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Adderall makes you stupid. It's official.

https://m.slashdot.org/story/343650 I knew it! I always r...
aquamarine irradiated dopamine
  07/21/18
then it's doubly impressive how fucking stupid you are unass...
odious fanboi school cafeteria
  07/21/18
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concupiscible emerald french chef rigor
  07/21/18
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Trip Den Trust Fund
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Trip Den Trust Fund
  07/21/18
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irate lascivious lettuce sanctuary
  07/22/18
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Bipolar Erotic Hominid
  07/22/18
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fishy galvanic party of the first part
  07/23/18
13 people is a shit study
Chestnut jew
  07/21/18
Do better, bro.
aquamarine irradiated dopamine
  07/21/18
To the contrary. If they were getting statistically signifi...
sooty dilemma
  07/21/18
That's not contrary to what I said. The neurocognitive shit ...
Chestnut jew
  07/21/18
it *is* contrary to what you said. do you know what type ...
sooty dilemma
  07/21/18
Yes. Do you know what reading comp is? Are you on adderall o...
Chestnut jew
  07/21/18
if the study was large enough to detect the effect that the ...
sooty dilemma
  07/21/18
This line of thinking is seductive but wrong. Conditional on...
fantasy-prone bat-shit-crazy stag film indirect expression
  07/21/18
Good point. Obviously a larger sample size gives you a lower...
sooty dilemma
  07/21/18
Did anyone ever claim it made you smarter? Study admits it ...
Curious private investor ape
  07/21/18
While wrecking memory. Just stare at the wall for 4 hours re...
aquamarine irradiated dopamine
  07/21/18
lol at wanting to 'retain' gc compliance manuals
Jet-lagged associate sandwich
  07/21/18
HR background checks are valid for 90 days, bro.
aquamarine irradiated dopamine
  07/21/18
stop saying "bro" at the end of every post. it doe...
Heady lay idiot
  07/21/18
Its supposed to annoy the fuck out of you. Mission accomplis...
aquamarine irradiated dopamine
  07/21/18
;-)
sooty dilemma
  07/21/18
To be fair, A real mystery why your people have continual...
insanely creepy wild shrine
  07/21/18
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well-lubricated umber theatre
  07/21/18
No addy user would deny it slightly impairs short-term memor...
concupiscible emerald french chef rigor
  07/21/18
Yes
twisted rose national shitlib
  07/21/18
cr and this forces you to be a better notetaker which - assu...
Heady lay idiot
  07/21/18
I used it once or twice and it was terrible. The most notabl...
stimulating self-centered new version mother
  07/21/18
you're a fucking mess
Heady lay idiot
  07/21/18
yeah ok pumo
stimulating self-centered new version mother
  07/21/18
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histrionic step-uncle's house digit ratio
  07/21/18
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doobsian yarmulke sex offender
  07/21/18
but it tastes like candy !
Titillating parlor
  07/21/18
"Adderall, they posit, acts the same way. For people di...
cerebral purple striped hyena site
  07/21/18
the only statistically significant finding (other than that ...
bateful honey-headed hell nowag
  07/21/18
30mg of adderall gets you high? wow thanks, scientists!
Opaque idiotic death wish
  07/21/18
This thread, especially the OP, is a perfect and specific di...
Contagious senate clown
  07/21/18
He really is awful. Amazing that xo has tolerated him for so...
Razzle-dazzle duck-like gas station circlehead
  07/21/18
Interesting and not surprising. A coworker of mine takes add...
Embarrassed To The Bone Box Office Foreskin
  07/21/18
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diverse painfully honest kitty
  07/21/18
Adderall is not neurotoxic. It is true that other amphetamin...
Hyperactive provocative plaza hairy legs
  07/21/18
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diverse painfully honest kitty
  07/21/18
There is no evidence of neurotoxicity with adderall. You are...
Hyperactive provocative plaza hairy legs
  07/21/18
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diverse painfully honest kitty
  07/21/18
You are an idiot with no idea what you are talking about. To...
Hyperactive provocative plaza hairy legs
  07/21/18
(MAF gakked out freak)
doobsian yarmulke sex offender
  07/21/18
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diverse painfully honest kitty
  07/21/18
I'll explain this slowly: you cannot determine the effect of...
Hyperactive provocative plaza hairy legs
  07/21/18
(MAF gakked out addict vomiting up pills onto his keyboard)
yellow stain cruise ship
  07/21/18
What good is intelligence without concentration, particularl...
violet fear-inspiring field coffee pot
  07/21/18
That's my problem
fragrant territorial market boltzmann
  07/21/18
what about hepatoxic (liver) effects of Adderall? does regul...
aphrodisiac ruby mad cow disease
  07/21/18
I wish I had taken this in lol school
fragrant territorial market boltzmann
  07/21/18
A paper published in the journal "Pharmacy" by two...
hairraiser home gay wizard
  07/21/18
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fantasy-prone bat-shit-crazy stag film indirect expression
  07/21/18
(fagg0t)
pale jewess
  07/22/18
? about your moniker - other than to identify yourself as a ...
fishy galvanic party of the first part
  07/22/18
(fagg0t)
Orchid set candlestick maker
  07/22/18
hehe using a zero for the "o" in "faggot"...
fishy galvanic party of the first part
  07/22/18
both of you are niggers please shut up
Swashbuckling lime resort
  07/22/18
kill yourself kike
metal base
  07/22/18
wow you sound so white
Swashbuckling lime resort
  07/22/18
?
fishy galvanic party of the first part
  07/23/18


