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Confrontation with thugette over parking in a handicapped space = dead thug

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Excitant menage idea he suggested
  07/20/18
read this as constipation
Bipolar Fragrant National
  07/20/18
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Excitant menage idea he suggested
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he wasn't charged under stand your ground, suggesting the po...
ruby property
  07/20/18
Did you even read your own article? Dude was a hot head who...
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Excitant menage idea he suggested
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Oh, gotcha
walnut tanning salon
  07/21/18
Markeis dindu nuffin
titillating hissy fit kitchen
  07/20/18
just watched the video. there were clearly other spots she c...
Useless concupiscible legend kitty
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Excitant menage idea he suggested
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i don’t know florida law, but i don’t see how you’d call tha...
Useless concupiscible legend kitty
  07/20/18
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Excitant menage idea he suggested
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hope you're right, it can't be right to start yelling at a w...
heady area
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cracking dark twinkling uncleanness space
  07/21/18
Joke: getting shot after you slam a confrontational Florida ...
Appetizing flickering shitlib
  07/20/18
cr. signor glockton shoulda pre-emptively shot djerkoff.
Topaz painfully honest senate
  07/21/18
I thought SYD just means you have to duty to flee.
electric institution
  07/23/18
without provocation? Isn't a random dude berating your girl ...
heady area
  07/20/18
not in s civilized society, no.
Useless concupiscible legend kitty
  07/20/18
how is yelling at someone for some minor stuff rather than c...
heady area
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Excitant menage idea he suggested
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(Bigot)
floppy brilliant incel
  07/21/18
have you missed the last six months? you are NOT supposed to...
Provocative Faggotry
  07/21/18
you cannot argue with these people. on XO, white is always r...
laughsome glassy trailer park sandwich
  07/22/18
He’s responding to me, and I said that the shooter was in th...
Useless concupiscible legend kitty
  07/23/18
WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH HIS LEGS
heady area
  07/20/18
Yeah, that was some cold blooded shit.
Olive Big Friendly Grandma Ticket Booth
  07/20/18
NO ARREST
heady area
  07/20/18
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Excitant menage idea he suggested
  07/20/18
You should take it.
heady area
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Excitant menage idea he suggested
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Blue smoke loves to say that it’s “cowardly” and “unmanly” i...
Appetizing flickering shitlib
  07/20/18
Crazy that this happened in Florida of all places.
heady area
  07/20/18
it’s always florida.
Useless concupiscible legend kitty
  07/20/18
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chartreuse field halford
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tripping corner
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Summon: nyuug
chartreuse field halford
  07/20/18
He did not slam him to the ground. McGlockton went up to ...
heady area
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Excitant menage idea he suggested
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Dickensian name
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floppy brilliant incel
  07/21/18
The father of three
vigorous very tactful dilemma wagecucks
  07/21/18
Zimmerman 2.0
multi-colored magical heaven jew
  07/20/18
Pretty similar, actually.
heady area
  07/20/18
in the vid i thought it looked more like heat-of-the-moment ...
twisted wrinkle
  07/20/18
Got to put yourself in the mindset of being a weak, skinny f...
Fiercely-loyal Cuckold Gaming Laptop
  07/20/18
I noticed that too. He continued to approach the shooter af...
ruby property
  07/21/18
Why do blacks always take handicapped spots. Hope this guy g...
thriller step-uncle's house
  07/20/18
what a bitchmade trigger happy puss and he's done it bef...
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stubborn roommate
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i hate these vigilante types who overreact to minor things. ...
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Excitant menage idea he suggested
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No offense (and please don’t put me on your tracker now) but...
Appetizing flickering shitlib
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CRRRRRRRRRRR
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lol
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metal stage
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It's always white boomer men who do this shit.
laughsome glassy trailer park sandwich
  07/22/18
well this is going to end well
Sable Hospital
  07/20/18
pretty hilarious all the way around. just walk out of a s...
domesticated coiffed party of the first part
  07/20/18
When keeping it real goes wrong
spectacular seedy hell ceo
  07/20/18
tough call I think the assailant was threatening to conti...
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Excitant menage idea he suggested
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yeah I was thinking the same
Fishy Razzle Windowlicker Hall
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all parties involved are awful people. i hate when ppl go...
iridescent philosopher-king mental disorder
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Trip bossy alpha
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hot take!
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  07/21/18
100% justified. The victim was physically attacked. Crim...
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I was thinking that maybe the guy bitching about the spot w...
domesticated coiffed party of the first part
  07/21/18
He won’t be charged, or if he is, he walks.
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metal stage
  07/21/18
Why was that post shitmodded?
bull headed thirsty stain
  07/21/18
TSINAH is an insane faggot
metal stage
  07/21/18
If Florida law makes that a permissible killing, that's fuck...
bull headed thirsty stain
