Best books of the 21st century
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Date: September 17th, 2018 11:33 AM Author: balding flickering psychic filthpig
I have only read a few of these books, but it doesn't appear I am missing out. Apparently the best our culture produces now includes a zombie novel and Gone Girl.
http://www.vulture.com/2018/09/a-premature-attempt-at-the-21st-century-literary-canon.html
Now look at this list of the best novels of the 20th century. Compare Gone Girl to Ulysses, The Sound and the Fury, Pale Fire, and Darkness at Noon. It is hard not to conclude that that literary novels are dead and/or our culture is in a precipitous decline.
http://www.modernlibrary.com/top-100/100-best-novels/
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Date: September 17th, 2018 11:36 AM Author: Odious university
Never Let Me Go and The Road are both very, very good
lol at the rest, especially this gem:
The Sluts, by Dennis Cooper (January 13, 2005)
Once upon a time, in the prelude to the plague years, gay male desire invented its most mesmeric and unbearable object: the twink. Blond, white, underweight, and user-friendly, he was a plastic icon of inverted, Aryan masculinity. As AIDS destroyed a population, as the internet quickened and anarchized our pornographies, the twink took off. Dennis Cooper hit this crepuscular intersection of web and death with effortless genius. A series of online rent-boy reviews describe the discovery, torture, and maybe murder of a barely-legal, no-limits hustler named Brad. Call it the twink cri de coeur — all surface, and so, perversely impenetrable. It is a dangerous fantasia, slipping so easily into the mouths and minds of homophobes. But go ahead, let them taste it. They want it as much as anyone. —David Velasco
OH what a canonical work of art!
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:46 PM Author: Beady-eyed doctorate cuckoldry
off the top of my head,
Netherland
Galveston
Elementary Particles
those are up there but there's a shit ton i forget
and mentioned in that list, The Sense Of An Ending is really fantastic and stuck with me for a long time
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Date: September 17th, 2018 7:24 PM Author: balding flickering psychic filthpig
Some more recommendations:
Dark Star by Alan Furst
Before the Fall by Noah Hawley
Los Alamos by Joseph Kanon
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Date: September 17th, 2018 4:31 PM Author: zombie-like sticky senate internal respiration
2666 and The Corrections are worthy competitors - but there are a few issues with comparing these lists.
1) We're drawing from the first 18 years - less than 20% the timeframe
2) It's hard to tell what stands the test of time when time hasn't really past yet.
3) I wonder if how easy people's lives are now have a negative impact on literature. Lots of great 20th century authors were WW1 / WW2 survivors / veterans, lives through great depression, etc. , knew more people who died younger or in some of these wars or to sickness or disease, etc. I wonder what kind of impact that has.
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Date: September 17th, 2018 4:59 PM Author: balding flickering psychic filthpig
The biggest reason that novels are dying is that we have more compelling entertainment options (long-form TV series, videogames, Internet). Most men would rather watch an HBO show or play video games than read. Over 80% of fiction is read by women and the publishing industry is dominated by women and gay men. This has shaped what is published to the extent that almost no fiction aimed at heterosexual males is available and promoted.
To your point, I would say the majority of literary fiction comes from graduates of MFA programs that have led fairly uninteresting lives. It would be 180 if we got more novels from people with actually interesting experiences (astronaut, Navy SEAL, CIA/FBI agent, pro athlete, ER doctor). But that times has past.
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Date: September 18th, 2018 5:47 PM Author: Avocado Area
"Not since Angela Carter has a writer subverted classic fairy-tale tropes the way Helen Oyeyemi does, to transformative effect. Mr. Fox is perhaps the first brilliant work of romantic metafiction, a novel that tells the story of a few characters over and over again in pitch-perfect iterations that reveal volumes about love and loneliness and violence. Undeniably clever — but not so clever as to obscure the sentiment embedded in Oyeyemi’s shrewd structure — Mr. Fox has the brains and the heart to win over both those who enjoy unraveling how fiction works and those who just seek pure enjoyment. —Maris Kreizman"
Anyone who writes like this is unqualified to judge writing. What utter nonsense.
Also, The Last Samurai isn't a book of the 21st century. It was written and published in the 20th.
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