Dark abnormal immigrant theater

my guess is a lot of them come from other places to sf b/c of the bennies

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36467277)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: 180 Self-centered Rehab

holy fuck, do you know how long it would take for Kavanaugh to save that much?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36467278)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: seedy titillating legal warrant idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030276&forum_id=2#36467290)