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Fishy area
  07/23/18
LOLNO Isn't it strange that Mueller--with his army of law...
Fishy area
  07/23/18
Trump said pussy
Peach Sound Barrier
  07/23/18
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galvanic toilet seat
  07/23/18
my lib friends would argue that he is saving the best for la...
nofapping library
  07/23/18
Your lib friends also held out hope for Pennsylvania and Wis...
cream idea he suggested
  07/23/18
I'd really like to believe that if Trump really did collude ...
copper stage hissy fit
  07/23/18
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Fishy area
  07/23/18
This is an excellent point. If Mueller et al. have the good...
Fishy area
  07/23/18
Trump, Jr. took a meeting with Russian agents for dirt on Hi...
Thirsty orchestra pit goyim
  07/23/18
LJL, what's to explain? He didn't get jack shit.
Fishy area
  07/23/18
so you're saying he was searching for evidence regarding cor...
vibrant corner philosopher-king
  07/23/18
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bespoke contagious wagecucks milk
  07/23/18
It's really not that weird to think that in the five months ...
Aggressive flirting marketing idea garrison
  07/23/18
I don’t agree with your sentiment, but you made me laugh wit...
marvelous son of senegal school
  07/23/18
I'd kind of expect investigating whether the POTUS is an act...
copper stage hissy fit
  07/23/18
Don't forget that when the government tries to use FISA in t...
Thirsty orchestra pit goyim
  07/23/18
Well, not exactly in the way I described... they relied heav...
copper stage hissy fit
  07/23/18
They were surveilling Manafort for two years prior to the Pa...
Aggressive flirting marketing idea garrison
  07/23/18
I won't presume the earlier 2014 Manafort warrant was illegi...
copper stage hissy fit
  07/23/18
No one's asking you to conclude he definitely knew of the ha...
Aggressive flirting marketing idea garrison
  07/23/18
Sure, it is "conceivable", but that does not have ...
copper stage hissy fit
  07/23/18
>Still, not the end of the world unless he coordinated wi...
Aggressive flirting marketing idea garrison
  07/23/18
Yes, like I said, if he was doing it with people in the camp...
copper stage hissy fit
  07/23/18
your lib friends are retarded
Chestnut Pervert
  07/23/18
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galvanic toilet seat
  07/23/18
1st and 3rd words are unnecessary
Frozen sickened candlestick maker
  07/23/18
you don't have lib friends. I mean, you don't have any fr...
titillating duck-like fanboi shrine
  07/23/18
settle down Ivan
180 french property clown
  07/23/18
(dejected lib who is frustrated that Mueller hasn't perp-wal...
Fishy area
  07/23/18
pour yourself some borscht and glass of vodka and try to rel...
180 french property clown
  07/23/18
Folks, this is a beautiful example of how this boart's ranci...
Fishy area
  07/23/18


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Date: July 23rd, 2018 11:52 AM
Author: Fishy area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36480607)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 11:57 AM
Author: Fishy area

LOLNO

Isn't it strange that Mueller--with his army of lawyers and unlimited taxpayer dollars--hasn't indicted anyone on even a single charge related to the Trump campaign allegedly colluding with the Kremlin to steal the 2016 election?

Russia conspiracy theorists love to trot out the number of indictments, but they can't explain why, in those reams of filings, there isn't one single charge related to the Trump campaign allegedly colluding with the Kremlin to steal the 2016 election. Not one. Odd, isn't it?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36480647)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: Peach Sound Barrier

Trump said pussy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36480650)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 3:25 PM
Author: galvanic toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36482118)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:00 PM
Author: nofapping library

my lib friends would argue that he is saving the best for last, that you have to go through the small fish to get to the big fish, etc.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36480663)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:10 PM
Author: cream idea he suggested

Your lib friends also held out hope for Pennsylvania and Wisconsin to go for Hillary in 2016.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36480720)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:19 PM
Author: copper stage hissy fit

I'd really like to believe that if Trump really did collude with Russia to steal the election, our intelligence and law enforcement agencies and their obscenely broad powers and data collection programs would collectively be able to figure that out quickly and convincingly enough that they could get congress to impeach and remove him from power.

The fact that they haven't, and haven't even charged "small fish" on anything related, would strike me as pretty damn concerning about their competence if it weren't more likely that they are in fact on a political witch hunt and have nothing to support the allegations.

So instead we're making a huge dog and pony show indicting unprosecutable Russians for exposing democrat corruption, and Manafort on unrelated old money laundering charges or whatever, and libs pretend that Mueller is inches away from reeling in Trump himself, just as soon as someone cracks and admits the whole thing and provides evidence that has somehow remained hidden from the many agencies investigating it for years now.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36480773)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: Fishy area



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36480837)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 2:06 PM
Author: Fishy area

This is an excellent point. If Mueller et al. have the goods on Trump, why are they hiding it from the American people? And why are they wasting time indicting random Russians who will never see the inside of a US courthouse?

