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Any bort libs out there want to justify Democratic tactics re: Kavanaugh?
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Date: September 19th, 2018 1:58 PM Author: violent field LTM? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841198) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:42 PM Author: Elite peach rehab Trump said pussy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841668) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:43 PM Author: stirring arrogant weed whacker meetinghouse /thread (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841672) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:46 PM Author: vivacious bonkers toilet seat bawdyhouse i mean we should have just started with that (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841708) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:58 PM Author: rebellious confused stage kitty cat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36844086) |
Date: September 19th, 2018 1:59 PM Author: Navy pit scourge upon the earth They will say anything goes following McConnell’s treatment of Garland. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841207) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 1:59 PM Author: sinister canary abode Ding ding ding (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841209) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:02 PM Author: Vigorous roommate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841232) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:07 PM Author: slap-happy olive sandwich school cafeteria This is cr. But the Republicans we're pretty straightforward about it being purely an election-related delay. If Dems said the same should apply to midterms, that'd be one thing. But the whole last minute sex assault allegation is pretty outlandish and not in the same league. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841286) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:09 PM Author: Navy pit scourge upon the earth completely agree, but just like in actual war, each side will escalate and ignore rules/customs if they believe their survival is at stake. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841304) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:12 PM Author: slap-happy olive sandwich school cafeteria That's true. It just sucks that one side has TDS and feels their survival is at stake when someone walks past wearing a MAGA hat. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841344) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:13 PM Author: Splenetic rusted gas station idea he suggested what the republicans did was objectionable, but it's nothing like this. not even close. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841360) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 3:08 PM Author: Talented Bespoke Factory Reset Button what the repubs did was not objectionable. it was perfectly within their right and a brillianst strategic play. if dems wanted garland nominated they should have held onto the senate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841916) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:22 PM Author: Splenetic rusted gas station idea he suggested it's not brilliant strategy because it opens the door for bullshit tactics that not only could, but will, come back to bite you. in fact, that's exactly what happened to the dems since they first implemented this tactic. (it's also not "brilliant" because it was copied, a different point) garland was nominated with plenty of time to get appointed. a fair consideration of his worthiness should have occurred and he should have gotten appointed if he was deemed worthy.
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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:19 AM Author: Offensive Laughsome Affirmative Action Deciding not to vote if you have that right isn't comparable to manufacturing false allegations about sexual assault. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36846319) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 5:41 AM Author: Doobsian sable house As if the Democrats would not have done exactly the same thing if it were a Republican in his final year of office with a Dem senate.
Biden and others promised that they would boycott any new SCOTUS justices in the final year of H.W. Bush's term. |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:07 PM Author: Splenetic rusted gas station idea he suggested i'm not arguing otherwise. i'm saying the practice is bullshit. i guess it's naïve to believe we could expect our politicians to act reasonably and leaving it up to voters to judge each side's actions is what we are left with.
despite loving what happened, i don't think it's how things should be. it's also clear that these types of tactics aren't going anywhere soon
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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:20 PM Author: Impressive Corn Cake LOL LOL LOL Go killself |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:17 PM Author: appetizing area The problem is each side DOES NOT treat this as an actual war. Only the Dems do.
They continually go even lower, and on the offense, while cuckservatives are perpetually on the defense. And this is why cucks have lost for decades.
Indeed, even one of the few offensive moves I can remember (GOP handling of Garland) was simply copying a new low/strategy first set by the Democrats (Biden rule). |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:18 PM Author: Splenetic rusted gas station idea he suggested (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841406) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:19 PM Author: vivacious bonkers toilet seat bawdyhouse I think they are learning. I think you will see that here - the won't cave this time. Maybe i am naiive. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841425) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:28 PM Author: Splenetic rusted gas station idea he suggested they cave on this, they might as well call the party the papa johns (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841492) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 4:35 PM Author: appetizing area Sorry, I think you are being naive. They certainly didn’t learn after Bork.
What’s more discouraging is that Trump has showed cucks exactly how to win, yet they don’t appear to have learned a thing. If not through Trump, when?
