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the NYT has had the unredacted Carter Page FISA application for a year

read this thread, its not speculation https://twitter.com...
mustard low-t prole
  07/23/18
Just read it. What’s the implication? I don’t know who t...
greedy crimson crackhouse french chef
  07/23/18
you should know who james wolfe (extremely senior administra...
mustard low-t prole
  07/23/18
Lmao jfc
Dull pistol property
  07/23/18
I guess I haven’t been following this page story this weeken...
greedy crimson crackhouse french chef
  07/23/18
the released version is heavily redacted but it shows that t...
mustard low-t prole
  07/23/18
Ty Is there a good breakdown of what the application sho...
greedy crimson crackhouse french chef
  07/23/18
https://themarketswork.com/2018/07/21/the-carter-page-fisa-a...
mustard low-t prole
  07/23/18
Well, one implication is that all of the claims that the dod...
learning disabled floppy parlour faggot firefighter
  07/23/18
...
Dull pistol property
  07/23/18
Pretty shady. AM radio was all over this this morning.
Heady milky university
  07/23/18
I have no idea what's he's trying to say about leak tracing ...
outnumbered senate double fault
  07/23/18
See here : https://money.cnn.com/2017/11/14/media/leak-inves...
mustard low-t prole
  07/23/18
I think Sundance is saying that the FISA warrant application...
Razzle-dazzle Roommate National
  07/23/18
Yes agreed
mustard low-t prole
  07/23/18
Also, apparently the FISA warrant was 82 pages of material. ...
Razzle-dazzle Roommate National
  07/23/18
*XO struggles to understand how certain courts and legal app...
excitant cowardly site nowag
  07/23/18
There's a 75% chance Carter Page is CIA.
Razzle-dazzle Roommate National
  07/23/18
There's a 75% chance Carter Page is CIA.
Razzle-dazzle Roommate National
  07/23/18
The FBI still hasn't interviewed Carter Page yet? LJL this w...
Insane scarlet associate
  07/23/18
didn't he ask Mueller to interview him but Mueller declined?
greedy crimson crackhouse french chef
  07/23/18
Yup.
learning disabled floppy parlour faggot firefighter
  07/23/18
That’s weird
Slate Sanctuary Turdskin
  07/23/18
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Razzle nofapping hospital black woman
  07/23/18
It is the definition of speculative, in my opinion. Just bec...
Beady-eyed Gunner
  07/23/18
Good response
mustard low-t prole
  07/23/18
It's plausible though. Sundance is nothing if not specula...
learning disabled floppy parlour faggot firefighter
  07/23/18
How do we know it was unredacted?
Dull pistol property
  07/23/18
That part is speculative but senate intelligence committee h...
mustard low-t prole
  07/23/18
Cr. Could just be the dacted version.
hateful bossy volcanic crater
  07/23/18


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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:53 AM
Author: mustard low-t prole

read this thread, its not speculation

https://twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1021245439427907586

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36478825)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:58 AM
Author: greedy crimson crackhouse french chef

Just read it. What’s the implication?

I don’t know who these people are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36478835)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:59 AM
Author: mustard low-t prole

you should know who james wolfe (extremely senior administrator within senate intelligence committee) and ali watkins (NYT reporter) are. they had an affair and he leaked her super sensitive info

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36478838)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 1:00 AM
Author: Dull pistol property

Lmao jfc

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36478839)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 1:02 AM
Author: greedy crimson crackhouse french chef

I guess I haven’t been following this page story this weekend at all No news for me at all. So the NYT has the unredacted fisa application for the past year. What have we learned about this application that makes this even more newsworthy?



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36478844)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 1:03 AM
Author: mustard low-t prole

the released version is heavily redacted but it shows that the application relied *to an extreme extent* on the unverified trump pissgate dossier. the signatories of the application stated under perjury that they had verified the information contained in the application.

keep in mind a title 1 FISA warrant on carter page allowed the FBI & DOJ to spy on anyone within two degrees of separation of the target. the purpose of a title 1 FISA warrant is basically to be used against terrorists to uncover their network.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36478846)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 1:06 AM
Author: greedy crimson crackhouse french chef

Ty

Is there a good breakdown of what the application showed anywhere?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36478852)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 1:07 AM
Author: mustard low-t prole

https://themarketswork.com/2018/07/21/the-carter-page-fisa-applications/

and

https://themarketswork.com/2018/07/22/questions-carter-page-fisa-applications/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36478859)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:27 PM
Author: learning disabled floppy parlour faggot firefighter

