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Adderall makes you stupid. It's official.

https://m.slashdot.org/story/343650 I knew it! I always r...
curious olive lettuce
  07/21/18
then it's doubly impressive how fucking stupid you are unass...
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Self-absorbed heaven
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Gay stead wrinkle
  07/22/18
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Useless haunted graveyard
  07/23/18
13 people is a shit study
orchid diverse institution
  07/21/18
Do better, bro.
curious olive lettuce
  07/21/18
To the contrary. If they were getting statistically signifi...
Swashbuckling idiotic theater stage
  07/21/18
That's not contrary to what I said. The neurocognitive shit ...
orchid diverse institution
  07/21/18
it *is* contrary to what you said. do you know what type ...
Swashbuckling idiotic theater stage
  07/21/18
Yes. Do you know what reading comp is? Are you on adderall o...
orchid diverse institution
  07/21/18
if the study was large enough to detect the effect that the ...
Swashbuckling idiotic theater stage
  07/21/18
This line of thinking is seductive but wrong. Conditional on...
Tripping territorial public bath
  07/21/18
Good point. Obviously a larger sample size gives you a lower...
Swashbuckling idiotic theater stage
  07/21/18
Did anyone ever claim it made you smarter? Study admits it ...
Multi-colored corner
  07/21/18
While wrecking memory. Just stare at the wall for 4 hours re...
curious olive lettuce
  07/21/18
lol at wanting to 'retain' gc compliance manuals
bistre main people address
  07/21/18
HR background checks are valid for 90 days, bro.
curious olive lettuce
  07/21/18
stop saying "bro" at the end of every post. it doe...
saffron parlour
  07/21/18
Its supposed to annoy the fuck out of you. Mission accomplis...
curious olive lettuce
  07/21/18
;-)
Swashbuckling idiotic theater stage
  07/21/18
To be fair, A real mystery why your people have continual...
Concupiscible Kitchen
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  07/21/18
No addy user would deny it slightly impairs short-term memor...
nighttime coral gaping really tough guy
  07/21/18
Yes
black office
  07/21/18
cr and this forces you to be a better notetaker which - assu...
saffron parlour
  07/21/18
I used it once or twice and it was terrible. The most notabl...
Startling crackhouse
  07/21/18
you're a fucking mess
saffron parlour
  07/21/18
yeah ok pumo
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Fluffy pea-brained locale
  07/21/18
but it tastes like candy !
White Fiercely-loyal Theater
  07/21/18
"Adderall, they posit, acts the same way. For people di...
adventurous blue center gaming laptop
  07/21/18
the only statistically significant finding (other than that ...
green stirring field
  07/21/18
30mg of adderall gets you high? wow thanks, scientists!
medicated vigorous den twinkling uncleanness
  07/21/18
This thread, especially the OP, is a perfect and specific di...
Fragrant cobalt cumskin stock car
  07/21/18
He really is awful. Amazing that xo has tolerated him for so...
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  07/21/18
Interesting and not surprising. A coworker of mine takes add...
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boyish ebony party of the first part headpube
  07/21/18
Adderall is not neurotoxic. It is true that other amphetamin...
irradiated space
  07/21/18
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boyish ebony party of the first part headpube
  07/21/18
There is no evidence of neurotoxicity with adderall. You are...
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boyish ebony party of the first part headpube
  07/21/18
You are an idiot with no idea what you are talking about. To...
irradiated space
  07/21/18
(MAF gakked out freak)
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boyish ebony party of the first part headpube
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I'll explain this slowly: you cannot determine the effect of...
irradiated space
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(MAF gakked out addict vomiting up pills onto his keyboard)
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What good is intelligence without concentration, particularl...
Flushed learning disabled location
  07/21/18
That's my problem
Floppy Mahogany State Karate
  07/21/18
what about hepatoxic (liver) effects of Adderall? does regul...
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  07/21/18
I wish I had taken this in lol school
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  07/21/18
A paper published in the journal "Pharmacy" by two...
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Tripping territorial public bath
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(fagg0t)
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? about your moniker - other than to identify yourself as a ...
Useless haunted graveyard
  07/22/18
(fagg0t)
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  07/22/18
hehe using a zero for the "o" in "faggot"...
Useless haunted graveyard
  07/22/18
both of you are niggers please shut up
Self-centered fat ankles library
  07/22/18
kill yourself kike
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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:05 AM
Author: curious olive lettuce

https://m.slashdot.org/story/343650

I knew it! I always refused to take this Yankee shit. I just knew it was designed to make you GCs slave and nothing else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470188)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: flatulent dashing box office

then it's doubly impressive how fucking stupid you are unassisted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470237)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:38 AM
Author: nighttime coral gaping really tough guy