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Excitant menage idea he suggested
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Disagree
vivacious boiling water personal credit line
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The sheriff seems to think it might be, per the article you ...
bull headed thirsty stain
  07/21/18
since the burden is on the prosecutor, you think a jury coul...
Fishy Razzle Windowlicker Hall
  07/21/18
easily
Provocative Faggotry
  07/21/18
are you familiar with Florida at all, brother?
Fishy Razzle Windowlicker Hall
  07/21/18
Why did TSINAH edit this post? Weird!
bull headed thirsty stain
  08/13/18
theres no way that guy was fearful of his life. the black du...
Provocative Faggotry
  07/21/18
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pink out-of-control pervert address
  07/21/18
Yes, yes you are.
vivacious boiling water personal credit line
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That sort of chivalry is only justified if your gf is heroic...
Appetizing flickering shitlib
  07/21/18
cr
stubborn roommate
  07/21/18
The pusher was not moving toward the white guy at all after ...
Ruddy rigor
  07/21/18
total bitch move to start a confrontation knowing you are st...
pink out-of-control pervert address
  07/21/18
100% credited response. This is my main problem with these l...
stubborn roommate
  07/21/18
An armed society is a polite society. If you physically as...
vivacious boiling water personal credit line
  07/21/18
try carefully rereading my comment, little guy.
stubborn roommate
  07/21/18
(Guy who slept through crim law)
pink out-of-control pervert address
  07/21/18
CR. The people at the gun events I go to are the nicest peo...
walnut tanning salon
  07/22/18
that's irrelevant; everyone there is huddling together in th...
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sienna fat ankles
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Darwin in action, bro: the gorillas must learn not to mess w...
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I understand from your perspective anything that gives viole...
stubborn roommate
  07/21/18
cr but he doesn't have the iq to grasp that
laughsome glassy trailer park sandwich
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cr
stubborn roommate
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laughsome glassy trailer park sandwich
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This is fucked up imo.
cracking dark twinkling uncleanness space
  07/21/18
this guy should burn, 100%
boyish poppy sanctuary goal in life
  07/21/18
i don't think blacks are into cremation.
domesticated coiffed party of the first part
  07/21/18
Bitch move by the shooter. He'd been dreaming of the day one...
Emerald spot
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pink out-of-control pervert address
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absolute cr
stubborn roommate
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Ruddy rigor
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diverse talking library generalized bond
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there will be whites on the jury...he will NEVER BE CONVICTE...
Racy Theatre
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shut the fuck up you fucking boomer
Ruddy rigor
  07/22/18
this could be a catalyst...
Racy Theatre
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DIS GON BE GUD
Racy Theatre
  07/22/18
Why the fuck does the media and even the Sherrif keep trying...
dashing faggot firefighter
  07/22/18
Cr 50/50
cracking dark twinkling uncleanness space
  07/22/18
May be wrong but ithink stand your ground law goes farther t...
ruby property
  07/22/18
You still need to make a reasonable assertion of a self defe...
dashing faggot firefighter
  07/22/18
In California and many other states, the defendant has to pr...
ruby property
  07/22/18
oh ok so that's why Zimmerman didn't have a trial? because h...
metal stage
  07/22/18
so stand your ground law specifically shifts the burden once...
dashing faggot firefighter
  07/22/18
CR that guy you're responding to is just retarded. insanity ...
Twinkling Flirting Idiot
  07/22/18
cr
metal stage
  07/22/18
stop acting like this is a law forum and just say whether yo...
pink out-of-control pervert address
  07/22/18
i haven't seen the video. But if the guy was not walking to...
dashing faggot firefighter
  07/23/18
after pushing the shooter to the ground, the guy did that gh...
Fishy Razzle Windowlicker Hall
  07/23/18
lol pwnd
Histrionic Principal's Office
  07/22/18
From a purely utilitarian point of view everything worked ou...
abnormal soul-stirring patrolman parlour
  07/22/18
no it didn't. the old guy would have to be shot too.
lemon odious crackhouse
  07/22/18
He's a hero
multi-colored magical heaven jew
  07/23/18
That was not justified. The guy was sitting there yelling at...
Arrogant Irradiated Resort Cumskin
  07/23/18
https://florida.arrests.org/search.php?fname=Markeis+&ln...
Racy Theatre
  07/23/18
these are not good people, folks
wonderful nowag
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I don't know how this is "within the bookends." ...
Deep arousing round eye travel guidebook
  07/23/18
blame gun classes then (which are required in my state). eve...
Appetizing flickering shitlib
  07/23/18
So to answer my own question above, part of the confusion is...
dashing faggot firefighter
  07/23/18
interesting, thanks....I went to law school before the SYG l...
Racy Theatre
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Excitant menage idea he suggested
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Meanwhile in South Africa niggers are raping and boiling chi...
multi-colored magical heaven jew
  07/23/18
Charged with manslaughter: https://abcnews.go.com/US/sho...
bull headed thirsty stain
  08/13/18
Good. And that was a smart decision not to charge him with m...
Deep arousing round eye travel guidebook
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Fucking ridiculous if they convict even on manslaughter
clear locale
  08/13/18
Dude, that was cold blooded murder. Try being objective abou...
Deep arousing round eye travel guidebook
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LJL at Crump showing up without fail.
domesticated coiffed party of the first part
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Date: July 20th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36467916)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: Bipolar Fragrant National