My point is that while the cucks MAY not cave here, they haven’t grasped the bigger picture, and I don’t see how they ever will. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 3:09 PM Author: Talented Bespoke Factory Reset Button (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841920) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:48 PM Author: sinister canary abode We viewed it as the reverse. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36844012) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:52 PM Author: appetizing area Sorry, it’s an objective fact you started it (the Biden rule), not subject to subjective opinion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36844035) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:45 AM Author: Autistic Hall Toaster Let’s just suspend habeous corpus, have a coup and install a junta. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36846441) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:17 PM Author: vivacious bonkers toilet seat bawdyhouse "If Dems said the same should apply to midterms, that'd be one thing. "
Well they did say that, the republicans laughed at them, and their base went nuts. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:14 PM Author: Deep Charismatic Boltzmann Plaza I don't know why anyone should pretend otherwise. If you have 51 votes, you're the captain now. If you don't, whatever hook or crook you can use. It won't work long run though (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841376) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:03 PM Author: arousing ladyboy Garland. Anything is fair after that and the GOP can't cry about it now. Garland was a moderate and Kavanaugh is a right-wing nutjob who will get rid of abortion. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841247) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:13 PM Author: Deep Charismatic Boltzmann Plaza lol at "cry about it" the Dems are literally delaying this nomination by a week, whereas the Reps actually blocked Garland. I don't the Reps are the ones who should be crying (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841368) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:14 PM Author: burgundy stimulating senate coldplay fan So the Biden rule only exists when repubs nominate someone? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841372) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:37 PM Author: Impressive Corn Cake You seem to have an odd idea of what the Biden Rule is. Do you mind sharing it with the board? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36848744) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:14 PM Author: Splenetic rusted gas station idea he suggested anyfing if faiw afta dat dumbass shitlib |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:14 PM Author: Ruby death wish location Spoken like a true lunatic (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841380) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 3:09 PM Author: Talented Bespoke Factory Reset Button youre so low iq and misinformed its painful (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841922) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:21 AM Author: Offensive Laughsome Affirmative Action Choosing to exercise a discretionary Constitutional prerogative is the same as falsely accusing a judge of rape? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36846327) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:28 PM Author: chrome chest-beating reading party It's not false (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36848685) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:38 PM Author: Impressive Corn Cake I wonder if you could pass a lie detector test on the question of whether you honestly believe refusing to even put a nominee up for a vote is part of a "Constitutional prerogative." (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36848751) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 1:24 PM Author: Offensive Laughsome Affirmative Action Yeah, I could pass that test. Link to the Senate must vote on something whenever libs insist clause? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36849074) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:08 PM Author: coiffed rigor police squad if he is lying under oath today to serve his own advancement, he shouldn't be a judge.
that's the best argument I've got. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:15 PM Author: Elite peach rehab Democrats are hurting the credibility of all rape survivors (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841382) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:17 PM Author: Splenetic rusted gas station idea he suggested why should he tell the truth, again? this is monica lewinsky stuff, except it's not. it's irrelevant, that wasn't
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:19 PM Author: Ruby death wish location Because he's a judge and under oath? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841418) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: vivacious bonkers toilet seat bawdyhouse agreed if they can show he lied than he's finished
but given that she has no evidence, that seems hard to do now |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: Ruby death wish location Yeah, all the "he lied" stuff is only if you take every possible ambiguity in the light most favorable to Dems and don't ask too many follow-up questions. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841462) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:32 PM Author: vivacious bonkers toilet seat bawdyhouse the question of whether he lied is not one of opinion. "I believe her!" is not enough. You actually need to show that he knew it happened and said later it didn't. Like Bill Clinton, who did this numerous times yet is still a liberal hero.
If it is just he said, she said - especially if she doesn't show up - then you can't say he lied |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:35 PM Author: Ruby death wish location There was some other allegation of lying, though. Like what he knew about Kozinski, I think.
Anyway, only Kav knows whether he lied or not. Other people will believe what they want to believe. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:41 PM Author: Zombie-like Crotch Theater (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841647) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:25 PM Author: Splenetic rusted gas station idea he suggested okay, whatever let's go this route the question is irrelevant and doesn't go to anything anything relevant about kavanaugh's worthiness to be a justice did you play doctor with the neighbor girl when you were six? |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: Ruby death wish location I disagree that it's totally irrelevant. If you take what she said as 100% true, exactly as she said it (i.e., he tried to forcibly take her clothes off while covering up her mouth), I think that's relevant.
