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Ethics Q: Taking Free Breakfast At Hotel If Checking In Early In Morning

my mom was making fun of my brother's hot shikse ex for this...
Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant
  07/19/18
Is this the one he was going to marry?
cream mind-boggling pistol orchestra pit
  07/19/18
no, he married a ttt jewess who "became religious."...
Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant
  07/19/18
holy shit
sable gaming laptop
  07/20/18
It's theft. One breakfast serving per night bought.
cobalt black woman
  07/19/18
this cant be the rule. the room includes breakfast and is th...
Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant
  07/19/18
it is wrong, clearly youre taking something you didnt pay fo...
Blue Point Son Of Senegal
  07/19/18
what if you're leaving at 5am the day you check out and not ...
Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant
  07/19/18
nah, you are buying breakfast for the morning after your sta...
Blue Point Son Of Senegal
  07/19/18
wtf
provocative turquoise rigpig
  07/19/18
wtf what?
Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant
  07/19/18
shockingly i actually agree with you. not wrong. if the hote...
Curious Travel Guidebook Mother
  07/19/18
solid gemara-level reasoning. your point is good -- that...
Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant
  07/19/18
It's not wrong regardless of the analogy above or the timing...
carmine old irish cottage
  07/20/18
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Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant
  07/20/18
You could just ask the front desk or manager. At a hotel ...
Coiffed drunken dog poop kitty cat
  07/20/18
50/50. or the employee is a minimum wage employee who has no...
Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant
  07/20/18
ITT: matzo balls
aromatic zippy business firm
  07/20/18
Trick question: Jews don’t have or care about ethics.
Sickened bat-shit-crazy home boltzmann
  07/20/18
are we talking about chinks or judenrat here?
aromatic zippy business firm
  07/20/18
The delineation between theft and righteous breakfast partak...
Puce Party Of The First Part
  07/20/18
i read my mom the responses ITT. she loved the creativity.
Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant
  07/20/18
l'chaim!
sable gaming laptop
  07/20/18
If the hotel really wanted to enforce this, they would issue...
Beady-eyed Zombie-like Trust Fund Site
  07/20/18
i agree. though the only counterargument is that some hot...
Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant
  07/20/18


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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:26 PM
Author: Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant

my mom was making fun of my brother's hot shikse ex for this tonight, and i figured i'd throw the hypo out to the boart...

brother and shikse ex went on a road trip a few years ago, and they had camped the night before got to their next destination at about 9am and checked in at the embassy suites where they were booked for that evening. the hotel wasnt busy and they gave them their room for that evening at 9am.

the hotel included free buffet breakfast and it's just out in the breakfast area for anyone to help themselves. total honor system. anyone could walk in off the streets and eat there.

brother said to shikse ex that they should have some breakfast. shikse refused to partake, and lectured him that it's "stealing" because they weren't paying for the room for that previous night. brother was internally maf, but he's a pussy so he didnt fight too much with her and she let her cuck him.

so, the Q: is it wrong to take the breakfast? would you do it anyway?

my answer: i dont even think it's wrong if you're staying there the next night (as opposed to walking in off the street). you're giving the hotel money anyway, and it's just a shitty breakfast buffet with powdered eggs and cereal and the benefit you're deriving is de minimis. and it's a GC corporate chain hotel anyway, so who the fuck cares.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463264)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:28 PM
Author: cream mind-boggling pistol orchestra pit

Is this the one he was going to marry?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463275)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:33 PM
Author: Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant

no, he married a ttt jewess who "became religious."

this shikse ex was his longest LTR -- 2 yrs. she was HOT and he should have married her and forced her to convert. she was super into jesus and said she "couldnt" convert. they broke up bc she was cucking him with a german ex bf who lived in germany and was an exchange student at her HS and supposedly he "turned gay" and she was flying to europe to visit him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463325)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: sable gaming laptop

holy shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466396)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:29 PM
Author: cobalt black woman

It's theft. One breakfast serving per night bought.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463296)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant

this cant be the rule. the room includes breakfast and is the same price for 1 or 2 ppl. therefore, the rule can't be that one night = 1 breakfast serving. sometimes one night = 2 breakfast servings. therefore, your rule fails.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463333)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:30 PM
Author: Blue Point Son Of Senegal

it is wrong, clearly youre taking something you didnt pay for, but i dont really have a problem with it in this case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463300)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:35 PM
Author: Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant

what if you're leaving at 5am the day you check out and not taking breakfast that morning. is it a wash then?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463336)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: Blue Point Son Of Senegal

nah, you are buying breakfast for the morning after your stay. this is widely understood.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463369)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: provocative turquoise rigpig

wtf

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463313)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:52 PM
Author: Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant

wtf what?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463450)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:32 PM
Author: Curious Travel Guidebook Mother

shockingly i actually agree with you. not wrong. if the hotel has space available and checks you in early, then you're entitled to use the hotel amenities like any other guest.

taking the other position is like saying it's stealing to use the gym, print something in the business center, or take a copy of the WSJ before 3:00 check in time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463318)



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Date: July 19th, 2018 11:40 PM
Author: Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant

solid gemara-level reasoning.

your point is good -- that the breakfast buffet is an amenity. if it were individualized breakfast and cooked to order, it might be a different case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463359)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:03 AM
Author: carmine old irish cottage

It's not wrong regardless of the analogy above or the timing, I think. Amenities are offered for all guests without differentiation in fee. Fee is traded for the right to use and consume. It is the hotel's right to limit consumption and use or adjust pricing and benefits and they will do that in some ways - drink tickets for suites, for example. Buffet is provided for all. Hotel could limit if they wanted. It's ultimately a bargained for contract.

It's almost like shikse had tired of Jew money reasoning but wasn't smart enough to think through this one so she chose a seemingly CLOSE CALL as the place to make her stand. Oops.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463506)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:04 AM
Author: Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463510)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:06 AM
Author: Coiffed drunken dog poop kitty cat

You could just ask the front desk or manager.

At a hotel like the Embassy Suites, they'd probably tell you to go for it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463519)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant

50/50. or the employee is a minimum wage employee who has no ability to use common sense & reason and feels obligated to strictly abide by "rules"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463528)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:07 AM
Author: aromatic zippy business firm

ITT: matzo balls

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463527)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:08 AM
Author: Sickened bat-shit-crazy home boltzmann

Trick question: Jews don’t have or care about ethics.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463529)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:10 AM
Author: aromatic zippy business firm

are we talking about chinks or judenrat here?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463549)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 12:21 AM
Author: Puce Party Of The First Part

The delineation between theft and righteous breakfast partaking is similarly situated to the standing between Four Seasons and Extended Stay Motel 6 and Embassy Suites years towards the latter. [Rashi 6:21].

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36463594)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant

i read my mom the responses ITT. she loved the creativity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466384)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: sable gaming laptop

l'chaim!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466401)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Zombie-like Trust Fund Site

If the hotel really wanted to enforce this, they would issue you tickets for the breakfast buffet for the number of nights of your stay (which I have seen done in some hotels).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466465)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Garnet pea-brained station legal warrant

i agree.

though the only counterargument is that some hotels are arranged so that it logistically difficult to set this up. the breakfast is often kinda in the lobby and it's totally open to the public and would be hard to rope off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4030715&forum_id=2#36466477)