The Trump-Russia conspiracy strains credulity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36481475)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: Thirsty orchestra pit goyim

Trump, Jr. took a meeting with Russian agents for dirt on Hillary Clinton. He initially lied and said it was regarding Russian adoptions, which is code for the Magnitsky Act. Explain?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36481855)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 2:59 PM
Author: Fishy area

LJL, what's to explain? He didn't get jack shit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36481903)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 5:35 PM
Author: vibrant corner philosopher-king

so you're saying he was searching for evidence regarding corruption related to hillary in order to protect america? and we're supposed to find this troubling?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36483011)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 2:12 PM
Author: bespoke contagious wagecucks milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36481519)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 2:22 PM
Author: Aggressive flirting marketing idea garrison

It's really not that weird to think that in the five months since Gates plead they've basically been sweating Manafort. In any mob case this would go the exact same way. Every Trumpmo poast about Mueller boils down to a random low level soldato sayin "the Feds ain't got nuthin on you, boss!"

Also I can tell from your poast here that you don't regularly work with Fed law enforcement. It's laughable how completely incompetent they are at using data they have available to do their work. They constantly need private sector interested parties to teach them basic concepts of data association. I have like 10% of my job that involves regular contact with (non-D.C.) Fed law enforcement, and it's like everyone you encounter is a 75 year old boomer trying to figure out how to respond to the evite to their grandkids birthday party.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36481604)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 2:25 PM
Author: marvelous son of senegal school

I don’t agree with your sentiment, but you made me laugh with that quote.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36481637)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 2:33 PM
Author: copper stage hissy fit

I'd kind of expect investigating whether the POTUS is an actual agent of a hostile foreign power/colluded with said power to steal the presidency to be approached significantly differently than investigating a mob boss, to be fair.

A mob boss isn't in the Oval Office driving US policy.

I'd hope such an investigation to literally save the legitimacy of the country would be a little speedier, a little more efficiently, and less-reliant on flipping low level proverbial goons. That's a good strategy when you lack unprecedented spying powers, sure. I don't know how much I should apply your analogy to investigating a president for pulling off an actual coup.

Also, I'm pretty sure that when mob bosses are under investigation, there is often quite a lot of reported information that makes the case fairly convincingly despite that information not necessarily being useful in court. We don't really have that here, despite the investigation being as high profile as it gets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36481689)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 2:53 PM
Author: Thirsty orchestra pit goyim

Don't forget that when the government tries to use FISA in the manner you described, RUSSIAN AGENT TRUMP and the Trumpists repeatedly attack the FBI for doing so.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36481866)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 3:00 PM
Author: copper stage hissy fit

Well, not exactly in the way I described... they relied heavily on the Steele dossier which they admittedly could not verify and was basically opposition research/manufactured dirt.

Did the FISA warrants end up catching team Trump red handed? No? So they got their spy warrants for everyone two degrees from Carter Page, and still can't charge anyone with anything relating to the central plot of the investigation?

And by "attack", you mean Trump criticized their abuse of spy powers while letting the investigation continue, right? Like, he could probably do a lot more to stop this if he really was hiding something and felt that the whole thing could blow up. It'd be politically damaging, but certainly not worse than actually being objectively exposed as a Russian agent.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36481909)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 4:55 PM
Author: Aggressive flirting marketing idea garrison

They were surveilling Manafort for two years prior to the Page FISA warrant. Were both of those Manafort FISA warrants also completely invalid because of the Steele dossier? Who exactly did Carter Page talk to that is so critical to the investigation? I thought he was a nobody bit player who never did anything and was not involved with campaign in any meaningful way. Would it not stand to reason that the wire on Carter Page didn't result in anything useful in the investigation? LOL at you Trumpmos fagging out "b-b-b-but Mueller didn't even want to interview Carter Page!!!" as if they weren't up on the main source the entire time. How do you explain away Manafort trying to sell his access to Deripaska hours after he was brought into the campaign? Are you honestly thinking that if that's how Manafort approached his role the Trump campaign right off the bat that it's inconceivable he could've known something about the hacking before it happened?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36482795)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 5:14 PM
Author: copper stage hissy fit

I won't presume the earlier 2014 Manafort warrant was illegitimate, but I don't know how that relates to the allegations of Trump colluding with Russians. I guess we'll have to wait and see but you're welcome to explain. If they really found anything, I'd hope they warned Trump (or better yet, charged him)

>Who exactly did Carter Page talk to that is so critical to the investigation? I thought he was a nobody bit player who never did anything and was not involved with campaign in any meaningful way.