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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:05 AM
Author: aquamarine irradiated dopamine

https://m.slashdot.org/story/343650

I knew it! I always refused to take this Yankee shit. I just knew it was designed to make you GCs slave and nothing else.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470188)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: odious fanboi school cafeteria

then it's doubly impressive how fucking stupid you are unassisted.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470237)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:38 AM
Author: concupiscible emerald french chef rigor



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470329)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:43 AM
Author: Trip Den Trust Fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470585)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:54 PM
Author: Trip Den Trust Fund



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471102)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 8:52 AM
Author: irate lascivious lettuce sanctuary



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474011)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:42 AM
Author: Bipolar Erotic Hominid



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474084)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 6:59 AM
Author: fishy galvanic party of the first part



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36479414)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: Chestnut jew

13 people is a shit study

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470238)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:16 AM
Author: aquamarine irradiated dopamine

Do better, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470242)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:24 AM
Author: sooty dilemma

To the contrary. If they were getting statistically significant results in a study with only 13 people, that means the effect size is huge.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470273)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:29 AM
Author: Chestnut jew

That's not contrary to what I said. The neurocognitive shit is table 1 and 3:

"The study had high power to detect large effects, and lower power to detect moderate to small effects. As such the likelihood of Type II error is greater for small to medium effects. Findings with small to medium effect sizes (identified in Table 1 and Table 3) will require larger sample sizes in future work."

And they were only testing these people with either 30mg of adderall or a placebo, which is an absurd dose

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470536)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:51 AM
Author: sooty dilemma

it *is* contrary to what you said.

do you know what type II error is?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470617)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: Chestnut jew

Yes. Do you know what reading comp is? Are you on adderall or something?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470635)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: sooty dilemma

if the study was large enough to detect the effect that the authors were trying to detect, i'm not sure it was a "shit study" in any relevant way.

recruiting human subjects for medical research is expensive.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470670)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: fantasy-prone bat-shit-crazy stag film indirect expression

This line of thinking is seductive but wrong. Conditional on an underpowered study finding a statistically significant effect, that effect estimate is likely too large or in the wrong direction.

