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Nebraska fan here - still feel great about Frost and the program
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Date: September 17th, 2018 1:12 PM Author: Ocher Garrison Not flame. He inherited a mess and these early struggles are to be expected. Even Saban struggled early on - there is only so much that can be done until the roster is completely turned over and players have experience in the new systems.
Frost is installing all new offensive and defensive systems and has had QBs who were making their first college starts in both games - one a true freshman who hadn’t played in 20 months and the other a walk-on. Nebraska has some extremely talented freshman - Martinez and Washington are both going to be stars - and you can see glimpses of how things will ultimately develop. Nebraska outrushed Colorado 330-45 and had 7 sacks and 14 total TFL. Troy only had 250 total yards of offense and didn’t convert on third down until the fourth quarter. When you look at how Nebraska is developing combined with a Big Ten West in disarray, you have to think the future is bright.
https://abcnews.go.com/Sports/story?id=3896933&page=1
Alabama fans aren't the only ones treating the Louisiana-Monroe loss as a monumental event. Coach Nick Saban described the humbling defeat in almost apocalyptic terms Monday, mentioning the Sept. 11 terrorist attacks and Pearl Harbor in talking about how his team must rebound like America did from a "catastrophic event."
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Date: September 17th, 2018 1:21 PM Author: Exciting hyperactive crotch Who is lined up for qb next year cause that twink spic won't cut it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36825636) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 1:45 PM Author: Ocher Garrison He is like 220. They will have Christian McCaffrey's brother and a UCF transfer next year. Things will be fine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36825779) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 1:47 PM Author: Exciting hyperactive crotch Frost couldn't coach up a halfway decent passer at oregon but if he can find tough option qbs they will be good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36825794) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:00 PM Author: Ocher Garrison Very astute post
https://www.si.com/college-football/2018/04/17/scott-frost-nebraska-huskers-turnaround-ucf-oregon
“I’m proud of the fact that since I’ve become quarterbacks coach and OC, Marcus was a Heisman winner and led the country in passer efficiency,” Frost says. “The next year Vernon [Adams] led the country in passer efficiency, and this past year, McKenzie was second to Baker Mayfield. Our scheme puts QBs in positions to do things well, and [Nebraska quarterbacks coach Mario Verduzco, who was on Frost’s UCF staff] is as good as there is at training them.” |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:04 PM Author: Exciting hyperactive crotch Lol nice googling. Mariota was a Helfrich recruit and Frost was the WR coach at oregon until 2013
Vernon Adams was a graduate transfer and a finished product when he arrived |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:11 PM Author: Ocher Garrison Explain this one
“McKenzie was second to Baker Mayfield” |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:32 PM Author: Exciting hyperactive crotch I have no idea about UCF but frost recruited and coached a long line of failed qbs at oregon who all had to leave and almost destroyed the program (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826176) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:35 PM Author: Ocher Garrison Like 50% of 4-star QBs transfer now, it is the nature of the position. Every elite program has tons of failed QBs.
I am surprised every 4-5 star thinks they can be the man at USC or Clemson instead of going to someplace like Northwestern or Purdue.
https://www.foxsports.com/college-football/story/signing-day-recruits-quarterback-transfer-clemson-hunter-johnson-alabama-tua-tagovailoa-michigan-dylan-mccaffrey-013017 |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:38 PM Author: Exciting hyperactive crotch Funny enough Oregon could have had Tua, he was begging to come there and Frost had other ideas
Tua Tagovailoa , the Alabama freshman who was inserted in the second half of Monday's national title game and led the Crimson Tide to their fifth national title in nine years, grew up idolizing Marcus Mariota and attended his high school, Saint Louis School, in Honolulu. During his recruitment, Tagovailoa was said to dream of playing for Oregon, but the interest wasn't reciprocated. By the time UO needed a quarterback in its 2017 class, Tagovailoa had been snapped up by Nick Saban. |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:39 PM Author: Ocher Garrison Yeah, I read about that. Huge fuck up. He seems to have gone all in on Martinez. Better hope he pans out or NU could be in trouble. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826239) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:44 PM Author: Exciting hyperactive crotch Tbh i like frost and would love nebraska to be a power again 90s cfb was the best i just like winding up cornhuskers (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826276) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: Ocher Garrison Yeah, it is easy to do. Frost has made Nebraska fun to watch again. The last 17 years have been brutal. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826295) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 3:45 PM Author: Exciting hyperactive crotch The CU Nebraska game was 180 like the old days (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826736) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 4:01 PM Author: Ocher Garrison Agreed, almost all the games were close in the 90's and then in the 00's they played some great games. Remember this one like it was yesterday.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5aXkPwWXLNY |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 4:02 PM Author: Sickened university stock car 62-36 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826831) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:40 PM Author: slate massive pisswyrm retard shtick?
