HuffPo: Everything You Know About Obesity Is Wrong (link)
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Date: September 19th, 2018 11:44 AM Author: Self-absorbed aromatic associate
"According to the Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, nearly 80 percent of adults and about one-third of children now meet the clinical definition of overweight or obese. More Americans live with “extreme obesity“ than with breast cancer, Parkinson’s, Alzheimer’s and HIV put together."
Hell world
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36840058) |
Date: September 19th, 2018 11:46 AM Author: brilliant plaza
this is actually true - a lot of fat people just have garbage genes and are destined to be fat no matter what
but the "solution" isn't to "accept" them or some retarded lib bullshit. the solution is to turn them into soylent and feed them to farm animals, because fat people are disgusting and useless
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36840073) |
Date: September 19th, 2018 11:47 AM Author: lavender swashbuckling hall old irish cottage
"his is Corissa Enneking at her lightest: She wakes up, showers and smokes a cigarette to keep her appetite down. She drives to her job at a furniture store, she stands in four-inch heels all day, she eats a cup of yogurt alone in her car on her lunch break. After work, lightheaded, her feet throbbing, she counts out three Ritz crackers, eats them at her kitchen counter and writes down the calories in her food journal.
Or not. Some days she comes home and goes straight to bed, exhausted and dizzy from hunger, shivering in the Kansas heat. She rouses herself around dinnertime and drinks some orange juice or eats half a granola bar. Occasionally she’ll just sleep through the night, waking up the next day to start all over again."
So she sticks to a rigorous diet of crackers and juice?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36840078) |
Date: September 19th, 2018 11:51 AM Author: Grizzly High-end Lay
"Chances of a woman classified as obese achieving a “normal” weight:
.008%
SOURCE: AMERICAN JOURNAL OF PUBLIC HEALTH, 2015"
JFC. so basically we need to treat obesity like an incurable disease vector and take radical steps to prevent it in at-risk patients.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36840112)
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Date: September 19th, 2018 11:53 AM Author: Vibrant hot son of senegal preventive strike
“The bigger way my weight affected my life was that I waited to do things because I thought fat people couldn’t do them.” She got her master’s degree at 38, her Ph.D. at 55. “I avoided so many activities where I thought my weight would discredit me.”
Wtf. Did she think there would be a physical fitness component to her getting her degrees?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36840127) |
Date: September 19th, 2018 11:57 AM Author: Gold dashing tank
both sides are wrong.
liberals are wrong in pretending there is no public health crisis in people's ever increasing obesity
conservatives are wrong to identify the source of the problem with a lack of will power in individual fat people
everyone being fat is a problem, but will power is imaginary. we need to figure out what the fuck is going on, and both sides' attitudes are not conducive to doing that
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36840151) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 12:25 PM Author: Gold dashing tank
whether or not you inject heroin or whatever is determined by chemical and biological processes in your brain.
if you have never experienced the urge to inject heroin, then you will likely ascribe no particular significance to the fact that on a given occasion these processes determined that you continue not to inject heroin. you probably won't think of it as much of a choice
on the other hand, if you have or are feeling the urge, you will ascribe a very different significance to the same outcome. you'll feel that you made the choice to abstain. in a sense, you did.
but your abstinance was not caused by your choice. your sensation of choosing arose from the context in which your abstinence occurred
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36840475) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 12:34 PM Author: Fragrant cyan ratface
This sounds like college freshmen stuff and it takes the end result and reasons backwards
Didn’t shoot heroin because you never shot heroin and don’t have the urge to? That’s becuas of the lack of chemical processes that would demand you shoot heroin.
Ok, but:
Didn’t shoot heroin despite being an addict and having the incredible urge to? That’s because the chemical processes actually didn’t exist for you to shoot heroin, despite the incredible urge you had to shoot heroin.
So again what about everyone who quits? You’re saying that they simply never experienced the chemical processes that require them to shoot heroin after the last time they shot heroin?
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36840575) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 4:38 PM Author: Citrine step-uncle's house reading party
"we need to figure out what the fuck is going on"
- Life is shit. Food makes it better for some.
- Food is cheap, plentiful, and fattening.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36842733) |
Date: September 19th, 2018 11:59 AM Author: Grizzly High-end Lay
"The first is that diets do not work. Not just paleo or Atkins or Weight Watchers or Goop, but all diets."
