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Adderall makes you stupid. It's official.
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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:05 AM Author: floppy violent parlour https://m.slashdot.org/story/343650
I knew it! I always refused to take this Yankee shit. I just knew it was designed to make you GCs slave and nothing else. |
Date: July 21st, 2018 10:15 AM Author: Balding cheese-eating round eye space then it's doubly impressive how fucking stupid you are unassisted. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470237) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:38 AM Author: drab community account temple (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470329) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:43 AM Author: bronze juggernaut cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470585) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:54 PM Author: bronze juggernaut cuck (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471102) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 8:52 AM Author: Mentally impaired mahogany circlehead doctorate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474011) |
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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:42 AM Author: Rusted titillating personal credit line (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474084) |
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Date: July 23rd, 2018 6:59 AM Author: talented crystalline heaven half-breed (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36479414) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:15 AM Author: curious ratface 13 people is a shit study (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470238) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:16 AM Author: floppy violent parlour Do better, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470242) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:24 AM Author: Hyperventilating property mother To the contrary. If they were getting statistically significant results in a study with only 13 people, that means the effect size is huge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470273) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:29 AM Author: curious ratface That's not contrary to what I said. The neurocognitive shit is table 1 and 3: "The study had high power to detect large effects, and lower power to detect moderate to small effects. As such the likelihood of Type II error is greater for small to medium effects. Findings with small to medium effect sizes (identified in Table 1 and Table 3) will require larger sample sizes in future work." And they were only testing these people with either 30mg of adderall or a placebo, which is an absurd dose |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:51 AM Author: Hyperventilating property mother it *is* contrary to what you said.
do you know what type II error is? |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:57 AM Author: curious ratface Yes. Do you know what reading comp is? Are you on adderall or something? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470635) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:06 PM Author: Hyperventilating property mother if the study was large enough to detect the effect that the authors were trying to detect, i'm not sure it was a "shit study" in any relevant way.
recruiting human subjects for medical research is expensive. |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:14 PM Author: Hairraiser Party Of The First Part Nibblets This line of thinking is seductive but wrong. Conditional on an underpowered study finding a statistically significant effect, that effect estimate is likely too large or in the wrong direction.
See Gelman and Carlin, “retrospective power analysis” paper. Use google. |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:35 PM Author: Hyperventilating property mother Good point. Obviously a larger sample size gives you a lower-variance estimate of the true effect size (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472114) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:19 AM Author: Big shitlib clown Did anyone ever claim it made you smarter? Study admits it improves attention (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470251) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:20 AM Author: floppy violent parlour While wrecking memory. Just stare at the wall for 4 hours retaining nothing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470257) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:21 AM Author: outnumbered school lol at wanting to 'retain' gc compliance manuals (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470264) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:22 AM Author: floppy violent parlour HR background checks are valid for 90 days, bro. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470266) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:58 AM Author: Swashbuckling Foreskin Mad-dog Skullcap stop saying "bro" at the end of every post. it doesn't make you sound cool. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470414) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:04 AM Author: floppy violent parlour Its supposed to annoy the fuck out of you. Mission accomplished. :-) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470441) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:05 AM Author: Hyperventilating property mother ;-) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470447) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:05 PM Author: Jet lascivious principal's office To be fair,
A real mystery why your people have continually been expelled and/or genocided everywhere they go for centuries. |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Wonderful university antidepressant drug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470734) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:39 AM Author: drab community account temple No addy user would deny it slightly impairs short-term memory while you're on it. The tradeoff in increased focus is worth it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470333) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:46 AM Author: cream faggotry Yes (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470363) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:14 PM Author: Swashbuckling Foreskin Mad-dog Skullcap cr and this forces you to be a better notetaker which - assuming you've already resigned yourself to being GC's bitch, which you have if you take addy in the first place - is a good thing. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470715) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:54 AM Author: disgusting pistol I used it once or twice and it was terrible. The most notable effect was the amphetamine/anti-depressant/not hungry/can't sleep feeling. It's good if you want to get drunk and then study after if that's your thing.