read this as constipation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36467922)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36467925)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 9:05 PM
Author: ruby property

he wasn't charged under stand your ground, suggesting the police thought he likely was in fear of his life - the other guy doesn't need to have a weapon for the shooting to be justified - a big angry black man slams you to the ground counts as risk of serious bodily injury

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468606)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 10:52 PM
Author: walnut tanning salon

Did you even read your own article? Dude was a hot head who was eager to shoot someone

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468968)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:02 AM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:08 AM
Author: walnut tanning salon

Oh, gotcha

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469609)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 6:58 PM
Author: titillating hissy fit kitchen

Markeis dindu nuffin

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36467930)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:07 PM
Author: Useless concupiscible legend kitty

just watched the video. there were clearly other spots she coulda taken. the shooter was obviously attacked without provocation, but i’m not convinced he would have been in fear of death/gbh. seemed like the (shooting) vict8m wasn’t trying to c9ntinur the fight when he drew.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36467975)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:09 PM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:11 PM
Author: Useless concupiscible legend kitty

i don’t know florida law, but i don’t see how you’d call that 2nd degree, either way. maybe voluntary manslaughter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36467988)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:17 PM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:25 PM
Author: heady area

hope you're right, it can't be right to start yelling at a woman and then get off for killing her husband/bf when he pushes you to the ground

Not only was there no legitimate fear of death/gbh for getting pushed, the husband/bf clearly paused, raised hands, and backed away as soon as the gun was pulled.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468069)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:32 PM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



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Date: July 21st, 2018 8:25 AM
Author: cracking dark twinkling uncleanness space



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Date: July 20th, 2018 8:33 PM
Author: Appetizing flickering shitlib

Joke: getting shot after you slam a confrontational Florida man to the ground for confronting your wife.