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470329)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:43 AM
Author: navy passionate volcanic crater mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470585)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: navy passionate volcanic crater mad-dog skullcap



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471102)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 8:52 AM
Author: Self-absorbed heaven



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474011)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:42 AM
Author: Gay stead wrinkle



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474084)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 6:59 AM
Author: Useless haunted graveyard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36479414)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: orchid diverse institution

13 people is a shit study

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470238)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:16 AM
Author: curious olive lettuce

Do better, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470242)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:24 AM
Author: Swashbuckling idiotic theater stage

To the contrary. If they were getting statistically significant results in a study with only 13 people, that means the effect size is huge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470273)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: orchid diverse institution

That's not contrary to what I said. The neurocognitive shit is table 1 and 3:

"The study had high power to detect large effects, and lower power to detect moderate to small effects. As such the likelihood of Type II error is greater for small to medium effects. Findings with small to medium effect sizes (identified in Table 1 and Table 3) will require larger sample sizes in future work."

And they were only testing these people with either 30mg of adderall or a placebo, which is an absurd dose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470536)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:51 AM
Author: Swashbuckling idiotic theater stage

it *is* contrary to what you said.

do you know what type II error is?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470617)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: orchid diverse institution

Yes. Do you know what reading comp is? Are you on adderall or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470635)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: Swashbuckling idiotic theater stage

if the study was large enough to detect the effect that the authors were trying to detect, i'm not sure it was a "shit study" in any relevant way.

recruiting human subjects for medical research is expensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470670)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: Tripping territorial public bath

This line of thinking is seductive but wrong. Conditional on an underpowered study finding a statistically significant effect, that effect estimate is likely too large or in the wrong direction.

See Gelman and Carlin, “retrospective power analysis” paper. Use google.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472025)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: Swashbuckling idiotic theater stage

Good point. Obviously a larger sample size gives you a lower-variance estimate of the true effect size

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472114)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:19 AM
Author: Multi-colored corner

Did anyone ever claim it made you smarter? Study admits it improves attention

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470251)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: curious olive lettuce

While wrecking memory. Just stare at the wall for 4 hours retaining nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470257)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: bistre main people address

lol at wanting to 'retain' gc compliance manuals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470264)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:22 AM
Author: curious olive lettuce

HR background checks are valid for 90 days, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470266)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:58 AM
Author: saffron parlour

stop saying "bro" at the end of every post. it doesn't make you sound cool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470414)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:04 AM
Author: curious olive lettuce

Its supposed to annoy the fuck out of you. Mission accomplished. :-)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470441)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:05 AM
Author: Swashbuckling idiotic theater stage

;-)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470447)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: Concupiscible Kitchen

To be fair,

A real mystery why your people have continually been expelled and/or genocided everywhere they go for centuries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470664)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: Carnelian jap coldplay fan



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470734)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:39 AM
Author: nighttime coral gaping really tough guy

No addy user would deny it slightly impairs short-term memory while you're on it. The tradeoff in increased focus is worth it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470333)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:46 AM
Author: black office

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470363)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: saffron parlour

cr and this forces you to be a better notetaker which - assuming you've already resigned yourself to being GC's bitch, which you have if you take addy in the first place - is a good thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470715)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:54 AM
Author: Startling crackhouse

I used it once or twice and it was terrible. The most notable effect was the amphetamine/anti-depressant/not hungry/can't sleep feeling. It's good if you want to get drunk and then study after if that's your thing.

Memory is #1 when studying ffs... the increased attention will not stop the bro from checking his phone, or xoxo, or youtube, or whatever. The increased attention aspect only comes, imho, from the anti-depressant quality. It causes the depression/ignominy inherent to studying to be repressed. But it does not make a bro smarter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470389)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:57 AM
Author: saffron parlour

you're a fucking mess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470406)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: Startling crackhouse

yeah ok pumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470646)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: Wine razzle piazza



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470667)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: Fluffy pea-brained locale



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472021)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:34 AM
Author: White Fiercely-loyal Theater

but it tastes like candy !

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470557)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: adventurous blue center gaming laptop

"Adderall, they posit, acts the same way. For people diagnosed with ADHD, it can help pull things into focus, but for everyone else, it’s not doing any favors, short of a quick shot of energy to the central nervous system. And let’s be real — we already have coffee for that."