Scott Frost had left UO by then. |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:42 PM Author: Exciting hyperactive crotch Wrong idiot
https://www.oregonlive.com/recruiting/index.ssf/2018/01/scott_frost_ironically_blasts.html
Days after watching Alabama Crimson Tide freshman Tua Tagovailoa lead his team to a national championship, new Nebraska football coach Scott Frost balked at the idea of praising Nick Saban for the mid-game change at quarterback.
"It was a decision I don't know I would have been courageous enough to make. That's the answer you want to hear. The other answer is that he was pretty obviously better and they had 12 games to figure that out and didn't," Frost told ESPN's Sam Khan Jr. "Coach Saban is above criticism with everything he's accomplished, so I don't mean it that way, but I recruited Tua out of high school and knew what he could do and it doesn't surprise me that he did what he did. Jalen's a great player, too. That was a very bold and courageous move and I'm surprised it didn't happen earlier [in the season]."
Perhaps Frost simply hoped nobody would notice the irony of his comments.
Oregon recruiting misses over years includes Tua Tagovailoa
Oregon recruiting misses over years includes Tua Tagovailoa
While the quarterback coach/offensive coordinator in 2014, Frost was part of a Mark Helfrich staff that elected not to offer Tagovailoa a scholarship as a sophomore, despite his heavy interest in the Ducks due to his relationship with, and admiration for, Oregon legend Marcus Mariota.
So focused was Tagovailoa on Oregon that even an in-person visit from then-USC head coach Steve Sarkisian in December 2014 wasn't enough to sway him, according to his father, Galuega.
"To have Sarkisian come out here and actually offer him was a huge deal to me, because he's the head coach at USC," his father said. "To have that, it blew my mind. I told him, 'The head coach of USC came out.' He said, 'Yeah, I know Dad, but I want to go to Oregon. I've always wanted to go to Oregon. Marcus was out there. And I keep telling you, Dad, I know these schools want to offer, but once Oregon offers me, I'm done.' "
The delay led to a communication breakdown that left Tagovailoa confused.
"Sometimes I forget that Oregon has interest in me. Coach Cal (Lee) tells me to call coaches. When I do some coaches don't answer," he said in spring 2015. "I have no clue who I'm calling. Coach Cal gives me their number... but the last time I was in contact with an Oregon guy was (offensive coordinator) Scott Frost when he came down."
It wasn't until approximately 18 months later - after Oregon secured and then lost the commitment of four-star quarterback Ryan Kelley and Tagovailoa committed to Alabama - that Oregon deemed Tagovailoa worthy of a scholarship.
By then, Tagovailoa had soured on the Ducks.
The rest, as was quite apparent Monday, is college football history.
12-game season vs. 18 months? Saban has Frost beat by a full calendar year in the "recognizing Tagovailoa's talent" game.
-- Andrew Nemec anemec@oregonian.com @AndrewNemec |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:46 PM Author: slate massive pisswyrm Oh wow. He didn't offer some guy as a sophomore. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826283) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:50 PM Author: Exciting hyperactive crotch One look at his tape you could tell he had it all, maybe the quickest release i have ever seen. But "Ryan Kelley" was a better get (currently 4th string at arizona stat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826312) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 3:21 PM Author: Ocher Garrison There is no credible defense for Frost here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826541) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 1:56 PM Author: cracking startled hell fanboi Yeah, N will probably be very good in a few years and may even upset someone this year. Riley was really a disaster; Nebraska's very own combo of Rich Rod/Hoke (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36825853) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:02 PM Author: Ocher Garrison CR. Just a disaster. I think they have a shot at beating Michigan this weekend. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36825898) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:49 PM Author: cracking startled hell fanboi I suppose it could happen but I think Mich's D line will overwhelm whatever young quarterback they decide to start (full disclosure, I'm a UM homer). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826307) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 3:58 PM Author: Ocher Garrison Yeah, Nebraska will definitely struggle with Michigan's D. But I haven't been impressed by their offense and I believe they have a couple key players out. Nebraska is going to put a ton of pressure on Patterson and I think Michigan will struggle.
