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Prenda porn troll lawyer pleads guilty to fraud, faces PMITA prison time
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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:12 PM Author: Dashing ruddy piazza mental disorder Prosbros agree to seek no more than 12.5 years
In short: they uploaded porn to torrent sites, conducted discovery to get the identities of downloaders and then shook them down for settlements.
They got millions in settlements and didn't tell the court that they were they copyright holders & original torrent uploaders |
Date: August 17th, 2018 6:14 PM Author: Nubile Plum Antidepressant Drug Court: Those Are Cohen's Benefits! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635154) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:19 PM Author: Dashing ruddy piazza mental disorder Here's the plea agreement:
https://www.scribd.com/document/386437696/Mnd-16-Cr-00334-Jne-Kmm-Document-103 |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:20 PM Author: diverse gaped travel guidebook office So much work went into this fraud, all for 3 million dollars over the course of several years? They basically could have billed legitimate work to reach those same numbers. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635172) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:21 PM Author: Nubile Plum Antidepressant Drug some people insist on getting enjoyment from their work (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635178) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:29 PM Author: Dashing ruddy piazza mental disorder It was a pretty short period of time
Also, $3M might have been a bit on the low side; $3M is just what they are stipulating to. There were a lot of offshore transactions and IRS CI isn't as omniscient as people like to like to think |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:02 PM Author: sticky obsidian den It was way more than 3 MM (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635505) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:54 PM Author: Dashing ruddy piazza mental disorder 'Steele told Forbes magazine that his firm had filed over 350 lawsuits against more than 20,000 people, resulting in "a little less than $15 million" in settlements.[43]'
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Prenda_Law |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:22 PM Author: Blathering Heaven Who is giving shitlawyers like this 3 million dollars worth of work to bill against? Your run of the mill shitlaw practitioner is barely clearing 100k a year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635645) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:30 PM Author: Dashing ruddy piazza mental disorder Cr, these guys were fairly fresh (2007) Minnesota LS grads that apparently didn't get good work, so they struck out on their own doing this in 2010 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635693) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:53 PM Author: Beta pontificating kitty cat Plus they got to film their own porn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635847) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:25 PM Author: Flushed Rambunctious Dog Poop how is that illegal? seems smart to catch people stealing shit you own. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635191) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 6:36 PM Author: sticky obsidian den This article doesn’t accurately describe what they did. They sure a bunch of people who didn’t download anything too and extorted money from them. They committed forgery and all other kinds of shenanigans too. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635253) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:15 PM Author: Amber idiot gay wizard If you are intentionally inducing people to download your shit, then downloading your shit isn't really infringement. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635603) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:25 PM Author: Dashing ruddy piazza mental disorder Cr
There were some other fraudulent claims too. The courts started to slow their discovery on the copyright suits, so these guys started going into court and falsely claiming that they were the victims of a hacking attack, and that they needed the courts to help them unmask the hackers. They used the results of discovery from the fake hacking cases to shake down more downloaders |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:54 PM Author: bespoke haunted graveyard Yep, these dudes were deep in a hole and kept digging. Their scheme was superficially ok. You could definitely get away with (not that your should) the basic upload and sue model but they went way past that. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635853) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 8:00 PM Author: flesh brunch They didn't own the copyrights. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635888) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 7:57 PM Author: Vibrant low-t legal warrant stag film people were dumb enough to pay? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36635870) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 8:00 PM Author: flesh brunch Non-lawyers ashamed of their porn habits def pay.
So no one who poasts here. |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 8:52 PM Author: Nubile Plum Antidepressant Drug (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36636137) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:36 PM Author: opaque free-loading mad cow disease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36636541) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 8:05 PM Author: Dashing ruddy piazza mental disorder Lots of people did. What would you rather do:
A) Pay $3k and not have a porn suit come up when your name is Googled
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B) Get sued, let the entire world know what your taste in porn is, and still have to pay thousands to just to have a lawyer defend you |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 8:43 PM Author: Electric dark meetinghouse depressive demand letter said "if you do not pay, we will sue you in the public record for uploading [name of crazy porn movie.]"
people paid. |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:34 PM Author: crawly khaki business firm apparently his dad is a bar association ethics mucky muck. His wife, also a lawyer, is doing ADA "drive by lawsuits." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36636539) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:41 PM Author: Vibrant low-t legal warrant stag film this guy? http://www.johnsteelelaw.com/John_Steele_Law/Welcome.html (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36636559) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 11:33 PM Author: Dashing ruddy piazza mental disorder Nah that's the wrong John Steele. Also it's Hansmeier with the lawyer dad
John Steele IRL is a shortmo with some vaguely charismatic good looks. I got the impression that he might have been exmilitary or something but IDK |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 11:30 PM Author: Dashing ruddy piazza mental disorder Paul Hansmeier was doing the shakedown ADA suits with his wife after the copyright trolling stuff got fully exposed and while he still had a valid bar admission.
How LOL is it that your dad is supposedly a legal ethics expert like that but you're about to do a decade in prison for some super unethical bullshit? |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:39 PM Author: opaque free-loading mad cow disease I think these ppl tried to sue me once, but I'd torrented the file using my law school's network.
My law school's IT essentially wrote me an email confirming that I'd DLed the following file:
BABYSITTERS TAKING ON BLACK COCK
and asking me to affirm that I'll abide by the law school's terms and conditions. |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:40 PM Author: opaque free-loading mad cow disease this is the scene. totally worth it.
https://media.8ch.net/file_store/a63d9d9032c559664018033c6337b1600471e8927cf1328b8b3da89fd8b09b89.webm |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:39 PM Author: crawly khaki business firm "I'm a free man, and I haven't had a conjugal visit in six months." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36636551) |
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Date: August 17th, 2018 10:42 PM Author: opaque free-loading mad cow disease Ullysius P. Hansmeier (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4054365&forum_id=2#36636561) |