Woke: preemptively shooting anyone, male or female, who confronts a member of your family in a parking lot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468463)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 6:45 PM
Author: Topaz painfully honest senate

cr. signor glockton shoulda pre-emptively shot djerkoff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36472386)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 1:55 PM
Author: electric institution

I thought SYD just means you have to duty to flee.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36481388)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:13 PM
Author: heady area

without provocation? Isn't a random dude berating your girl for a minor social infraction provocation?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36467996)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: Useless concupiscible legend kitty

not in s civilized society, no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468006)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:16 PM
Author: heady area

how is yelling at someone for some minor stuff rather than calling the cops civilized?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468013)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:17 PM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:15 AM
Author: floppy brilliant incel

(Bigot)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469429)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 8:31 AM
Author: Provocative Faggotry

have you missed the last six months? you are NOT supposed to call the cops on black people for minor infractions anymore.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469896)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 7:34 PM
Author: laughsome glassy trailer park sandwich

you cannot argue with these people. on XO, white is always right. you reverse the roles in this incident and these guys would be out to lynch the nig.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36477045)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 1:27 PM
Author: Useless concupiscible legend kitty

He’s responding to me, and I said that the shooter was in the wrong.

That said, yelling at a woman for parking in a handicap spot (esp when others are available) and refusing to move is trashy but acceptable. I also didn’t see any yelling/berating, but I grant that you can’t really tell from the video so it’s possible he was acting crazy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36481166)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:12 PM
Author: heady area

WHAT IS HAPPENING WITH HIS LEGS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36467993)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:17 PM
Author: Olive Big Friendly Grandma Ticket Booth

Yeah, that was some cold blooded shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468015)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:18 PM
Author: heady area

NO ARREST

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468027)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:20 PM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:20 PM
Author: heady area

You should take it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468039)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:22 PM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



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Date: July 20th, 2018 8:31 PM
Author: Appetizing flickering shitlib

Blue smoke loves to say that it’s “cowardly” and “unmanly” if you DONT meekly submit to a beating by a black thug, if you don’t concede the physical struggle to some guy who never planned to go to college and could just swing from the jungle gym all day.

Yes, you read that right. According to her, NOT cucking is cowardice, and a “real man” would gladly take a beating from a black thug, because slavery and reasons.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468453)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:08 PM
Author: heady area

Crazy that this happened in Florida of all places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36467979)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:10 PM
Author: Useless concupiscible legend kitty

it’s always florida.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36467985)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:12 PM
Author: chartreuse field halford



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36467989)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 8:24 PM
Author: tripping corner



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:12 PM
Author: chartreuse field halford

Summon: nyuug

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36467992)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:22 PM
Author: heady area

He did not slam him to the ground.

McGlockton went up to Drejka and "slammed him to the ground," the sheriff said. Drejka, seconds later while still on the ground, pulled out his gun and shot McGlockton in the chest. The father of three was pronounced dead soon after.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468047)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:22 PM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



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Date: July 20th, 2018 9:09 PM
Author: stubborn roommate

Dickensian name

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468618)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:15 AM
Author: floppy brilliant incel



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Date: July 21st, 2018 8:22 AM
Author: vigorous very tactful dilemma wagecucks

The father of three

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469872)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:22 PM
Author: multi-colored magical heaven jew

Zimmerman 2.0

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468048)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 7:27 PM
Author: heady area

Pretty similar, actually.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468075)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 9:27 PM
Author: twisted wrinkle

in the vid i thought it looked more like heat-of-the-moment murder than self-defense since the young guy was backing off after the gun came out

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468680)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 9:29 PM
Author: Fiercely-loyal Cuckold Gaming Laptop

Got to put yourself in the mindset of being a weak, skinny fat man over 50 who just got thrown on the ground like a ragdoll by a giant, screaming hulking dude.