Well, one implication is that all of the claims that the dodgy Steele Dossier wasn't an important part of the FISA application (which NYT happily printed) they knew to be false.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480829)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 10:15 AM
Author: Dull pistol property



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36479955)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 10:56 AM
Author: Heady milky university

Pretty shady. AM radio was all over this this morning.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480163)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 11:21 AM
Author: outnumbered senate double fault

I have no idea what's he's trying to say about leak tracing starting here.

https://mobile.twitter.com/TheLastRefuge2/status/1021254360582541312

What aspect of the document was their tracing marker?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480333)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 11:23 AM
Author: mustard low-t prole

See here : https://money.cnn.com/2017/11/14/media/leak-investigations-jeff-sessions/index.html

The specific marker isn't known

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480348)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Roommate National

I think Sundance is saying that the FISA warrant application that was released is a copy of the application that was made on March 17, 2017. In the indictment against the Senate Staffer, it specifically says that on March 17, 2017, he received a top secret document that he then shared with that Ali Watkins reporter from the NYT. I believe this is the "connection" he's making between the two.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480652)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: mustard low-t prole

Yes agreed

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480666)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:11 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Roommate National

Also, apparently the FISA warrant was 82 pages of material. In the indictment, the Senate Staffer, James Wolf, sent 82 text messages of pictures to NYT reporter Ali Watkins, presumably each picture being a page of the FISA application.

That's quite the coincidence:

Copy of FISA application made on March 17, 2017. Application is 82 pages of material.

Senate Staffer Wolf is indicted for leaking classified info, specifically on March 17, 2017, and 82 text messages of pictures of the classified info were sent to Ali Watkins.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480725)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:07 PM
Author: excitant cowardly site nowag

*XO struggles to understand how certain courts and legal applications function*

"Surely the general public will understand this!"

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480696)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Roommate National

There's a 75% chance Carter Page is CIA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480790)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: Razzle-dazzle Roommate National

There's a 75% chance Carter Page is CIA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480791)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:21 PM
Author: Insane scarlet associate

The FBI still hasn't interviewed Carter Page yet? LJL this whole thing is ridiculous

But gotta talk to the NYC Madams

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480782)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:26 PM
Author: greedy crimson crackhouse french chef

didn't he ask Mueller to interview him but Mueller declined?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480822)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:28 PM
Author: learning disabled floppy parlour faggot firefighter

Yup.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480833)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:32 PM
Author: Slate Sanctuary Turdskin

That’s weird

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480849)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: Razzle nofapping hospital black woman



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480795)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:35 PM
Author: Beady-eyed Gunner

It is the definition of speculative, in my opinion. Just because Watkins may have received a version of the FISA application does not mean she shared it with NYT. What we know about her history indicates she actually was not entirely forthcoming with the NYT. She said nothing after her phone records were subpoena'd.

Her stories also reveal nothing I can see beyond what is in the redacted versions. So it is possible the Intel committee version was in fact heavily redacted to begin with. On the other hand, the FOIA release could simply have been redacted to match what has been publically disclosed through news articles and/or the Nunes memo.

Either way, just because the Intel committee can look at classified docs, doesn't mean the executive agencies have to give them full versions of everything. I don't understand why Ali or NYT would sit on potentially explosive information if it were damning against Trump.

The only interesting thing from the FISA application release that we didn't know is that it is the document leaked by Wolfe on March 17, 2017. It also further confirms that Senator Warner is a complete scumbag, as evidenced by him trying to setup back channel discussions with Christopher Steele on March 17.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480866)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: mustard low-t prole

Good response

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480909)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 1:26 PM
Author: learning disabled floppy parlour faggot firefighter

It's plausible though.

Sundance is nothing if not speculative. TCTH is best understood as the musings of a somewhat obsessive 100-IQ guy with too much time on his hands. He's good at looking for coincidences, even though he's often off the reservation after that.

Literally a former grocer too. Odd case.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36481159)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:36 PM
Author: Dull pistol property

How do we know it was unredacted?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480873)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: mustard low-t prole

That part is speculative but senate intelligence committee heads are allowed to see the top secret info that could have been otherwise redacted

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480921)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:45 PM
Author: hateful bossy volcanic crater

Cr. Could just be the dacted version.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032697&forum_id=2#36480923)