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any inhouse mos regret making the jump?

need to build up courage
Beta Property Nowag
  09/06/18
...
Twinkling supple gas station
  12/19/18
youll never get the feeling of the bright lights of biglaw a...
Blue indian lodge psychic
  09/06/18
brighter when I'm leaving the office at 2am
Beta Property Nowag
  09/06/18
just be more chill
Blue indian lodge psychic
  09/06/18
no time to chill is the issue
Beta Property Nowag
  09/06/18
just leave the office bro
Blue indian lodge psychic
  09/06/18
these firedrills follow me nights and weekends. I know there...
Beta Property Nowag
  09/06/18
(Harrison Barnes)
honey-headed cruel-hearted pocket flask
  09/07/18
There are a few posters who do and complain about in house b...
startled windowlicker
  09/06/18
it's a large startup (over 1k employees) but still growing, ...
Beta Property Nowag
  09/06/18
I personally don’t give a shit about the work, but if you ca...
startled windowlicker
  09/06/18
You are married, no? I would be the breadwinner. Good comp f...
Beta Property Nowag
  09/06/18
money to your kids doesn’t make for not spending time with t...
startled windowlicker
  09/06/18
You probably won’t make partner anyway
Twisted Chapel
  09/06/18
In good biglaw gigs you draft pleadings, negotiate with oppo...
glittery skinny woman idiot
  09/07/18
Lol at this. Ohhhhh, you get to draft a 10b-5 motion and em...
startled windowlicker
  09/07/18
what is a 10b-5 motion
White Athletic Conference
  09/07/18
Motion to dismiss a 10b-5 claim. I worked on a lot of “high...
startled windowlicker
  09/07/18
Where does one go for intellectual work?
Tan federal potus milk
  09/07/18
Inhouse
Silver bawdyhouse
  09/07/18
Go be a professor or something if you want intellectual work...
startled windowlicker
  09/07/18
Sorry you had such a shifty biglaw gig. Sounds like your exp...
glittery skinny woman idiot
  09/07/18
My biglaw experience was decent compared to others, as I onl...
startled windowlicker
  09/07/18
I’m in a specilized litigstion group and I do find it legiti...
glittery skinny woman idiot
  09/07/18
Trials?
Tan federal potus milk
  09/07/18
Yes, we do trials, though not often.
glittery skinny woman idiot
  09/07/18
Personal Injury ?
bronze insecure whorehouse
  09/07/18
Well glad you found your niche, but that doesn’t apply to yo...
startled windowlicker
  09/07/18
...
Silver bawdyhouse
  09/07/18
Seems lame as fuck.
carmine cerebral address
  09/06/18
What are your chances at brikkfuss?
Tan federal potus milk
  09/06/18
I'm well [e: regarded] but will likely burnout first. Also f...
Beta Property Nowag
  09/06/18
Lol at having this debate if you don’t even like your firm.
maroon kitchen telephone
  09/06/18
Lmao great typo
Silver bawdyhouse
  09/06/18
I thought he meant it as is, like he wouldn’t make partner. ...
maroon kitchen telephone
  09/06/18
...
Silver bawdyhouse
  09/06/18
I guess “well-retarded” was a typo.
maroon kitchen telephone
  09/07/18
...
copper stage
  09/06/18
lmao
Jet Cruise Ship
  09/06/18
Going inhouse and having a shitty boss or shitty clients can...
talking university
  09/06/18
What's the math on your 30%? How much does inhouse pay do...
Abnormal stirring partner
  09/06/18
The best in-house is a base salary ~60 percent of biglaw and...
maroon kitchen telephone
  09/06/18
Let's talk real numbers, so $230k all in?
Abnormal stirring partner
  09/06/18
That would be low after 3-4 years in house. Most of my frie...
startled windowlicker
  09/06/18
In are country it's 10-20% lower than this, but most firms a...
talking university
  09/06/18
how many years total experience do they usually have? 8+? 10...
chestnut anal hissy fit water buffalo
  09/06/18
10 years now. Maybe 25% make over $300k-$350k+ based on my ...
startled windowlicker
  09/06/18
I'd be up for partner now and I make $330 all in.
maroon kitchen telephone
  09/07/18
What kind of crummy non-market firm is that at?
glittery skinny woman idiot
  09/07/18
Re-read subthread and OP, then let me know if you’re still c...
maroon kitchen telephone
  09/07/18
Pls rephrase to eliminate the ambiguity in your writing. Th...
glittery skinny woman idiot
  09/07/18
I'd be up for partner now, had I not gone in-house, and I ma...
maroon kitchen telephone
  09/07/18
The pay is more like $450,000 for a senior associate versus ...
glittery skinny woman idiot
  09/07/18
I have panic attacks thinking about going back. I will li...
maroon kitchen telephone
  09/06/18
(Goy with no discipline )
Tan federal potus milk
  09/06/18
bigly
aqua boiling water abode
  09/06/18
nope
Umber friendly grandma liquid oxygen
  09/06/18
Fuck no -- in house life is 180 as fuck. Love it. Make not t...
hairraiser iridescent base
  09/06/18
Just looked it up and i'm only $55k below where i'd be if I ...
hairraiser iridescent base
  09/06/18
If you were sill in biglaw you would be making close to $500...
glittery skinny woman idiot
  09/07/18
I intentionally left out bonuses...
hairraiser iridescent base
  09/07/18
Right so you really make 150,000+ less at your in house job
slimy thriller theater sandwich