You might reasonably fear for your life.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468690)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 9:25 AM
Author: ruby property

I noticed that too. He continued to approach the shooter after shoving him to the ground, suggesting he was going to continue to assault him, so I think pulling the gun was clearly OK. But, once he saw the gun he stopped and backed up. If pulling the gun was OK, doesn't that suggest it is OK to shoot. Are you expected to re-assess the situation in the brief moment between brandishing and squeezing the trigger, which from the shooters perspective is one smooth motion?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36470030)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 10:34 PM
Author: thriller step-uncle's house

Why do blacks always take handicapped spots. Hope this guy gets off.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468888)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: Ruddy rigor

what a bitchmade trigger happy puss

and he's done it before:

It wasn’t the first time he saw Drejka in a fight with another customer. A couple of months back, Rick Kelly stopped by the store, parking his tanker truck in the same handicap spot.

The details to Thursday’s incident are similar: Drejka walking around the truck checking for decals, then confronting Kelly, 31, about why he parked there. The fight escalated, and Drejka threatened to shoot him, Kelly said.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468902)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:02 AM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469403)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:01 PM
Author: stubborn roommate



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36470939)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:20 AM
Author: iridescent philosopher-king mental disorder

i hate these vigilante types who overreact to minor things. i once had a dude stalk me for miles after i apparently didn't stop at a stop sign late at night that was obscured by trees. when i got outta my car, he pulled up and threatened to harm me. some ppl have serious anger management issues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469617)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:35 AM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469622)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:16 PM
Author: Appetizing flickering shitlib

No offense (and please don’t put me on your tracker now) but I definitely picture you as exactly this type of Florida Man

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36471738)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:25 PM
Author: metal stage

CRRRRRRRRRRR

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36471801)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 2:08 PM
Author: dashing faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36475333)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 6:12 PM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36476649)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: laughsome glassy trailer park sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36476658)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 7:32 PM
Author: metal stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36477030)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:59 PM
Author: lemon odious crackhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36478223)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 11:01 PM
Author: Twinkling Flirting Idiot

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36478233)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: aphrodisiac hyperventilating box office



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36480972)



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Date: July 24th, 2018 8:42 AM
Author: metal stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36486094)



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Date: August 5th, 2018 12:41 PM
Author: metal stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36557145)



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Date: August 9th, 2018 4:34 PM
Author: metal stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36587321)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: laughsome glassy trailer park sandwich

It's always white boomer men who do this shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36476662)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 10:40 PM
Author: Sable Hospital

well this is going to end well

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468910)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 10:46 PM
Author: domesticated coiffed party of the first part

pretty hilarious all the way around.

just walk out of a store and level somebody.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468935)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 10:53 PM
Author: spectacular seedy hell ceo

When keeping it real goes wrong

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36468972)



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Date: July 20th, 2018 11:52 PM
Author: Fishy Razzle Windowlicker Hall

tough call

I think the assailant was threatening to continue his assault on the shooter (notice how he’s pulling up his pants like ghetto folks do when they are preparing to make some moves), but he did back down a bit when the gun came out

crazy how these ghetto people don’t just freak out and run when a gun comes out. too proud to tuck tail and they get got for it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469158)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:05 AM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469409)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:07 AM
Author: Fishy Razzle Windowlicker Hall

yeah I was thinking the same

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469414)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:18 AM
Author: iridescent philosopher-king mental disorder

all parties involved are awful people.

i hate when ppl go all vigilante for stupid shit like parking in a handicapped spot

but the other guy escalated it with the cheap shot

they're all menaces to society

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469615)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:36 AM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469623)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 9:26 AM
Author: Trip bossy alpha



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36470034)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: Deep arousing round eye travel guidebook

hot take!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36471183)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:45 AM
Author: vivacious boiling water personal credit line

100% justified.

The victim was physically attacked. Criminals like the dead one here need to understand that if you physically attack someone you will be shot and it will be justified.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469628)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:02 AM
Author: domesticated coiffed party of the first part

I was thinking that maybe the guy bitching about the spot was handicapped/old.