I am actually going to be at the game. Any recommendations on where to eat/drink in Ann Arbor? |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 4:54 PM Author: cracking startled hell fanboi UM's #1 RB, Higdon, was out on Saturday but he should be good to go next week. Otherwise the entire offense is healthy. Yeah, UM's pass protection has been pretty shaky so that's how to attack their offense. Also, the defense is really strong but they have trouble with mobile QBs so that has me a little worried.
Grizzly Peak, which is a brew pub with really good food, near Main Street was always one of my favorites. Ashley's on State Street was great for their beer selection. I saw that Jolly Pumpkin has a place in Ann Arbor now, which was put in after I graduated but I can say their beer is amazing. Red Hawk, on State Street is a nondescript pub but I loved their food. If you're out later and want a late night shit show, head to Rick's and if you're into old video games or pinball there's a place next door called Pinball Pete's that is a pretty amazing vintage arcade.
Enjoy the game; I wish I was going. |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 5:11 PM Author: Ocher Garrison I think Michigan wins, but doesn't cover the spread. They are the better team, but Nebraska's strengths are their weaknesses and it should be a good matchup if Martinez is healthy. If he doesn't play, Michigan wins big. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36827338) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:04 PM Author: slate massive pisswyrm Riley did a real number on this program (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36825921) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:11 PM Author: Ocher Garrison (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36825999) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:39 PM Author: concupiscible primrose lodge now that scott frost is here, losing is fun! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826235) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:41 PM Author: Ocher Garrison At least the games are fun to watch unlike the routine skull fuckings ubdrr Riley (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826247) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:43 PM Author: concupiscible primrose lodge link to riley's .000 win %? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826268) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:45 PM Author: Ocher Garrison Never said he didn't win a game. Just beatings like this are tough to endure.
http://www.espn.com/college-football/game?gameId=400935415 |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 2:46 PM Author: concupiscible primrose lodge oh has frosty coached against those teams? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826285) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 3:57 PM Author: Heady clown Just be patient, Big 10 season hasn't started yet... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826791) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 3:59 PM Author: Ocher Garrison Have you seen how the rest of the Big Ten has played so far this year? OSU could take them behind the woodshed, but I don't see anyone else doing so. Unless Martinez can't stay healthy, then it could really turn into a nightmare. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826812) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 4:00 PM Author: Sickened university stock car 6 straight home losses is unthinkable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826819) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 4:21 PM Author: Unhinged brethren You sound like a Texas fan after they hired Charlie Strong (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36826979) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 4:30 PM Author: Sickened university stock car "What, me worry?" (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36827066) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 11:23 PM Author: disrespectful national selfie I believe in Frost and Chinander. You can already see glimpses even though our luck has been terrible so far. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36829984) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 11:27 PM Author: Crimson travel guidebook me too, but if AM doesn't come back, i think year 1 goes from 'shitty record but fun to watch b/c there's progress' to 'atrocious record with little very hints of what the future will actually look like'--which would leave me feeling kinda cheated as viewer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36830012) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 11:37 PM Author: Ocher Garrison Completely agree (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36830067) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 11:48 PM Author: Crimson travel guidebook it was never abt the win loss record this year, so much as a it was abt giving a preview of the future. but if we have to watch pro style qbs try to run this system all year, fans wont even get that, which burns through a lot of goodwill. although long term i still think things are fine (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36830131) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 11:55 PM Author: Ocher Garrison My expectations this year were that the games would be fun to watch, maybe Nebraska pulls off an upset or two and there would be clear progress. I think things will be fine long term, but it will be incredibly frustrating if this QB situation torpedoes the season this early. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36830174) |
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Date: September 18th, 2018 12:04 AM Author: Crimson travel guidebook (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36830223) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 11:38 PM Author: Elite Parlor Dingle Berry are you also in crypto for the tech (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36830072) |
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Date: September 17th, 2018 11:56 PM Author: Ocher Garrison I am optimist (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36830176) |
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Date: September 18th, 2018 12:10 AM Author: Mildly autistic theater stage (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4079437&forum_id=2#36830272) |