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Optimal Weightlifting split for newbie

Trying to get back into shape. Lost a bunch of muscle over t...
sooty boistinker
  08/14/18
Day 1: 3x5 squat, 3x5 bench press, 3x10 back exercise (your ...
lemon useless meetinghouse
  08/15/18
This sounds credited. Can I add things like deadlift or bice...
sooty boistinker
  08/15/18
it's necessary to add additional exercises. anything without...
racy plaza
  08/15/18
whats the point of this flame? lateral raises, calves, and s...
Cobalt Alcoholic Bawdyhouse Affirmative Action
  08/15/18
you need to hit tris calves, otoh, are genetic
Opaque Candlestick Maker
  08/15/18
Absolutely, you can do 1x5 deadlift in place of the weighted...
lemon useless meetinghouse
  08/15/18
Sounds good to me. I'm actually more worried about injury do...
sooty boistinker
  08/15/18
Do the "valsalva" maneuver while squatting and mak...
lemon useless meetinghouse
  08/15/18
Good alternatives to squats?
Self-centered orchestra pit
  08/15/18
Front squats, box squats, single-leg leg press, good morning...
lemon useless meetinghouse
  08/15/18
Does valsalva fix butt wink?
multi-colored sweet tailpipe
  08/15/18
No, but it helps protect your spine. A raised heel can help ...
lemon useless meetinghouse
  08/15/18
How big of a problem is but wink? I’ve read conflicting thin...
multi-colored sweet tailpipe
  08/15/18
I have always had a bit of butt wink myself, it's just the w...
lemon useless meetinghouse
  08/15/18
Thanks bro. Last question, do you know anything about groin/...
multi-colored sweet tailpipe
  08/15/18
To be honest I don't know about what you're experiencing spe...
lemon useless meetinghouse
  08/15/18
This sounds intense for a mid 30s bro who plays a sport 2-3x...
Self-centered orchestra pit
  08/15/18
20 mins of lifting 3 days per week?
racy plaza
  08/15/18
Seems like you would not be able to perform at a high level ...
Self-centered orchestra pit
  08/15/18
I feel like your body would get used to it. I'm 31 and his s...
sooty boistinker
  08/15/18
Just say fuck the bro science and rotate 25 min lifts with t...
soul-stirring striped hyena
  08/15/18
emphasizing proper form over amount of weight will pay huge ...
gold charismatic reading party
  08/15/18
There’s so much terrible advice in this thread that I don’t ...
Medicated tantric cruise ship
  08/15/18
Seriously. No mention of pull ups. Barely any chest. Too m...
Azure Dashing Jew
  08/15/18
This is the split I started out with and I got jacked. Da...
Thriller parlour partner
  08/15/18
https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.mm.bin...
lemon useless meetinghouse
  08/15/18
...
Thriller parlour partner
  08/15/18
taint slams are cr. hard to get enough gooch activation with...
frisky field corn cake
  08/15/18
yeah its good to mix in because it loosens you up for the hi...
Thriller parlour partner
  08/15/18
wtf are any of these
Opaque Candlestick Maker
  08/15/18
be honest, do you even lift?
frisky field corn cake
  08/16/18
i can't bench 315, so no
Opaque Candlestick Maker
  08/16/18
...
Burgundy embarrassed to the bone police squad new version
  08/15/18
can you repost that link
Thriller parlour partner
  08/15/18
yeah, i deleted my post because i misread the title, thought...
Burgundy embarrassed to the bone police squad new version
  08/16/18
how many reps/sets also how experienced were you with oly...
Thriller parlour partner
  08/16/18
i did it for a couple years, wasnt crazy experienced. just g...
Burgundy embarrassed to the bone police squad new version
  08/16/18
you cant get enough of gay sex sites, can you?
hairless keepsake machete
  08/16/18
(guy who is barely taint slamming 115)
Thriller parlour partner
  08/16/18
Go for a walk instrad.
Vengeful institution messiness
  08/16/18
...
hairless keepsake machete
  08/16/18


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Date: August 14th, 2018 11:58 PM
Author: sooty boistinker

Trying to get back into shape. Lost a bunch of muscle over the last year. Assume you had to play a sport (basketball) twice per week, what kind of schedule would you keep for lifting?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36618787)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 1:00 AM
Author: lemon useless meetinghouse

Day 1: 3x5 squat, 3x5 bench press, 3x10 back exercise (your choice of dumbbell row/barbell row/cable row)