If so, he's in a much more vulnerable spot after being blindsided.

Probably plead out to involuntary manslaughter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469644)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:10 AM
Author: vivacious boiling water personal credit line

He won’t be charged, or if he is, he walks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469654)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:10 AM
Author: metal stage

Post removed by moderator for violating The Law of The Land.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469655)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:41 AM
Author: bull headed thirsty stain

Why was that post shitmodded?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469663)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:27 PM
Author: metal stage

TSINAH is an insane faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36471814)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:45 AM
Author: bull headed thirsty stain

If Florida law makes that a permissible killing, that's fucked up. Dipshit was backing away once the gun came out.

Would be an imperfect self-defense case/manslaughter in a lot of places.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469665)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:50 AM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469666)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:27 AM
Author: vivacious boiling water personal credit line

Disagree

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469687)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:28 AM
Author: bull headed thirsty stain

The sheriff seems to think it might be, per the article you linked.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469689)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:37 AM
Author: Fishy Razzle Windowlicker Hall

since the burden is on the prosecutor, you think a jury could be convinced that the shooter DIDNT fear death or serious bodily harm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469695)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 8:33 AM
Author: Provocative Faggotry

easily

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469902)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 9:27 AM
Author: Fishy Razzle Windowlicker Hall

are you familiar with Florida at all, brother?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36470039)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 7:21 PM
Author: bull headed thirsty stain

Why did TSINAH edit this post? Weird!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36611125)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 8:33 AM
Author: Provocative Faggotry

theres no way that guy was fearful of his life. the black dude was a dick, you are in no way justified in throwing someone to the ground because they r being mean to ur gf, but you dont get to kill the guy for making a mistake.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36469900)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 9:38 AM
Author: pink out-of-control pervert address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36470076)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:03 PM
Author: vivacious boiling water personal credit line

Yes, yes you are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36470944)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:17 PM
Author: Appetizing flickering shitlib

That sort of chivalry is only justified if your gf is heroic. For a tinder slot not so much

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36471754)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:11 PM
Author: stubborn roommate

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36470969)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 9:29 AM
Author: Ruddy rigor

The pusher was not moving toward the white guy at all after he pushed him. And after the white guy pulled out the gun the black guy started to back up. This hothead went looking for someone to shoot.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36470046)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 9:31 AM
Author: pink out-of-control pervert address

total bitch move to start a confrontation knowing you are strapped.

if you cant settle your differences with your fists, then don't go around starting shit with random people.

something is wrong with society if we think it is acceptable to shoot someone if they push you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36470051)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: stubborn roommate

100% credited response. This is my main problem with these laws, they make little guys like TMF strut around like bantam cocks starting shit and then just begging you to get in their face so they can cap you. What a terrible precedent. Makes me want to never step foot in a bar again.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36470932)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: vivacious boiling water personal credit line

An armed society is a polite society. If you physically assault someone, you should assume they are armed and will be justified in shooting you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36470945)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: stubborn roommate

try carefully rereading my comment, little guy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36470949)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:51 PM
Author: pink out-of-control pervert address

(Guy who slept through crim law)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36471642)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: walnut tanning salon

CR. The people at the gun events I go to are the nicest people around

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36478132)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 1:42 PM
Author: Appetizing flickering shitlib

that's irrelevant; everyone there is huddling together in their fandom as a besieged cultural minority, so of course the camaraderie is high

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36481291)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: sienna fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36470946)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: hilarious navy office dragon

Darwin in action, bro: the gorillas must learn not to mess with whitey. Or die.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36470948)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:08 PM
Author: stubborn roommate

I understand from your perspective anything that gives violent black men pause or even mows them down is a good thing; the point I am making is that it can also adversely impact the lives of people you may be more fond of.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36470959)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 6:15 PM
Author: laughsome glassy trailer park sandwich

cr but he doesn't have the iq to grasp that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36476673)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 2:59 PM
Author: stubborn roommate