See Gelman and Carlin, “retrospective power analysis” paper. Use google.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472025)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: sooty dilemma

Good point. Obviously a larger sample size gives you a lower-variance estimate of the true effect size

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472114)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:19 AM
Author: Curious private investor ape

Did anyone ever claim it made you smarter? Study admits it improves attention

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470251)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: aquamarine irradiated dopamine

While wrecking memory. Just stare at the wall for 4 hours retaining nothing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470257)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:21 AM
Author: Jet-lagged associate sandwich

lol at wanting to 'retain' gc compliance manuals

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470264)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:22 AM
Author: aquamarine irradiated dopamine

HR background checks are valid for 90 days, bro.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470266)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:58 AM
Author: Heady lay idiot

stop saying "bro" at the end of every post. it doesn't make you sound cool.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470414)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:04 AM
Author: aquamarine irradiated dopamine

Its supposed to annoy the fuck out of you. Mission accomplished. :-)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470441)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:05 AM
Author: sooty dilemma

;-)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470447)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:05 PM
Author: insanely creepy wild shrine

To be fair,

A real mystery why your people have continually been expelled and/or genocided everywhere they go for centuries.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470664)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:20 PM
Author: well-lubricated umber theatre



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470734)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:39 AM
Author: concupiscible emerald french chef rigor

No addy user would deny it slightly impairs short-term memory while you're on it. The tradeoff in increased focus is worth it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470333)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:46 AM
Author: twisted rose national shitlib

Yes

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470363)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:14 PM
Author: Heady lay idiot

cr and this forces you to be a better notetaker which - assuming you've already resigned yourself to being GC's bitch, which you have if you take addy in the first place - is a good thing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470715)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:54 AM
Author: stimulating self-centered new version mother

I used it once or twice and it was terrible. The most notable effect was the amphetamine/anti-depressant/not hungry/can't sleep feeling. It's good if you want to get drunk and then study after if that's your thing.

Memory is #1 when studying ffs... the increased attention will not stop the bro from checking his phone, or xoxo, or youtube, or whatever. The increased attention aspect only comes, imho, from the anti-depressant quality. It causes the depression/ignominy inherent to studying to be repressed. But it does not make a bro smarter.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470389)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 10:57 AM
Author: Heady lay idiot

you're a fucking mess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470406)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: stimulating self-centered new version mother

yeah ok pumo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470646)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 12:06 PM
Author: histrionic step-uncle's house digit ratio



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470667)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:13 PM
Author: doobsian yarmulke sex offender



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472021)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 11:34 AM
Author: Titillating parlor

but it tastes like candy !

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470557)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:05 PM
Author: cerebral purple striped hyena site

"Adderall, they posit, acts the same way. For people diagnosed with ADHD, it can help pull things into focus, but for everyone else, it’s not doing any favors, short of a quick shot of energy to the central nervous system. And let’s be real — we already have coffee for that."

This is fucking retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470947)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:11 PM
Author: bateful honey-headed hell nowag

the only statistically significant finding (other than that the gakked-out students said they felt high) in this n=13 study was "Adderall worsened working memory on Digit Span Forward, t(12) = -1.80, p = 0.048"

p = 0.048

o what a definitive finding!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36470967)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 2:27 PM
Author: Opaque idiotic death wish

30mg of adderall gets you high? wow thanks, scientists!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471181)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 1:32 PM
Author: Contagious senate clown

This thread, especially the OP, is a perfect and specific display of how stupid ARE Reptile is.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471036)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:22 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle duck-like gas station circlehead

He really is awful. Amazing that xo has tolerated him for so long.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471497)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 2:58 PM
Author: Embarrassed To The Bone Box Office Foreskin

Interesting and not surprising. A coworker of mine takes addy, then she gets those bloodshot eyes and dies a ton of work without stopping, then she looks for more work to don. It's pretty obvious when she is on it because one can get a feel for anothers's Vaseline capabilities after they gave worked together long enough. And what makes this study interesting to me us that, I have observed her shirt term memory failing to recall recently passed along inforamation quite a few times.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471361)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:02 PM
Author: diverse painfully honest kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471390)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:07 PM
Author: Hyperactive provocative plaza hairy legs