But I agree that, even if what she says is *mostly* true, it's not necessarily dispositive on his ability to be a good justice. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:31 PM Author: Splenetic rusted gas station idea he suggested would you tell the truth under oath? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841523) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:33 PM Author: Ruby death wish location I'm not sure I understand the question. Am I supposed to be Kavanaugh and a rapist in this scenario? If I thought I could not both (a) tell the truth and (b) get confirmed, I would probably withdraw from consideration. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841549) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:36 PM Author: Splenetic rusted gas station idea he suggested if you were kavanaugh, you would risk your seat on scotus by acknowledging that you were inappropriately frisky while drunk 35 years ago? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841592) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:40 PM Author: Ruby death wish location I like to think so (or withdraw). Obviously it's hard to definitively say what I would do in a hypothetical scenario. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841636) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:31 PM Author: vivacious bonkers toilet seat bawdyhouse I get why he did it
if it is a lie (like they find an email where he says "oh man betsy wasn't into it!"), then he's done here.
If he literally forgot, which is also possible, and somehow she can prove it happened, it probably doesn't matter because the fact that she can prove it means he's probably done anyway. That's not really fair but the "it doesn't really matter" probably won't win given how tight the margin in the senate is
so why not just say it didn't happen? |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:35 PM Author: Splenetic rusted gas station idea he suggested get why he did what? yeah, email didn't exist when this occurred she can't prove it in any reasonable way. she apparently told nobody about it for 30 years. if she could prove it, i'd still think it's bullshit, but that's a different discussion. she can't. there is no reason to believe otherwise.
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:15 PM Author: slimy hissy fit I don't know what the deal was with the timing of the release. It does seem like Feinstein was being kind of shady there, but its possible she was just following the wishes of the accuser. Otherwise, what do you expect them to do? It's a pretty serious allegation even if it was a long time ago. Are Democrats just supposed to ignore it and wave the guy through? Come tf on. I'm sure if the tables were turned McConnell would have already shut down the government some how. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:19 PM Author: vivacious bonkers toilet seat bawdyhouse you are assuming away the problem in your first paragraph
the primary issue is that feinstein just sat on it until the opportune time to try to delay
also all the dems tweeting "I believe Dr Ford!" while knowing nothing is unjustifable |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: Elite peach rehab Feinstein didnt even believe the allegations. This is damaging to ACTUAL victims of rape (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841428) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:22 PM Author: slimy hissy fit I'm not going to defend Feinstein. She sucks anyway. Once the allegations were released its incumbent upon the Senate to figure out whether there is any truth there before they give this dude a lifetime appointment. People can say who they believe or not at this point - it doesn't particularly matter. IMO she has no reason to lie if this is something she has been talking about for years. But its not my call. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:25 PM Author: Elite peach rehab Delaying a GOP scotus nom isnt a reason to lie? What about being lauded as a liberal hero by every media outlet? You can’t be this dense. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841466) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:26 PM Author: slimy hissy fit Yes, I'm sure her life will be sunshine and roses from here on out. It's awfully prescient of her to have thought up this strategy like 5 years ago and tell nobody except her therapist. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:27 PM Author: Elite peach rehab Yeah it probably will be. NEET internet trolls be damned, she’s set for life
As for the therapist “note”, she didn't even mention his name. Not that it would be evidence of anything anyway. Not even Feinstein believes this. Just chalk it up as another L |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:27 PM Author: Ruby death wish location " IMO she has no reason to lie if this is something she has been talking about for years."
I am constantly amazed as smart people saying something along these lines. Have you not seen how people react to the *possibility* of Roe v. Wade being overturned? They treat it like a fucking holocaust. Can you know imagine someone thinking they have something to lose if Kavanaugh is seated as a justice? That's a reason to lie. It doesn't mean she *is* lying, but it's not a hard motive to imagine. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:29 PM Author: slimy hissy fit Sure, if this was something she just came up with. The idea that she would plot this out like 5 years in advance is bizarre and weird. It's the kind of conspiracy theory the clowns on Qanon might come up with. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841499) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: Elite peach rehab Well i guess we’ll get to ask these questions when she testifies under oath oh wait she won’t do that i wonder why (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841513) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:32 PM Author: slimy hissy fit She has asked for a full investigation. Why is it that Kavanaugh's buddy who was there refuses to testify under oath? Who is hiding here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841529) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:32 PM Author: Elite peach rehab LOL why would there need to be an FBI investigation for her to testify? She’s the one making the allegations remember (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841536) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:36 PM Author: slimy hissy fit It's not exactly an impartial body she would be testifying in front of. He said vs she said isn't worth much when the senate committee won't subpoena any of the witnesses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841581) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:37 PM Author: Elite peach rehab Now you’re just deliberately avoiding direct questions (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841597) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:42 PM Author: slimy hissy fit I must have missed your explanation for why the Senate refuses to call any other witnesses. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841663) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:45 PM Author: Elite peach rehab Listen, no one is going to believe this bitch if she’s not willing to testify under oath. She’s impeaching not only her own credibility, but the credibility of all women. You can whine about McConnell all you want, but remember who has the burden of proof here.