  09/07/18
...
honey-headed cruel-hearted pocket flask
  09/07/18
Lol
Cobalt church private investor
  09/06/18
Dude with all the free time you get if you spend any of it i...
Cobalt church private investor
  09/06/18
while the 10x seems unlikely, a side hustle would def be cre...
Beta Property Nowag
  09/07/18
what if you spend all that time on xo
Blue indian lodge psychic
  09/07/18
20x
Cobalt church private investor
  09/07/18
every day trial was the only thing that made this sham wort...
Multi-colored marketing idea
  09/07/18
...
Multi-colored marketing idea
  09/07/18
I regret my decision, sure. Firm life is a pain in the ass, ...
Spectacular plaza
  09/07/18
I could never handle this shit. Biglaw is miserable hell but...
Khaki state
  09/07/18
Go work in house somewhere other than a large corporation. ...
startled windowlicker
  09/07/18
This is the other option. Currently working in multi-nationa...
Spectacular plaza
  09/07/18
if theyre any good those get bought by PE shithouses
aqua boiling water abode
  09/07/18
Cr. Firms suck too- I've just come to realize I cant functi...
aqua boiling water abode
  09/07/18
Yep, I never thought id prefer firm life to big corp. but he...
Spectacular plaza
  09/08/18
God no.
Titillating hall useless brakes
  09/07/18
Funny how the only people who unequivocally say “no” are you...
Tan federal potus milk
  09/07/18
Plenty of people saying unequivocal no on this thread.
startled windowlicker
  09/07/18
OP asked about in house, not being a compliance monkey
Violet vigorous set main people
  09/07/18
Nope, not a compliance monkey.
Titillating hall useless brakes
  09/07/18
I would like a firm I could call my own Call me 3AM on th...
Blue indian lodge psychic
  09/07/18
Ljl at fish. What year exactly did you make this jump, buddy...
Cerise Double Fault Forum
  09/07/18
He didn’t jump so much as fall, no?
Bonkers Lascivious Spot
  09/07/18
He should go opine in the "Anyone here shitcanned and g...
Cerise Double Fault Forum
  09/07/18
...
Violet vigorous set main people
  09/07/18
...
Tan federal potus milk
  09/07/18
absolutely devastating
aqua boiling water abode
  09/07/18
...
Bonkers Lascivious Spot
  09/07/18
...
Bonkers Lascivious Spot
  09/07/18
...
Mint Galvanic Dilemma Wagecucks
  09/08/18
Loled
brass motley house feces
  09/08/18
Not really, but my team is super chill and, while I may not ...
Stubborn Heady Locale Roommate
  09/07/18
Were you considering Europe once? What happened
Cerise Double Fault Forum
  09/07/18
Yea. Rejected it because it put our family in a worst off po...
Stubborn Heady Locale Roommate
  09/07/18
180. I'm considering Paris right now but I'd prefer not to ...
Cerise Double Fault Forum
  09/07/18
Oh, shit. Have we emailed? Best of luck, brother.
Stubborn Heady Locale Roommate
  09/10/18
lol at TMF
aqua boiling water abode
  09/07/18
what are all of these $400k+ chill in house jobs everyone se...
curious orchestra pit
  09/07/18
basically threw away my legal "career" by leaving ...
aqua boiling water abode
  09/07/18
When did you leave?
Bonkers Lascivious Spot
  09/07/18
4th year
aqua boiling water abode
  09/07/18
You a tranny? 4th year is not too early at all
Bonkers Lascivious Spot
  09/07/18
yes. unless you're coming in at a VP/AGC number 2 type leve...
aqua boiling water abode
  09/07/18
JFC at staying in tranny biglaw for more than 4 years. thats...
Tan federal potus milk
  09/07/18
if i did it all over again but for some reason still took lo...
aqua boiling water abode
  09/07/18
why did you do tranny originaally. were you INTERESTED IN BU...
Tan federal potus milk
  09/07/18
im fluent in X language and thought id be going back abroad ...
aqua boiling water abode
  09/07/18
Biglaw sucks though bro. DESCRIBE the cuck GC
Tan federal potus milk
  09/07/18
im going to get too angry thinking about "him". m...
aqua boiling water abode
  09/07/18
"the GC as a dickless TMF-like non-male" WTF, w...
Titillating hall useless brakes
  09/08/18
Your mileage may vary. Really depends on how bad biglaw was...
ultramarine bbw codepig
  09/07/18
climbing the ladder at a banks legal dept sounds like hell, ...
Tan federal potus milk
  09/07/18
Eh, you leave at 6 everyday id imagine
ultramarine bbw codepig
  09/07/18
This, basically. There are shitty things about both, but if ...
Exhilarant Effete Headpube
  09/08/18
Why not do 400k 9-5 in house??
brass motley house feces
  09/08/18
Timely. Thinking about the same thing. Actually really like ...
drab macaca station
  09/08/18
Exactly. For the first time (after multiple laterals), I am ...
Beta Property Nowag
  09/09/18
Just don't enter your time until the end of the month
Violet vigorous set main people
  09/09/18
from a financial independence/leaving-the-law standpoint, th...
wonderful becky shitlib
  02/19/19
"boosters burn out" = assuming no breakfast?
Beta Property Nowag
  02/21/19
if u're able to get breakfast, that's like getting an extra ...
wonderful becky shitlib
  02/27/19
lol
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  02/21/19
...
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  02/21/19