Memory is #1 when studying ffs... the increased attention will not stop the bro from checking his phone, or xoxo, or youtube, or whatever. The increased attention aspect only comes, imho, from the anti-depressant quality. It causes the depression/ignominy inherent to studying to be repressed. But it does not make a bro smarter. |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:57 AM Author: Swashbuckling Foreskin Mad-dog Skullcap you're a fucking mess (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470406) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:02 PM Author: disgusting pistol yeah ok pumo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470646) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:06 PM Author: Diverse Shrine Boiling Water (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470667) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:13 PM Author: nighttime multi-colored corner mediation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472021) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:34 AM Author: Slate dog poop whorehouse but it tastes like candy ! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470557) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:05 PM Author: 180 stage "Adderall, they posit, acts the same way. For people diagnosed with ADHD, it can help pull things into focus, but for everyone else, it’s not doing any favors, short of a quick shot of energy to the central nervous system. And let’s be real — we already have coffee for that."
This is fucking retarded |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:11 PM Author: Grizzly House Scourge Upon The Earth the only statistically significant finding (other than that the gakked-out students said they felt high) in this n=13 study was "Adderall worsened working memory on Digit Span Forward, t(12) = -1.80, p = 0.048"
p = 0.048
o what a definitive finding! |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 2:27 PM Author: Bateful karate 30mg of adderall gets you high? wow thanks, scientists! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471181) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:32 PM Author: Iridescent Theater Multi-billionaire This thread, especially the OP, is a perfect and specific display of how stupid ARE Reptile is. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471036) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:22 PM Author: Bisexual Stirring Hospital He really is awful. Amazing that xo has tolerated him for so long. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471497) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 2:58 PM Author: effete church building queen of the night Interesting and not surprising. A coworker of mine takes addy, then she gets those bloodshot eyes and dies a ton of work without stopping, then she looks for more work to don. It's pretty obvious when she is on it because one can get a feel for anothers's Vaseline capabilities after they gave worked together long enough. And what makes this study interesting to me us that, I have observed her shirt term memory failing to recall recently passed along inforamation quite a few times. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471361) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:02 PM Author: Trip gold hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471390) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:07 PM Author: irradiated tantric chad Adderall is not neurotoxic. It is true that other amphetamines are but adderall is not, there is no real evidence of it being neurotoxic. It can cause certain issues with dopamine receptors in the brain given prolonged use, but the effect is temporary and wears off (sometimes this can take months though.) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471417) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:17 PM Author: Trip gold hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471472) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:21 PM Author: irradiated tantric chad There is no evidence of neurotoxicity with adderall. You are likely talking about the dopamine issue but that is not an example of neurotoxicity because it does not create long term brain damage or mental problems. What does happen is that your body gets used to having its dopamine regulation system out of wack so it is not producing regular amounts of it without adderall. That is the source of both adderall tolerance and the tiredness/withdrawal effects once you stop taking it. Over time those problems in the brain fix themselves because your body's systems begin to get used to normality again .
Meth is not adderall, that is not how chemistry works. |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:39 PM Author: Trip gold hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471594) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:45 PM Author: irradiated tantric chad You are an idiot with no idea what you are talking about. To recreate neurotoxicity with adderall you would have to exceed the maximum therapeutic dose by many orders of magnitude
"one of the salts"
yeah exactly retard |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:48 PM Author: nighttime multi-colored corner mediation (MAF gakked out freak) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471633) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:52 PM Author: Trip gold hominid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471644) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:58 PM Author: irradiated tantric chad I'll explain this slowly: you cannot determine the effect of adderall using studies done on specific forms of amphetamine because it is explicitly designed based on the mix you use of those salts. The max therapeutic dose of adderall cannot under any circumstances reach a neurotoxic mix of them. Does that help you? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471659) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:59 PM Author: nubile institution (MAF gakked out addict vomiting up pills onto his keyboard) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471665) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:29 PM Author: magenta dragon What good is intelligence without concentration, particularly in typical school and work settings? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471542) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:50 PM Author: Cowardly nursing home That's my problem (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471637) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:42 PM Author: Vivacious aquamarine dopamine what about hepatoxic (liver) effects of Adderall? does regular addy use (20-30mg/day, let's say) compound the effects of a 3-5 drinks/day habit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471605) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:03 PM Author: Cowardly nursing home I wish I had taken this in lol school (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471679) |
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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:09 PM Author: angry prole hell A paper published in the journal "Pharmacy" by two female social scientists, with an incredibly dubious design in the first group and a sample size of 13 in the second group - finds the adderall doesn't make you smarter should be the headline here.
I'm fully open to the idea that long-term effects of addies tears holes in our brains, whatever, but it has to be better evidence than this. If you read the paper it's not nearly as detrimental as you seem to think - if anything believing the results here affirms that adderall should be taken on occasion to improve performance on time-sensitive testing / projects etc. |
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