Not sure who he talked to, or who the people he talked to talked to. Whether he was a bit player or not, I don't like abusing FISA by getting warrants based on the shady as fuck Steele dossier, which they did re Page.

>Would it not stand to reason that the wire on Carter Page didn't result in anything useful in the investigation?

I don't think that's the standard for obtaining a warrant or using information derived from the warrant. I haven't seen anything useful from that wire re Russian collusion, but I forget things sometimes.

>How do you explain away Manafort trying to sell his access to Deripaska hours after he was brought into the campaign?

Sounds like he was perhaps a selfish person, not sure if he was colluding with Russians to steal the election. I definitely won't conclude based on that that he was aware of Russian hacks before they happened. That's a monster leap.

And fwiw, these issues with Manafort seemed to be figured out pretty quickly. Odd how it would be so much more difficult to find any compelling evidence of election stealing.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36482887)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 5:30 PM
Author: Aggressive flirting marketing idea garrison

No one's asking you to conclude he definitely knew of the hacks a priori. We're criticizing you and your ilk for being so sure that there was no collusion when you had a shady as fuck campaign manager actively discussing how he could use his access to help GRU-affiliated Russian oligarchs the second he got in the door, then he engineered the ousting of the campaign manager and took his job. This kind of dirty trick is the hallmark of Roger Stone's entire career. That's not proof, but it's a reason to take seriously the parts of the investigation that seem to directly implicate these two obscenely shady people and not go along with the blatantly self-interested bitching of Trump to stop the FBI from investigating them. The fact that you would make up your mind that there's no possibility of collusion shows you're leaping to the conclusion you want to reach and giving the benefit of the doubt to people who don't deserve it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36482983)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 5:36 PM
Author: copper stage hissy fit

Sure, it is "conceivable", but that does not have much weight in any calculation that matters to me. If anyone can show Manafort knew about Russian hacks prior to them happening or anything close to that, it'll be a bigger deal than anything shown so far. Still, not the end of the world unless he coordinated with the campaign, imho, but a big deal.

>The fact that you would make up your mind that there's no possibility of collusion

I haven't. But I'll need some compelling evidence to believe it or want to throw out the president over it. Don't project others leaping to conclusions onto me, tyvm. Burden of proof sure as hell is not on me or Trump here.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36483018)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 5:42 PM
Author: Aggressive flirting marketing idea garrison

>Still, not the end of the world unless he coordinated with the campaign, imho, but a big deal.

LOL WTF? He was the campaign manager when the emails were released.

So to clarify: you're completely fine with the Mueller investigation proceeding, interviewing Trump and coming to whatever conclusions it reaches as long as those are based on the actual evidence they can use to support their findings? You don't agree with Trump and the House Intel Comm GOP that it's a witchhunt and needs to end now?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36483062)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 6:23 PM
Author: copper stage hissy fit

Yes, like I said, if he was doing it with people in the campaign, it's a much bigger deal than him doing it himself. Anyway, I don't think it's very plausible and not really worth discussing.

I think Mueller should run down what leads he has and wrap this shit up quick. Do I think it's a witch hunt, based more on politics and bias than probable cause? Quite likely. But, because this is of such tremendous importance, the actual legitimacy of our nation, I'm also sympathetic to it continuing despite the tree being significantly poisoned. There's a small chance they'll find something, and I'm not entirely against even bending the rules to actually prevent a coup by a hostile power.

With that said, if Mueller et all drag this shit out and come up with nothing much more than they have already, with backing from Dem congressmen alleging treason, I sincerely hope the democrats and all of Trump's enemies cheering this shit on like they've already proven their case are thoroughly shamed and disavowed by all reasonable people, forever.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36483364)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 2:46 PM
Author: Chestnut Pervert

your lib friends are retarded

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36481799)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 3:25 PM
Author: galvanic toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36482121)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 5:15 PM
Author: Frozen sickened candlestick maker

1st and 3rd words are unnecessary

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36482897)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 5:36 PM
Author: titillating duck-like fanboi shrine

you don't have lib friends.

I mean, you don't have any friends.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36483020)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 2:44 PM
Author: 180 french property clown

settle down Ivan

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36481781)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 2:51 PM
Author: Fishy area

(dejected lib who is frustrated that Mueller hasn't perp-walked Drumpf out of the oval office yet)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36481842)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 3:14 PM
Author: 180 french property clown

pour yourself some borscht and glass of vodka and try to relax

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36482019)



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Date: July 23rd, 2018 3:24 PM
Author: Fishy area

Folks, this is a beautiful example of how this boart's rancid shitlibs lash out when they have no substantive rebuttal.

Dear unhinged conspiracy theorist pumo: Please keep up the good work. You guys are constantly exposing the vacuity of shitlib ideology.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4032921&forum_id=2#36482115)