Day 2: 3x8 weighted back extensions, 3x5 overhead press, 3x10 back exercise (different choice than day 1)

Alternate days 1 and 2

Try to train 3x per week



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36619103)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 10:20 PM
Author: sooty boistinker

This sounds credited. Can I add things like deadlift or bicep curls or dips ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624076)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 10:22 PM
Author: racy plaza

it's necessary to add additional exercises. anything without dips, lateral raises, rows, lunges, calves, skull crushers etc. is a dad workout

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624088)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 10:33 PM
Author: Cobalt Alcoholic Bawdyhouse Affirmative Action

whats the point of this flame? lateral raises, calves, and skull crushers are necessary? ljl

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624173)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:58 PM
Author: Opaque Candlestick Maker

you need to hit tris

calves, otoh, are genetic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624720)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 10:22 PM
Author: lemon useless meetinghouse

Absolutely, you can do 1x5 deadlift in place of the weighted back extensions... the back extensions are just the "safer" choice if you are a 30s-mo worried about injury which most of this board is. If you want big guns go for 5x10 bicep curls 1x per week with relatively light weights.

And squat deep, no parallel or higher junk.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624092)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 10:25 PM
Author: sooty boistinker

Sounds good to me. I'm actually more worried about injury doing ATG squats than with doing deadlift.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624114)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: lemon useless meetinghouse

Do the "valsalva" maneuver while squatting and make sure your form is solid, knees out, don't bounce on your knees at the bottom and your chance of injury is extremely low. For extra peace of mind you could buy some high-quality knee sleeves that you slip on for squats.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624184)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 10:39 PM
Author: Self-centered orchestra pit

Good alternatives to squats?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624212)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 10:47 PM
Author: lemon useless meetinghouse

Front squats, box squats, single-leg leg press, good mornings, deadlifts, weighted back extensions... but none are as good as squats

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624258)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 10:41 PM
Author: multi-colored sweet tailpipe

Does valsalva fix butt wink?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624227)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 10:47 PM
Author: lemon useless meetinghouse

No, but it helps protect your spine. A raised heel can help butt wink immensely, particularly a proper weightlifting shoe

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624261)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 10:55 PM
Author: multi-colored sweet tailpipe

How big of a problem is but wink? I’ve read conflicting things

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624298)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:01 PM
Author: lemon useless meetinghouse

I have always had a bit of butt wink myself, it's just the way I'm built (super-tight calves and hamstrings), but it's never caused an issue after years of weight training and I've squatted 345 and deadlifted 445. Just like back rounding while deadlifting, people only focus on it (not incorrectly, per se) but miss the more important issue, which is that you first build up the supporting musculature by starting your progression at modest poundages, and learn how to brace your core properly (and use valsalva). If you do those things then it won't matter that much if there's a bit of butt wink. And in any case a proper weightlifting shoe might remove all your butt wink instantly.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624332)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:41 PM
Author: multi-colored sweet tailpipe

Thanks bro. Last question, do you know anything about groin/hip pain when squatting? When I go parallel I can feel something pinching in my groin hip area, not sure exactly where. It’s not really painful but I’m worried about what will happen once I lift heavier.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624594)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:49 PM
Author: lemon useless meetinghouse

To be honest I don't know about what you're experiencing specifically, but I'll say that it is pretty rare for there to be acute injuries in weightlifting unless you're attempting to lift way over your abilities... most injuries are chronic and you can see/feel them coming and adjust. If you start at a modest weight for 3x5, then add 5 pounds each time, you should be fine, and if it ever starts to become an issue just back off. Following a squat progression properly for 6 months often has the effect of curing people's injuries by correcting muscle imbalances, rather than causing injury.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624649)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 10:24 PM
Author: Self-centered orchestra pit

This sounds intense for a mid 30s bro who plays a sport 2-3x a week

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624107)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 10:25 PM
Author: racy plaza

20 mins of lifting 3 days per week?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624118)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 10:28 PM
Author: Self-centered orchestra pit

Seems like you would not be able to perform at a high level in sports if you're training 3x a week like that

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624135)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 10:29 PM
Author: sooty boistinker

I feel like your body would get used to it. I'm 31 and his split seems pretty easy to me provided proper nutrition

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624145)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 10:41 PM
Author: soul-stirring striped hyena

Just say fuck the bro science and rotate 25 min lifts with the understanding that

1. Deadlift is most important. Dont overdo it and no one gives a fuck how much you can lift. Its a lower back exercise so dont overstrain your lower back. Bitch weight is fine. This is to be done on back day.