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Date: September 6th, 2018 12:55 PM
Author: Beta Property Nowag

need to build up courage

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36756818)



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Date: December 19th, 2018 9:31 AM
Author: Twinkling supple gas station



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#37432233)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 12:57 PM
Author: Blue indian lodge psychic

youll never get the feeling of the bright lights of biglaw again. huge mistake

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36756827)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 12:57 PM
Author: Beta Property Nowag

brighter when I'm leaving the office at 2am

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36756831)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 12:58 PM
Author: Blue indian lodge psychic

just be more chill

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36756841)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: Beta Property Nowag

no time to chill is the issue

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36756855)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: Blue indian lodge psychic

just leave the office bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36756858)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:04 PM
Author: Beta Property Nowag

these firedrills follow me nights and weekends. I know there are tradeoffs when going in house, but want to hear if anyone regrets making the jump on the whole

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36756878)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 5:29 AM
Author: honey-headed cruel-hearted pocket flask

(Harrison Barnes)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36761645)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:02 PM
Author: startled windowlicker

There are a few posters who do and complain about in house being soul killing and not intellectually stimulating or whatever. As if checking commas or drafting 100 rogs is any better.

Most don’t regret it though.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36756871)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:22 PM
Author: Beta Property Nowag

it's a large startup (over 1k employees) but still growing, so it seems the work would be pretty varied

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36757003)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:32 PM
Author: startled windowlicker

I personally don’t give a shit about the work, but if you care, the work is going to be more “exciting” in a law firm.