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36481901)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: laughsome glassy trailer park sandwich



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36476669)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 9:32 AM
Author: cracking dark twinkling uncleanness space

This is fucked up imo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36470054)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 2:31 PM
Author: boyish poppy sanctuary goal in life

this guy should burn, 100%

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36471194)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:30 PM
Author: domesticated coiffed party of the first part

i don't think blacks are into cremation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36472093)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: Emerald spot

Bitch move by the shooter. He'd been dreaming of the day one of his bullshit confrontations turned the least bit violent so he could murder someone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36471705)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:11 PM
Author: pink out-of-control pervert address



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36471716)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:22 PM
Author: stubborn roommate

absolute cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36472054)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:28 PM
Author: Ruddy rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36475141)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 6:13 PM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36476660)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 1:49 PM
Author: diverse talking library generalized bond



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36481346)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:26 PM
Author: Racy Theatre

there will be whites on the jury...he will NEVER BE CONVICTED!!

let's get it on...

race war nao!!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36475132)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:28 PM
Author: Ruddy rigor

shut the fuck up you fucking boomer

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36475149)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:31 PM
Author: Racy Theatre

this could be a catalyst...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36475162)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 1:28 PM
Author: Racy Theatre

DIS GON BE GUD

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36475140)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 2:12 PM
Author: dashing faggot firefighter

Why the fuck does the media and even the Sherrif keep trying to forcememe the stand your ground law when it does not apply. The dude was lying on the ground, unable to retreat. Him choosing to stand his ground and not run away has nothing to do with this at all. He is either reasonably in fear of his life or he is not. Same as Zimmerman. The outcome of this should be the same in California or any other state as Florida. It’s either self defense or not.

Fucking idiots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36475358)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: cracking dark twinkling uncleanness space

Cr 50/50

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36475468)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 3:19 PM
Author: ruby property

May be wrong but ithink stand your ground law goes farther than just no duty to retreat and limits ability to charge/ arrest in self defense cases generally.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36475671)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 3:22 PM
Author: dashing faggot firefighter

You still need to make a reasonable assertion of a self defense claim, which is the same case in California.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36475696)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 6:53 PM
Author: ruby property

In California and many other states, the defendant has to prove self-defense at trial. Under Florida stand your ground, a defendant gets immunity from prosecution provide that he can establish a prima facie case. At that point, the burden shifts to the prosecution to demonstrate by clear and convincing evidence that the defendant does not qualify for immunity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36476868)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 7:34 PM
Author: metal stage

oh ok so that's why Zimmerman didn't have a trial? because he was immune from prosecution?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36477047)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:30 PM
Author: dashing faggot firefighter

so stand your ground law specifically shifts the burden once you establish a self defense case? I could swear that's the case in CA too.

I checked - I am right. Once your establish a PF case for self defense the burden is shifted in CA too.

CALCRIM 505 – Justifiable Homicide: Self-Defense or Defense of Another. (“The People have the burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the [attempted] killing was not justified.”)

See also CALCRIM 3470 – Right to Self-Defense or Defense of Another (Non-Homicide). (“The People have the burden of proving beyond a reasonable doubt that the defendant did not act in lawful (self-defense/ [or] defense of another).”)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36478110)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 11:04 PM
Author: Twinkling Flirting Idiot

CR that guy you're responding to is just retarded. insanity is the only "affirmative defense" where a crimlaw defendant actually has the burden of proof. everything else it's pros bro's burden to *disprove* your "defense" beyond a reasonable doubt.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36478241)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 7:33 PM
Author: metal stage

cr

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36477038)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:34 PM
Author: pink out-of-control pervert address

stop acting like this is a law forum and just say whether you think the shooter was justified.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36478128)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:23 AM
Author: dashing faggot firefighter

i haven't seen the video. But if the guy was not walking towards his and tried to step back once the gun was drawn - I would say no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36478733)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 8:12 AM
Author: Fishy Razzle Windowlicker Hall

after pushing the shooter to the ground, the guy did that ghetto "im pulling up my sagging pants fittin' to do some damage" up until the shooter pulled out the gun. at that point the deceased took a step back and got got