Adderall is not neurotoxic. It is true that other amphetamines are but adderall is not, there is no real evidence of it being neurotoxic. It can cause certain issues with dopamine receptors in the brain given prolonged use, but the effect is temporary and wears off (sometimes this can take months though.)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471417)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:17 PM
Author: diverse painfully honest kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471472)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:21 PM
Author: Hyperactive provocative plaza hairy legs

There is no evidence of neurotoxicity with adderall. You are likely talking about the dopamine issue but that is not an example of neurotoxicity because it does not create long term brain damage or mental problems. What does happen is that your body gets used to having its dopamine regulation system out of wack so it is not producing regular amounts of it without adderall. That is the source of both adderall tolerance and the tiredness/withdrawal effects once you stop taking it. Over time those problems in the brain fix themselves because your body's systems begin to get used to normality again .

Meth is not adderall, that is not how chemistry works.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471488)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:39 PM
Author: diverse painfully honest kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471594)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:45 PM
Author: Hyperactive provocative plaza hairy legs

You are an idiot with no idea what you are talking about. To recreate neurotoxicity with adderall you would have to exceed the maximum therapeutic dose by many orders of magnitude

"one of the salts"

yeah exactly retard

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471618)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:48 PM
Author: doobsian yarmulke sex offender

(MAF gakked out freak)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471633)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:52 PM
Author: diverse painfully honest kitty



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471644)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:58 PM
Author: Hyperactive provocative plaza hairy legs

I'll explain this slowly: you cannot determine the effect of adderall using studies done on specific forms of amphetamine because it is explicitly designed based on the mix you use of those salts. The max therapeutic dose of adderall cannot under any circumstances reach a neurotoxic mix of them. Does that help you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471659)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:59 PM
Author: yellow stain cruise ship

(MAF gakked out addict vomiting up pills onto his keyboard)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471665)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:29 PM
Author: violet fear-inspiring field coffee pot

What good is intelligence without concentration, particularly in typical school and work settings?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471542)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:50 PM
Author: fragrant territorial market boltzmann

That's my problem

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471637)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: aphrodisiac ruby mad cow disease

what about hepatoxic (liver) effects of Adderall? does regular addy use (20-30mg/day, let's say) compound the effects of a 3-5 drinks/day habit?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471605)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:03 PM
Author: fragrant territorial market boltzmann

I wish I had taken this in lol school

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471679)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: hairraiser home gay wizard

A paper published in the journal "Pharmacy" by two female social scientists, with an incredibly dubious design in the first group and a sample size of 13 in the second group - finds the adderall doesn't make you smarter should be the headline here.

I'm fully open to the idea that long-term effects of addies tears holes in our brains, whatever, but it has to be better evidence than this. If you read the paper it's not nearly as detrimental as you seem to think - if anything believing the results here affirms that adderall should be taken on occasion to improve performance on time-sensitive testing / projects etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36471706)



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Date: July 21st, 2018 5:12 PM
Author: fantasy-prone bat-shit-crazy stag film indirect expression



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36472011)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 7:25 AM
Author: pale jewess

(fagg0t)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36473954)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:40 AM
Author: fishy galvanic party of the first part

? about your moniker - other than to identify yourself as a virgin queer who jerks off to Harry Potter, why did you select it??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474080)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 9:58 AM
Author: Orchid set candlestick maker

(fagg0t)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474115)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:10 AM
Author: fishy galvanic party of the first part

hehe using a zero for the "o" in "faggot" is so edgy and cool hehe the internet

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474150)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:23 AM
Author: Swashbuckling lime resort

both of you are niggers please shut up

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474196)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:25 AM
Author: metal base

kill yourself kike

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474208)



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Date: July 22nd, 2018 10:30 AM
Author: Swashbuckling lime resort

wow you sound so white

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36474223)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 7:00 AM
Author: fishy galvanic party of the first part

?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4031582&forum_id=2#36479416)