This is fucking retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470947)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:11 PM
Author: green stirring field

the only statistically significant finding (other than that the gakked-out students said they felt high) in this n=13 study was "Adderall worsened working memory on Digit Span Forward, t(12) = -1.80, p = 0.048"

p = 0.048

o what a definitive finding!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470967)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: medicated vigorous den twinkling uncleanness

30mg of adderall gets you high? wow thanks, scientists!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471181)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:32 PM
Author: Fragrant cobalt cumskin stock car

This thread, especially the OP, is a perfect and specific display of how stupid ARE Reptile is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471036)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:22 PM
Author: Disrespectful disturbing tanning salon

He really is awful. Amazing that xo has tolerated him for so long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471497)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 2:58 PM
Author: cowardly talented abode doctorate

Interesting and not surprising. A coworker of mine takes addy, then she gets those bloodshot eyes and dies a ton of work without stopping, then she looks for more work to don. It's pretty obvious when she is on it because one can get a feel for anothers's Vaseline capabilities after they gave worked together long enough. And what makes this study interesting to me us that, I have observed her shirt term memory failing to recall recently passed along inforamation quite a few times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471361)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: boyish ebony party of the first part headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471390)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: irradiated space

Adderall is not neurotoxic. It is true that other amphetamines are but adderall is not, there is no real evidence of it being neurotoxic. It can cause certain issues with dopamine receptors in the brain given prolonged use, but the effect is temporary and wears off (sometimes this can take months though.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471417)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: boyish ebony party of the first part headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471472)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:21 PM
Author: irradiated space

There is no evidence of neurotoxicity with adderall. You are likely talking about the dopamine issue but that is not an example of neurotoxicity because it does not create long term brain damage or mental problems. What does happen is that your body gets used to having its dopamine regulation system out of wack so it is not producing regular amounts of it without adderall. That is the source of both adderall tolerance and the tiredness/withdrawal effects once you stop taking it. Over time those problems in the brain fix themselves because your body's systems begin to get used to normality again .

Meth is not adderall, that is not how chemistry works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471488)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:39 PM
Author: boyish ebony party of the first part headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471594)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: irradiated space

You are an idiot with no idea what you are talking about. To recreate neurotoxicity with adderall you would have to exceed the maximum therapeutic dose by many orders of magnitude

"one of the salts"

yeah exactly retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471618)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: Fluffy pea-brained locale

(MAF gakked out freak)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471633)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: boyish ebony party of the first part headpube



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471644)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: irradiated space

I'll explain this slowly: you cannot determine the effect of adderall using studies done on specific forms of amphetamine because it is explicitly designed based on the mix you use of those salts. The max therapeutic dose of adderall cannot under any circumstances reach a neurotoxic mix of them. Does that help you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471659)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: emerald sadistic legal warrant

(MAF gakked out addict vomiting up pills onto his keyboard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471665)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: Flushed learning disabled location

What good is intelligence without concentration, particularly in typical school and work settings?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471542)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: Floppy Mahogany State Karate

That's my problem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471637)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: free-loading site

what about hepatoxic (liver) effects of Adderall? does regular addy use (20-30mg/day, let's say) compound the effects of a 3-5 drinks/day habit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471605)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: Floppy Mahogany State Karate

I wish I had taken this in lol school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471679)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: avocado exciting garrison internal respiration

A paper published in the journal "Pharmacy" by two female social scientists, with an incredibly dubious design in the first group and a sample size of 13 in the second group - finds the adderall doesn't make you smarter should be the headline here.

I'm fully open to the idea that long-term effects of addies tears holes in our brains, whatever, but it has to be better evidence than this. If you read the paper it's not nearly as detrimental as you seem to think - if anything believing the results here affirms that adderall should be taken on occasion to improve performance on time-sensitive testing / projects etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471706)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: Tripping territorial public bath



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472011)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 7:25 AM
Author: Yellow codepig

(fagg0t)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36473954)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:40 AM
Author: Useless haunted graveyard

? about your moniker - other than to identify yourself as a virgin queer who jerks off to Harry Potter, why did you select it??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474080)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:58 AM
Author: Sinister harsh azn locus

(fagg0t)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474115)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:10 AM
Author: Useless haunted graveyard

hehe using a zero for the "o" in "faggot" is so edgy and cool hehe the internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474150)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: Self-centered fat ankles library

both of you are niggers please shut up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474196)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: laughsome casino

kill yourself kike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474208)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:30 AM
Author: Self-centered fat ankles library

wow you sound so white

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474223)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 7:00 AM
Author: Useless haunted graveyard

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36479416)