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Oh and i think they should subpoena her and Judge and jail whoever is lying for dalse statements |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:48 PM Author: slimy hissy fit Burden of proof for what? This isn't a criminal case. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841730) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:50 PM Author: Elite peach rehab You need to have some evidence if you’re making an allegation or anyone who isn’t a credulous moron is going to assume you are either crazy or a liar (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841751) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:25 AM Author: mauve resort To be fair,
Can you ELI5 why the FBI can/should "investigate" this?
I'll let you assume for the sake of simplicity that FBI jurisdiction is appropriate here, though it's almost certainly not because there's no allegation that any federal crime was committed, and that jurisdictional issue in and of itself is fatal to her "request" as a threshold matter.
In return, when formulating your answer, please do me the courtesy of addressing *with specificity* the precise factual circumstances surrounding this incident that you believe the FBI is *better* positioned to "investigate" than Congress -- bearing in mind that (1) Ford knows as well as anyone on this Earth who else was present at the party in question and she either can or cannot remember their names/identities, and (2) if she can recall names/identities, Congress has the power to subpoena those individuals and extract sworn testimony from them under penalty or perjury. And no, the mere fact that she's "not comfortable" answering "tough" questions from "mean" Republican Senators doesn't cut it -- particularly in light of the fact that she has now voluntarily made her identity public, and the further fact that notwithstanding that decision the Judiciary Committee has specifically offered to take her testimony in a closed-door session. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:31 PM Author: Ruby death wish location " The idea that she would plot this out like 5 years in advance is bizarre and weird. "
Oh, like when it looked like Romney might get elected and appoint a Supreme Court justice? I mean, her husband explicitly said she was worried about Kavanaugh being appointed to the Supreme Court. Is that a "bizarre and weird" allegation? |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:43 PM Author: Judgmental Disturbing Psychic Native I wonder how much a go fund me will raise for her. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843983) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:27 AM Author: Offensive Laughsome Affirmative Action If it's all true, why would that stop him from being appointed? Are you Anderson Cooper? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36846356) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:19 PM Author: Elite peach rehab “It's a pretty serious allegation even if it was a long time ago”
I expect them not to elevate the dubious claims of literal mental patients with 0 evidence |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:20 PM Author: Splenetic rusted gas station idea he suggested the accuser's wishes on the timing of the release of an anonymous letter that wasn't supposed to be released? huh? what they should have done is looked at this for what it was, considered it shit, and asked kavanaugh about it for a few questions during the 300 hours of questioning he sat through i don't mind them fishing for a few questions based on this pure bullshit accusation. but what they did ain't that. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: slimy hissy fit You clearly have already made up your mind. My point is that it is irresponsible to do that either way. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841460) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:27 PM Author: Splenetic rusted gas station idea he suggested not sure what you mean either way? but yes, the dems should not even consider this a factor based on what we know about the accusation in its (lack of) seriousness, its lack of details, its oldness, etc |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:43 PM Author: vivacious bonkers toilet seat bawdyhouse both sides have made up their mind due to politics, of course
but, if you were taking this seriously, for me, the issue is there is nothing more to investigate. She admits there were no other witness other than the Judge guy, who says it didn't happen (not that he's credible, but that's his story). She doesn't have details about time, location, place. It probably isn't a crime. There is nothing to discover, there is no additional evidence. FBI won't touch it because its not a national security concern, local authorities won't touch it unless she files a formal complain, and there is nothing they can do with it anyway - it wasn't rape and i doubt whatever it was can even be prosecuted under statute of limitations.
Everyone knows this - which is why feinstein sat on it for six weeks - because if it came out six weeks ago, they would have had six weeks to say that there is nothing out there and the dems would have nothing to complain about now.
So what do we have? he said, she said, and a democratic senator who is playing dirty
Personally, I don't think even if it happened exactly as she described it that it is relevant given that he was 17, it doesn't seem to have been a crime, and he has a 35 year record that is spotless. I understand that is likely the minority (or at least the "silent majority") view.