I only care about the hours and no billing, nice people who aren’t demanding, and the job security of not being in an up and out situation. I would say comp too but frankly I was willing to take low-100s when I was looking so comp really wasn’t much of a factor at all for why I made the switch. If those are your reasons and you don’t care that much about the work, then you won’t regret it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36757095)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 4:19 PM
Author: Beta Property Nowag

You are married, no? I would be the breadwinner. Good comp for now but no partner money down the road. Would be trading my 30s for my kids being wealthy, I guess

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36758147)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 6:02 PM
Author: startled windowlicker

money to your kids doesn’t make for not spending time with them when young. Firm life doesn’t allow for that.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36758872)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 9:56 PM
Author: Twisted Chapel

You probably won’t make partner anyway

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36760399)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 5:06 AM
Author: glittery skinny woman idiot

In good biglaw gigs you draft pleadings, negotiate with opposing parties on the substance of cases, and advise on strategy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36761632)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:42 AM
Author: startled windowlicker

Lol at this. Ohhhhh, you get to draft a 10b-5 motion and email the client the draft and advice on “next steps.” So interesting! My first year, I was on a trial team in Delaware chancery and I was defending and taking depos as a 3rd year. It’s all shit, esp when you realize none of your so called “experience” is transferable and means anything to any other job outside biglaw lit.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36762268)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:43 AM
Author: White Athletic Conference

what is a 10b-5 motion

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36762275)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:51 AM
Author: startled windowlicker

Motion to dismiss a 10b-5 claim. I worked on a lot of “high profile” securities fraud and m&a cases esp after 08 financial crisis and discovery was always stayed pending the motion to dismiss so I didn’t have to do much nitty gritty discovery work as an associate. This was considered “sexy” biglaw work. It is neither intellectual nor interesting, no matter how you cut it. Biglaw is not where one goes to use ones’s brain, if that’s what you’re into.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36762320)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 10:29 AM
Author: Tan federal potus milk

Where does one go for intellectual work?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36762585)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 10:34 AM
Author: Silver bawdyhouse

Inhouse

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36762618)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 11:41 AM
Author: startled windowlicker

Go be a professor or something if you want intellectual work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763073)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 11:30 AM
Author: glittery skinny woman idiot

Sorry you had such a shifty biglaw gig. Sounds like your experience was very different from mine. Sad for you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36762991)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 11:46 AM
Author: startled windowlicker

My biglaw experience was decent compared to others, as I only billed 2150 my busiest year and I worked with mostly sane people. What laughable is that type of biglaw work, having been at a v10 and a v50 is anywhere what anybody would describe as being “intellectual,” unless you count somebody taking on a pro bono project or you’re an associate in some appellate practice in DC. And if you do find it interesting, there is something severely wrong with you.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763106)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 12:43 PM
Author: glittery skinny woman idiot

I’m in a specilized litigstion group and I do find it legitimately interesting. There is zero BS work (almost no discovery, no motions to dismiss, etc.). It’s all pleadings on the merits, negotiations/settlements, deals, and giving advice to the clierts. Deal directly with clients, opposing counsel, and business folks on a daily basis.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763393)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: Tan federal potus milk

Trials?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763399)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: glittery skinny woman idiot

Yes, we do trials, though not often.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763492)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: bronze insecure whorehouse

Personal Injury ?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763416)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 1:30 PM
Author: startled windowlicker

Well glad you found your niche, but that doesn’t apply to your average biglaw lit associate.