2. Free squats are king. Much like deadlift no one fucking cares how much you can do and if youre over 22 and not a pro athelete dont get under significant weight. It works a lot of muscle groups.

3. For chest dumbels are best but barbels and machines are fine in that order.

4. Other than that, just do whatever you want. Reps dont matter. Honestly, no real need for three sets.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624225)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 10:52 PM
Author: gold charismatic reading party

emphasizing proper form over amount of weight will pay huge dividends; get strength trainer instruction if necessary to show u how, spot and monitor progress

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624278)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: Medicated tantric cruise ship

There’s so much terrible advice in this thread that I don’t really know where to start.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624427)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:56 PM
Author: Azure Dashing Jew

Seriously. No mention of pull ups. Barely any chest. Too much legs for someone who isn't an athlete

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624702)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:49 PM
Author: Thriller parlour partner

This is the split I started out with and I got jacked.

Day 1:

Detonator Skips (1x10, 1x8, 1x5, 1x3, 1xMAX)

Jack Slings (3x8-12)

Super set Doo Wops (4x10) with Knuckle Hammers (4x10)

Super set Donkey Punches (4x10) with Rotary Slips (4x10)

For abs just do a bunch of Gut-Thrusters until you start cramping

DAY 2:

Sphincter Decompressions (5x5)

Heel Licks (4x10)

Taint Slams (5x5)

Longrange Hipshots (4x10)

Shoulder Clicks (5x5)

Reverse Incline Ankle Fucks (4x10)

Then do Cankle Splitters for abs

Make sure to supplement this with lots of hard cheeses. Cheddar will be your go to but be sure to mix in some Parmesan post-workout and Swiss on cheat days. Add salt.

Do lots of esophagal stretching too. If you don't your lungs might explode if you go too hard on Donkey Punches.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624643)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:52 PM
Author: lemon useless meetinghouse

https://proxy.duckduckgo.com/iu/?u=https%3A%2F%2Ftse2.mm.bing.net%2Fth%3Fid%3DOIP.bmldQPxQ3cos4e1pJ5zgygHaFj%26pid%3D15.1&f=1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624664)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: Thriller parlour partner



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624726)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:54 PM
Author: frisky field corn cake

taint slams are cr. hard to get enough gooch activation without doing isolation exercises.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624688)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: Thriller parlour partner

yeah its good to mix in because it loosens you up for the hipshots and ankle fucks

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624724)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:59 PM
Author: Opaque Candlestick Maker

wtf are any of these

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624730)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: frisky field corn cake

be honest, do you even lift?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624733)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 12:02 AM
Author: Opaque Candlestick Maker

i can't bench 315, so no

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624744)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:57 PM
Author: Burgundy embarrassed to the bone police squad new version



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624706)



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Date: August 15th, 2018 11:58 PM
Author: Thriller parlour partner

can you repost that link

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624719)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: Burgundy embarrassed to the bone police squad new version

yeah, i deleted my post because i misread the title, thought it said "olympic weightlifing" instead of optimal.

https://www.catalystathletics.com/article/1686/The-Simplest-Olympic-Weightlifting-Program-in-the-World/

used to train at this gym - they're 180

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624734)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 12:04 AM
Author: Thriller parlour partner

how many reps/sets

also how experienced were you with olympic lifts? i havent done them since hs

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624753)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 12:13 AM
Author: Burgundy embarrassed to the bone police squad new version

i did it for a couple years, wasnt crazy experienced. just gotta make sure you still have the flexibility/hip and shoulder mobility to do them properly.

here's another way to train with sets/reps included:

http://web.archive.org/web/20140421065134/http://www.pendlay.com:80/A-Training-System-for-Beginning-Olympic-Weightlifters_df_90.html

most of the time you want to do sets of 2 reps and singles, sometimes triples, never more than 3 reps. 5 sets for 2-3 reps, or 10 singles is pretty common.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624801)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: hairless keepsake machete

you cant get enough of gay sex sites, can you?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624742)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 12:02 AM
Author: Thriller parlour partner

(guy who is barely taint slamming 115)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624750)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 12:01 AM
Author: Vengeful institution messiness

Go for a walk instrad.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624738)



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Date: August 16th, 2018 12:02 AM
Author: hairless keepsake machete



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4052285&forum_id=2#36624746)