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36479514)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: Histrionic Principal's Office

lol pwnd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36476670)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 7:26 PM
Author: abnormal soul-stirring patrolman parlour

From a purely utilitarian point of view everything worked out fine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36477013)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 11:03 PM
Author: lemon odious crackhouse

no it didn't. the old guy would have to be shot too.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36478237)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 8:10 AM
Author: multi-colored magical heaven jew

He's a hero

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36479509)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 8:43 AM
Author: Arrogant Irradiated Resort Cumskin

That was not justified. The guy was sitting there yelling at the dude's gf, and he likely had no idea what was going on when he walked out of the store, other than that he saw some random menace acting aggressively towards his girl.

All he did was shove him and the weak boomer kind of half lost his balance and fell to the ground.

The boomer is not the police and has no business intentionally confronting citizens over fucking handicapped spots, especially when he is carrying.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36479574)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 8:58 AM
Author: Racy Theatre

https://florida.arrests.org/search.php?fname=Markeis+&lname=McGlockton&fpartial=True

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36479605)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 10:54 AM
Author: wonderful nowag

these are not good people, folks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36480146)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:27 PM
Author: Deep arousing round eye travel guidebook

I don't know how this is "within the bookends."

There is a good full second when the victim steps backwards with his hands up. In that second, the boomer formed the intent to kill, there was no threat anymore because pulling out the gun was sufficient to neutralize the threat.

If the boomer was still standing and the victim was still coming towards him, then the boomer would have no duty to retreat, but the victim was not still coming after him and no reasonable person would feel threatened enough to justify deadly force.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36480828)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 5:53 PM
Author: Appetizing flickering shitlib

blame gun classes then (which are required in my state). every instructor says "if you pull it out you fire, you never merely brandish"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36483128)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 1:17 PM
Author: dashing faggot firefighter

So to answer my own question above, part of the confusion is that the law is called "Stand Your Ground" probably to focus on the least controversial aspect of the statute.

The law does get rid of the duty to retreat, but that is a small part of the law. The law also creates a pre-arrest immunity for anyone who invokes self defense (or the SYG law) which must be disproved at a pre-trial immunity hearing by clear and convincing evidence. The affirmative defense during trial is different, and that is the same as every other state.

Since the trial standard for the affirmative defense of self defense must be disproved beyond a reasonable doubt (in CA or FL) that higher standard should result in the same outcome (theoretically) - SYG simply creates additional procedural burdens to bringing the case in the first place - which probably does have a significant impact on prosecution.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36481105)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 5:50 PM
Author: Racy Theatre

interesting, thanks....I went to law school before the SYG laws came up...

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36483113)



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Date: August 10th, 2018 10:45 AM
Author: Excitant menage idea he suggested



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36591600)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 2:42 PM
Author: multi-colored magical heaven jew

Meanwhile in South Africa niggers are raping and boiling children alive. This guy is a hero for taking out this criminal trash

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36481762)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: bull headed thirsty stain

Charged with manslaughter:

https://abcnews.go.com/US/shooter-florida-stand-ground-case-charged-manslaughter/story?id=57151343

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36608896)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 2:41 PM
Author: Deep arousing round eye travel guidebook

Good. And that was a smart decision not to charge him with murder so that there aren't any riots over an acquittal. Jury will convict on manslaughter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36609412)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 2:43 PM
Author: clear locale

Fucking ridiculous if they convict even on manslaughter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36609427)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 2:47 PM
Author: Deep arousing round eye travel guidebook

Dude, that was cold blooded murder. Try being objective about this one.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36609448)



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Date: August 13th, 2018 2:48 PM
Author: domesticated coiffed party of the first part

LJL at Crump showing up without fail.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031270&forum_id=2#36609451)