YLS profs in WaPo: We need "court balancing" not "court packing"
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Date: July 28th, 2018 1:15 PM Author: orchid theatre
https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/democrats-need-a-plan-b-for-the-supreme-court-heres-one-option/2018/07/27/4c77fd4e-91a6-11e8-b769-e3fff17f0689_story.html
Ian Ayres and John Fabian Witt are professors at Yale Law School.
Democrats this summer are wringing their hands over whether to oppose Judge Brett M. Kavanaugh’s nomination to the Supreme Court. Liberal candidates and organizations are gearing up to oppose him, and for understandable reasons: His confirmation would shift the court decisively to the right. But with Republican control of the Senate, Kavanaugh’s confirmation is highly likely. From certain liberal perspectives, Kavanaugh may even be preferable to the alternatives, who would almost certainly be confirmed if he isn’t. A generational transformation in the court is in the offing. Senate Minority Leader Charles E. Schumer (D-N.Y.) and company may soon need a bold Plan B. Here’s one: court balancing.
Schumer and his House counterpart, Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.), should announce that Democrats intend to pursue a balancing of the Supreme Court if Democrats retake control of Congress and the presidency in 2020. Nothing in the Constitution requires nine justices on the court, as there are today. The court originally had six seats. It expanded and contracted in the first half of the 19th century, then settled on nine. It has remained there since 1869, partly as a political norm and partly to preserve competitive equilibrium.
Both political parties understand that bald attempts to dominate the court by adding seats would be met with a tit-for-tat response by the other party when in power. The specter of a hyper-political court of ever-increasing numbers reeks of authoritarian states such as Hungary and Poland. It appeals to few. That is why “court packing” is one of the most controversial threads in the history of American politics. But court balancing by adding two seats at this moment in history would come with its own built-in constraint. By connecting the proposal to the constitutional wound of the Senate’s failing to consider the nomination of Merrick Garland in 2016, Democrats can apply crampons to stop the partisan slide to ever more justices.
At crucial moments in U.S. politics, parties have acted to change the size of the Supreme Court. Often the tactic was a political power play. But sometimes it was undertaken for the good of the country, as during the Civil War, when the Republican Congress in 1863 added a seat to the court in part to protect the success of the war effort against formidable legal challenges.
The Democrats’ court-balancing proposal for 2020 should commit the party to expanding the size of the Supreme Court by appointing two new federal judges who, by statute, would be designated to sit on the court for 18 years; thereafter, the constitutionally required life tenure would be served in lower federal courts. If Democrats took control of Congress and the presidency in 2020, the new administration would effectively have two Supreme Court slots to fill immediately. The party should commit to nominate one liberal (say, the liberal analog of Justice Neil M. Gorsuch) and to fill the other spot by renominating the liberal-centrist Garland himself.
The balancing plan would be a temporary intervention tailored to rectify the Senate’s prior dereliction in the Garland nomination. It would not radically expand the Supreme Court, but it would place Garland, for a limited time, in the likely swing vote position he would have occupied had Senate Republicans permitted a confirmation vote in 2016. After 18 years, the statutory designation of these two judges to hear Supreme Court cases would end and the court would revert to nine justices.
By proposing the court balancing specifically to address the Garland travesty, Democrats would have a principled reason, subject to the American electorate’s approval, for altering the size of the court. The GOP could choose to run on its own platform of court expansion. The deciders would be the American people.
There are other proposals Democrats ought to consider, too, such as ending the lifetime terms for Supreme Court justices. A statute might designate all future Supreme Court seats as 18-year terms, with justices sitting on the court by designation, followed by life tenure on the lower federal bench. The constitutionality of such a move is disputed, but it would be worth trying. The vagaries of justices’ deaths and retirements should not throw American democracy into tumult. Even better, Congress should endorse a constitutional amendment (already supported by many prominent constitutional lawyers) establishing term limits for all future justices. In the meantime, court rebalancing is a strategy for mobilizing Democrats without misleading the party’s base, without triggering an uncontrolled race to increase the court’s size — and without waving a white flag of surrender.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4037004&forum_id=2#36513161) |
Date: July 28th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: Onyx casino faggotry
"Authoritatian states like Poland"
Huh??