And it’s kinda funny that you point out interaction with clients and business folks as “interesting” things when it’s uniformly better to be the client where you’re dealing with business folks constantly and farming out the legal work to biglaw so you don’t have to stay up late and deal with fire drills.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763783)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: Silver bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763884)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:03 PM
Author: carmine cerebral address

Seems lame as fuck.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36756875)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:09 PM
Author: Tan federal potus milk

What are your chances at brikkfuss?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36756905)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:23 PM
Author: Beta Property Nowag

I'm well [e: regarded] but will likely burnout first. Also firm is cheap and PPP is not great

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36757016)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:42 PM
Author: maroon kitchen telephone

Lol at having this debate if you don’t even like your firm.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36757152)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:46 PM
Author: Silver bawdyhouse

Lmao great typo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36757171)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:49 PM
Author: maroon kitchen telephone

I thought he meant it as is, like he wouldn’t make partner. But lmao if it’s a typo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36757183)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 3:43 PM
Author: Silver bawdyhouse



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36757869)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 12:40 PM
Author: maroon kitchen telephone

I guess “well-retarded” was a typo.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763379)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:56 PM
Author: copper stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36757221)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 2:00 PM
Author: Jet Cruise Ship

lmao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36757238)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:11 PM
Author: talking university

Going inhouse and having a shitty boss or shitty clients can be almost as bad as the median biglaw experience. It's not a guarantee of an upgrade day-to-day, but like a 90% chance of an upgrade and maybe a 20-30% chance of a huge upgrade if you actually like your boss, peers, clients and the overall business. It's a no brainer when you also factor in the relatively higher level of job security overall (though there are of course exceptions and specific types of downside to those exceptions).

I get people who stay in biglaw because they have a partner who protects them, trained/trains them, and they reasonably expect to make partner and have a future at the firm. But people who stay because they make ~30% more money before taxes depending on bonuses and because they believed all the Harrison Barnes stretch 4 inhouse flame are LJL idiots.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36756919)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:13 PM
Author: Abnormal stirring partner

What's the math on your 30%?

How much does inhouse pay do you think?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36756933)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:42 PM
Author: maroon kitchen telephone

The best in-house is a base salary ~60 percent of biglaw and a bonus/deferred comp portion that is close to Biglaw base & bonus. After three or four years, depending on vest schedule, you will make senior associate money for the rest of your career, but you’ll be used to living on 60 percent of that.

And if you’re actually good enough to become GC you’ll make seven figures.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36757149)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 2:02 PM
Author: Abnormal stirring partner

Let's talk real numbers,

so $230k all in?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36757245)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 2:38 PM
Author: startled windowlicker

That would be low after 3-4 years in house. Most of my friends make $250-$300k all in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36757426)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 3:42 PM
Author: talking university

In are country it's 10-20% lower than this, but most firms also pay less.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36757860)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 7:41 PM
Author: chestnut anal hissy fit water buffalo

how many years total experience do they usually have? 8+? 10+?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36759391)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 7:51 PM
Author: startled windowlicker

10 years now. Maybe 25% make over $300k-$350k+ based on my guess (if they’re working at like Netflix google amazon etc.).

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36759436)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 8:53 AM
Author: maroon kitchen telephone

I'd be up for partner now and I make $330 all in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36762065)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 11:31 AM
Author: glittery skinny woman idiot

What kind of crummy non-market firm is that at?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763002)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 12:40 PM
Author: maroon kitchen telephone

Re-read subthread and OP, then let me know if you’re still confused.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763377)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 12:44 PM
Author: glittery skinny woman idiot

Pls rephrase to eliminate the ambiguity in your writing. Thanks.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763406)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 5:15 PM
Author: maroon kitchen telephone

I'd be up for partner now, had I not gone in-house, and I make $330 all in.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36765516)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 5:12 AM
Author: glittery skinny woman idiot

The pay is more like $450,000 for a senior associate versus $210,000 for in house. So more like 100% more before taxes.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36761638)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:37 PM
Author: maroon kitchen telephone

I have panic attacks thinking about going back.

I will likely never make seven figures, inflation adjusted, but you still make very good money for dat upper middle class. And when a third of your pay is deferred comp you don’t get lifestyle creep and can retire at 55. I can’t even understand all the 60-year-old partners who are practically paycheck to paycheck. If you’re disciplined you can retire from Biglaw at 45, but literally no one does.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36757125)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 3:16 PM
Author: Tan federal potus milk

(Goy with no discipline )

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36757667)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 1:46 PM
Author: aqua boiling water abode

bigly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36757168)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 9:52 PM
Author: Umber friendly grandma liquid oxygen

nope

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36760370)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 9:52 PM
Author: hairraiser iridescent base

Fuck no -- in house life is 180 as fuck. Love it. Make not that much less than if I was still in biglaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36760375)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 9:58 PM
Author: hairraiser iridescent base

Just looked it up and i'm only $55k below where i'd be if I stayed in biglaw.