That's interesting. When I tried a paleo-variant diet AND STRICTLY FOLLOWED IT FOR OVER A YEAR it had profound effects on my weight and body composition. I could not gain weight despite eating 3000-3400 calories per day, which I METICULOUSLY AND ACCURATELY TRACKED. I then gained weight after adding starches and sugars back into my diet, despite no overall gain in caloric intake.
Dieting also appears to work just fine for the competitive bodybuilders at my gym, who seem to share the common ability to FOLLOW THE DIET. I wonder if there's a theme here.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36840170) |
Date: September 19th, 2018 12:01 PM Author: diverse psychic
i know a great big fat lady
she thinks she eats healthy because she eats some vegetables with most meals. however ive watched ehr eat twice as much during a sitting as i do, down 2 glasses of sugar water with it, then snack nonstop during hte day when she's hungry
that's what all fatties are like - they claim they dont eat much during "meals", and for some reason think snacking and drinking calories dont count
bottom line: fatties are disgusting people
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36840192) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 12:15 PM Author: Grizzly High-end Lay
sure we can. by shaming the fuck out of fat people and creating a culture where willpower and correct choices are necessary for social success.
as the article points out but dances around, we shamed smoking out of public habit.
that said, here's the one true sentence in the article: "Plus, rather obviously, smoking is a behavior; being fat is not."
so maybe we shift focus from shaming people for being fat to shaming them for eating sugar and processed garbage and not exercising. or shaming starbucks for selling retarded leggings-clad cows milkshakes labeled as "coffee."
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36840364) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 12:38 PM Author: Underhanded stag film hunting ground
if smoking is a behavior, being fat is a behavior
we don't need to shame fat people, we need to make them pay the penalties for their behavior, a big one being higher health insurance
yolo. let fats be fats if they choose to be. while i am not above shaming them, i don't think shaming them is a nice thing to do. it is far better than celebrating their fatness, though, like shitlibs
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36840610)
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Date: September 19th, 2018 12:17 PM Author: Grizzly High-end Lay
HMMM ODD CASE SHOWING EXACTLY HOW DIETS DON'T WORK:
“Your conscious mind is busy the whole day with how many calories is in everything, what you can eat and who’s watching,” she says. After a few intrusive comments over the years—should you be eating that?—she has learned to be careful, to perform the role of the impeccable fat person. She nibbles on cherry tomatoes, drinks tap water, stays on her feet, ignores the dessert end of the buffet.
Then, as the gathering winds down, Jessica and the other parents divvy up the leftovers. She wraps up burgers or pasta salad or birthday cake, drives her children home and waits for the moment when they are finally in bed. Then, when she’s alone, she eats all the leftovers by herself, in the dark.
“It’s always hidden,” she says. “I buy a package of ice cream, then eat it all. Then I have to go to the store to buy it again. For a week my family thinks there’s a thing of ice cream in the fridge—but it’s actually five different ones.”
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36840390)
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Date: September 19th, 2018 12:28 PM Author: ruddy address
"I have never written a story where so many of my sources cried during interviews"
Oh well that fucking settles it - if your subjects CRIED let's throw out the science
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36840503) |
Date: September 19th, 2018 1:04 PM Author: hyperventilating kitty cat
Libs solution to too many obese people: change the definition of obese.
One. Weird. Trick.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36840820) |
Date: September 19th, 2018 1:45 PM Author: exhilarant cordovan affirmative action sneaky criminal
I don’t think we should pretend that the way our bodies process the addictive shit carbs we are fed has nothing to do with gaining or losing weight.
Unless we think the glycemic index bro science is all flame.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36841112) |
Date: September 19th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: unholy hell
This one's a joy to work for I'm sure.
“There is so much agency taken from marginalized groups to mute their voices and mask their existence. Being depicted as a female CEO—one who is also black and fat—means so much to me. It is a representation of the reclamation of power in the boardroom, classroom and living room of my body. I own all of this.”— JOY COX
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36841720) |
Date: September 19th, 2018 11:35 PM Author: talking mustard church building
How does 'the marvel cinematic universe' explain the vastly higher amount of shaming / lower incidence of obesity among Asians? Would you at least agree that it's okay to shame children for this, BEFORE they become obese?
I agree that once become have become obese, more radical measures are necessary.
(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081272&forum_id=2#36846023) |
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