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4037004&forum_id=2#36513220) |
Date: July 28th, 2018 1:36 PM Author: marvelous rough-skinned persian property
If you call it Court packing it’s authortarian but if you carefully change the name to court balancing and explain that it’s meant to make our guy the swing vote on the court then it’s a-ok.
Dat YLS intellectual firepower!
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4037004&forum_id=2#36513239)
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Date: July 28th, 2018 6:02 PM Author: Mildly autistic orchestra pit
Dems really can't stand not having power. It's like they're still drunk from the Obama years and were waiting for the coup de grace when they'd create a lib perma-majority on SCOTUS to fulfill 40 years worth of lib professors' hopes and dreams. Trump came along and ruined everything. So now we have to entertain Court packing proposals and have lib profs call it "balancing" like they've cracked the code for message framing.
Or libs can try to win in 2020 and replace Thomas when he croaks, creating a lib majority.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4037004&forum_id=2#36514192) |
Date: July 28th, 2018 10:51 PM Author: Rusted Police Squad
To be fair,
Let's say--just for argument's sake--that they have a reasonable point with respect to Garland/Gorsuch. They don't, but I get why they're pissed about that, and I don't think you necessarily have to be unhinged to be pissed about that, so let's just concede that point for the sake of the argument.
What's their argument for why they should also logically get to appoint a *second* SCOTUS Justice to counterbalance Kavanaugh? This article doesn't advance any argument that Trump wasn't duly elected, or that Kennedy was somehow unlawfully or unethically forced/pressured to retired. So what's the logical basis that allegedly underpins why Democrats should also get to respond to Kavanaugh in any wany--i.e., counterbalance the appointment of a new justice by a lawfully elected sitting president in response to the voluntarily retirement of a current justice who elected to leave the bench during his term?
I ask because these are highly educated and highly intelligent YLS professors, not some random faggot Daily Kos bloggers or something. So I would expect them to offer at least *some* superficial gloss that purports to extend beyond "Fuck Trump and fuck conservatives the Democrats must win at all costs" (even if that's really what's at work)--but I'm not really seeing it here. Serious question.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4037004&forum_id=2#36515219) |
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Date: July 28th, 2018 11:03 PM Author: Rusted Police Squad
To be fair,
I mean, he's not, by any reasonable metric. And even if he was (he's not), Garland clearly isn't an analog to him politically--Garland is far to the left of Kennedy on most if not all issues, and that's easily provable by just comparing their extensive judicial decision-making records. So that can't be the argument, because replacing Kennedy with Garland probably moves that spot about as far to the left as replacing Kennedy with Kavanaugh moves it to the right--i.e., *neither* of those appointments will preserve the "balance" of that spot in any meaningful way.
But even if that *was* the argument, why would Democrats have any logical claim to "rectify an injustice" with respect to the Kavanaugh appointment--unless Trump stole the election (which this article is not claiming)? If this article was proposing that they expand the court to 10 and appoint Garland (to counterbalance Gorsuch), I could understand that. I think that's laughable and ridiculous, but I could at least understand the logical basis for the proposal. But I genuinely don't see why they think they have any standing at all to "respond" to the appointment of Kavanaugh by expanding the court further to any degree, even for a "limited" period of time. And again, let me be clear: the only reason I'm expecting *some* ostensible nod towards rationality in this proposal (even if it's a shitty smokescreen) is because these are fucking YLS professors, not MSNBC talking heads. These are smart and educated people who are trained and paid to construct logical arguments, even if those arguments are made in service of advancing stupid bullshit. But I'm not even seeing the purported logic that allegedly unpins half of their proposal. Can anyone tell me what I'm missing?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4037004&forum_id=2#36515281) |
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