Probably make more than i'd be making if I jumped to midlaw.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36760409)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 5:13 AM
Author: glittery skinny woman idiot

If you were sill in biglaw you would be making close to $500k with your bonuses.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36761639)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: hairraiser iridescent base

I intentionally left out bonuses...



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36764460)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 11:37 PM
Author: slimy thriller theater sandwich

Right so you really make 150,000+ less at your in house job

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36767473)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 5:30 AM
Author: honey-headed cruel-hearted pocket flask



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36761647)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 10:02 PM
Author: Cobalt church private investor

Lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36760429)



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Date: September 6th, 2018 10:11 PM
Author: Cobalt church private investor

Dude with all the free time you get if you spend any of it investing or building a business you'll make 10x what you would have in biglaw in a fraction of the time

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36760486)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 1:37 AM
Author: Beta Property Nowag

while the 10x seems unlikely, a side hustle would def be credited. Please begin crowdsourcing after-hour biz ideas w me. I'll start: frozen smoothie packets, just add water.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36761454)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 4:22 AM
Author: Blue indian lodge psychic

what if you spend all that time on xo

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36761618)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 5:21 AM
Author: Cobalt church private investor

20x

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36761640)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 2:10 AM
Author: Multi-colored marketing idea

every day

trial was the only thing that made this sham worthwhile

the THEATER, the SHOW!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36761518)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 5:16 PM
Author: Multi-colored marketing idea



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36765526)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 4:43 AM
Author: Spectacular plaza

I regret my decision, sure. Firm life is a pain in the ass, but I have found the corporate ladder is even worse in other ways. It's a cucked form of lawyering and can be soul crushing if you're an entrepreneurial/sociable (lol) lawyer. I'm setting myself up to go solo in the next 2 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36761627)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:45 AM
Author: Khaki state

I could never handle this shit. Biglaw is miserable hell but at least you don't have to deal with gay-ass fluff like "team building" exercises and constant corporate meetings. Everyone is too grim and type A to do anything but work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36762285)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:55 AM
Author: startled windowlicker

Go work in house somewhere other than a large corporation. No corporate ladder bs, no bureaucracy.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36762335)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 12:37 PM
Author: Spectacular plaza

This is the other option. Currently working in multi-national hell.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763361)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 3:21 PM
Author: aqua boiling water abode

if theyre any good those get bought by PE shithouses

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36764761)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 1:00 PM
Author: aqua boiling water abode

Cr. Firms suck too- I've just come to realize I cant function in a corporate deskjob environment while I still have my cock and balls intact.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763521)



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Date: September 8th, 2018 4:09 AM
Author: Spectacular plaza

Yep, I never thought id prefer firm life to big corp. but here we are.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36768307)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:15 AM
Author: Titillating hall useless brakes

God no.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36762148)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:28 AM
Author: Tan federal potus milk

Funny how the only people who unequivocally say “no” are you and a fempoaster. Why do you think that is?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36762204)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:53 AM
Author: startled windowlicker

Plenty of people saying unequivocal no on this thread.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36762326)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:52 AM
Author: Violet vigorous set main people

OP asked about in house, not being a compliance monkey

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36762322)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 10:49 AM
Author: Titillating hall useless brakes

Nope, not a compliance monkey.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36762719)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:47 AM
Author: Blue indian lodge psychic

I would like a firm I could call my own

Call me 3AM on the telephone

Wake up every morning in a sweaty fright

Sleeping at the office almost every night

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36762297)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 10:51 AM
Author: Cerise Double Fault Forum

Ljl at fish. What year exactly did you make this jump, buddy?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36762727)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 11:00 AM
Author: Bonkers Lascivious Spot

He didn’t jump so much as fall, no?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36762790)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 11:35 AM
Author: Cerise Double Fault Forum

He should go opine in the "Anyone here shitcanned and glad to find a paying gig 6 years later" thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763035)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 11:54 AM
Author: Violet vigorous set main people



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763154)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 12:46 PM
Author: Tan federal potus milk



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763419)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 4:20 PM
Author: aqua boiling water abode

absolutely devastating

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36765207)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: Bonkers Lascivious Spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36765238)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 4:24 PM
Author: Bonkers Lascivious Spot



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36765240)



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Date: September 8th, 2018 2:35 PM
Author: Mint Galvanic Dilemma Wagecucks



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36769930)



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Date: September 8th, 2018 2:52 PM
Author: brass motley house feces

Loled

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36770027)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 1:44 PM
Author: Stubborn Heady Locale Roommate

Not really, but my team is super chill and, while I may not make much compared to other inhouse bros, I have a pretty flexible schedule and nice perks. The only thing I regret is the money, but wife makes a good amt at a decent job so it balances itself out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763907)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: Cerise Double Fault Forum

Were you considering Europe once? What happened

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36764454)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 2:50 PM
Author: Stubborn Heady Locale Roommate

Yea. Rejected it because it put our family in a worst off position, but they needed help so they arranged a short term assignment.They're paying the apartment, multiple return flights to the US in business class, CoL increase, and a per diem of about $50 a day.

I don't get their reasoning. Me being here will probably come out to like $60-70k at least for a 4 month stint. The flight to my destination alone was like $3k. They want to extend it, but wife is pregnant and she doesn't want to have the kid here.

Plus, office is full of like nubile 20 year olds in slutty makeup. So marriage may not last if I stay. JFC. Euro chicks are another level.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36764564)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 4:09 PM
Author: Cerise Double Fault Forum

180.

I'm considering Paris right now but I'd prefer not to as cool as living in Paris would be

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36765119)



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Date: September 10th, 2018 10:36 AM
Author: Stubborn Heady Locale Roommate

Oh, shit. Have we emailed? Best of luck, brother.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36780454)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 1:44 PM
Author: aqua boiling water abode

lol at TMF

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36763917)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 2:40 PM
Author: curious orchestra pit

what are all of these $400k+ chill in house jobs everyone seems to have!?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36764455)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 8:59 PM
Author: aqua boiling water abode

basically threw away my legal "career" by leaving biglaw too early and not ID'ing the GC as a dickless TMF-like non-male but fuck it, i want to get into b2b sales or something even marginally more stimulating than marking up and negotiating docs.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36766684)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:01 PM
Author: Bonkers Lascivious Spot

When did you leave?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36766698)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:02 PM
Author: aqua boiling water abode

4th year

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36766702)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:06 PM
Author: Bonkers Lascivious Spot

You a tranny? 4th year is not too early at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36766727)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: aqua boiling water abode

yes. unless you're coming in at a VP/AGC number 2 type level, it's not worth it.

if you go in as some faggot specialist or some commercial generalist, you're absolutely fucked growth-wise. it will be the same shit over and over again for the rest of your days, at least at that company.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36766748)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Tan federal potus milk

JFC at staying in tranny biglaw for more than 4 years. thats too high a price, there will be nothing left of you

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36766762)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: aqua boiling water abode

if i did it all over again but for some reason still took loans for law school so I had to work biglaw, id do lit just to leave a viable solo option. only way to make real money and create your own destiny in law.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36766773)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: Tan federal potus milk

why did you do tranny originaally. were you INTERESTED IN BUSINESS?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36766785)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:17 PM
Author: aqua boiling water abode

im fluent in X language and thought id be going back abroad (where only corp is relevant) but ended up meeting wife in 3L and abandoning course but by then fate was already set via 2L oci/summer.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36766794)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:08 PM
Author: Tan federal potus milk

Biglaw sucks though bro. DESCRIBE the cuck GC

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36766742)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:10 PM
Author: aqua boiling water abode

im going to get too angry thinking about "him". maybe later. it's friday and I want to get high

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36766758)



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Date: September 8th, 2018 6:28 PM
Author: Titillating hall useless brakes

"the GC as a dickless TMF-like non-male"

WTF, why is everyone ITT being a dick to me?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36771259)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:24 PM
Author: ultramarine bbw codepig

Your mileage may vary. Really depends on how bad biglaw was for you and what your practice group was. Upside of inhouse is clearly the hours, and time is something you never get back. No one's biglaw existence is meaningful. nor is anyone's inhouse job. You're truly delusional if you think otherwise. So in a lot of ways, lower hours wins, as you have more time to devote to outside pursuits or just enjoying life.

Downside of inhouse IMO is you're sheltered from a lot of BS corporate stuff when you're at a firm. Sure, you know of it but it's not an everyday thing. Inhouse, you often have to "build relationships" and hang out with people who make the dummies at most biglaw firms look like rocket scientists (e.g., HR people, people doing literally nothing for $120K, etc.). You're also constantly bothered by pointless meetings and work on boards and committees, which is unpleasant if you're introverted. if you can make it to the SVP/MD level or equivalent, you're getting biglaw $$ (prob high six figs to $1M at a lot of banks), and that beats the fuck out of biglaw given that it's less work.



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36766834)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 9:36 PM
Author: Tan federal potus milk

climbing the ladder at a banks legal dept sounds like hell, maybe worse than trying to get brikkfuss

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36766882)



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Date: September 7th, 2018 10:01 PM
Author: ultramarine bbw codepig

Eh, you leave at 6 everyday id imagine

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36766993)



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Date: September 8th, 2018 4:41 AM
Author: Exhilarant Effete Headpube

This, basically. There are shitty things about both, but if you have social skills, in-house shit is easier to swallow. More work on teams, less time as idiot savant working alone.

I love in-house. Comp hit is real, but declining marginal utility of each extra dollar is far outweighed by marginal gain for each hour of free time. You can have a great, chill life with hobbies and such.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36768354)



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Date: September 8th, 2018 2:53 PM
Author: brass motley house feces

Why not do 400k 9-5 in house??

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36770034)



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Date: September 8th, 2018 6:36 PM
Author: drab macaca station

Timely. Thinking about the same thing. Actually really like 60% of biglaw experience, but other 40% is fucking horrible (e.g., entering time at 11 pm after working 14 hrs). Been told partnership is real possibility, but all partners have been divorced multiple times and look like they are getting ready to keel over from work.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36771290)



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Date: September 9th, 2018 11:50 AM
Author: Beta Property Nowag

Exactly. For the first time (after multiple laterals), I am finally excelling and have a shot at breakfast. But the partners are as stressed as anyone, just fatter

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36774675)



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Date: September 9th, 2018 1:10 PM
Author: Violet vigorous set main people

Just don't enter your time until the end of the month

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#36775069)



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Date: February 19th, 2019 7:29 PM
Author: wonderful becky shitlib

from a financial independence/leaving-the-law standpoint, there is no biglaw vs. inhouse debate. inhouse is just a necessary step toward ur end goal of not dealing with legal bullshit for the rest of ur life

imagine that financial freedom is like trying to land on the moon

biglaw represents those huge boosters that u need to escape earth's gravity. good income but those boosters burn out far before u get to the moon.

inhouse is like the shitty, slow, engine that finishes ur journey to the moon so u can finally finish ur legal "career." it's slow as fuck bc u earn less than biglaw but that's okay bc (1) u're almost done saving and (2) if u aren't finished saving $$$, u can generally hang around inhouse for a while without getting the boot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#37810247)



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Date: February 21st, 2019 10:24 PM
Author: Beta Property Nowag

"boosters burn out" = assuming no breakfast?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#37823572)



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Date: February 27th, 2019 9:40 PM
Author: wonderful becky shitlib

if u're able to get breakfast, that's like getting an extra booster stage -- but then again, if u're up for breakfast, u also might not be the type of person who wants to land on the moon and reach the promised land of financial freedom in the first place

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#37854299)



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Date: February 21st, 2019 10:46 PM
Author: naked offensive public bath personal credit line

lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#37823700)



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Date: February 21st, 2019 10:51 PM
Author: Hideous meetinghouse candlestick maker



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4070772&forum_id=2#37823733)