And perhaps she isn't lying, but we all know that witness testimony and memory can be very unreliable. People believe things happened that didn't happened, or after reliving something over and over again come to remember it being much worse, or involving different people, than it actually did. That is why there is a system that requires evidence, etc.
If you think if he did that at age 17 that it is disqualifying, then you either need to give him the benefit of the doubt when he denies it and say it is not reasonable to allow unsubstantiated allegations to sink someone, or you take a view that this is a lifetime appointment and we just can't take any risk. I'm of the former opinion.
What's the point of delaying? Feinstein, Schumer, Kamala and Spartacus all decided no a year before this guy was even nominated. The whole suggestion that we need an investigation is just a silly political game. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:46 PM Author: slimy hissy fit This is much more reasonable take than the other clowns in this thread. IMO Kavanaugh is a party hack who lied in his very first statement after being nominated, and is lying about this as well. But I understand why other people may not agree. I don't see what the harm is in taking a little more time to figure out whether there is any truth to these allegations. McConnell sat on Garland for 9 months. A few more weeks won't kill anybody. The Senate used to care about its role in advise and consent - now its just a political football both ways. Lesson, as always, is that the Senate sucks ass. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:49 PM Author: carmine dashing heaven You didn't address any of the reasons why an FBI investigation would be foolhardy. Do you concede that calling for one is histrionic? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841739) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:51 PM Author: slimy hissy fit No. She doesn't want to go before a partisan committee helmed by a bunch of old men to testify without some sort of fuller investigation. Shouldn't she get some credit for wanting an investigation? Why are the Republicans the ones trying to hide here? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841756) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:52 PM Author: carmine dashing heaven That was already addressed by the other guy you idiot. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841765) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:54 PM Author: slimy hissy fit Who, the guy calling the accuser a bitch? That guy? ok (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841786) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:54 PM Author: carmine dashing heaven Good one, Rudolph (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841790) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:57 PM Author: Elite peach rehab lmao (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841808) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:28 PM Author: carmine dashing heaven "It's a pretty serious allegation even if it was a long time ago."
What is the crime alleged? |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:39 PM Author: Concupiscible pocket flask stead attempted sexual assault/kidnapping (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841621) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:46 PM Author: carmine dashing heaven I don't think he brought her there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841704) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:56 PM Author: Racy buck-toothed market faggotry She never said no (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841804) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:32 AM Author: mauve resort To be fair,
If by "kidnapping" you're trying to say "false imprisonment," given that she hasn't alleged that Kavanaugh physically transported her anywhere (and even the false imprisonment thing would obviously be a huuuuuge stretch)
Jesus Christ this used to be a law bort |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 8:06 AM Author: Concupiscible pocket flask stead Kidnaping by confinement/restraint is the law in most states.
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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:59 AM Author: Navy pit scourge upon the earth lol, thank you for defending this shit. Its good for people to see what Libs really believe. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36846484) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:39 PM Author: Splenetic rusted gas station idea he suggested the lowest level of sexual assault false imprisonment disorderly conduct based on what we know, none of those should be provable beyond a reasonable doubt, but those could be the crimes
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:47 PM Author: carmine dashing heaven I don't think he closed the door. The door was alleged to be unlocked. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841710) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:48 PM Author: Elite peach rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841729) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 3:08 PM Author: Exhilarant Grizzly Orchestra Pit "Otherwise, what do you expect them to do? It's a pretty serious allegation even if it was a long time ago. Are Democrats just supposed to ignore it and wave the guy through? Come tf on. I'm sure if the tables were turned McConnell would have already shut down the government some how."
Great! Maybe going forward, we should just automatically accuse every Dem politician and nominee of watching child porn. I mean, that's really serious, right? Don't you agree that if these politicians are all watching child porn, that we should put in a FULL investigation? Why should we provide any evidence or testimony without a FULL investigation first? What's the rush?
I mean, you don't HATE children.....do you? |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:25 AM Author: Offensive Laughsome Affirmative Action Explain the "it's serious" part of your argument? No men are allowed to be judges? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36846345) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:30 PM Author: Self-centered brilliant space degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841511) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:32 PM Author: Elite peach rehab McStuffins is making an effort. “She has a note from her therapist” seems to be the go to talking point (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841531) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:33 PM Author: Self-centered brilliant space degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841540) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:32 PM Author: violent field For all those saying Garland
What about Bork? Thomas?
You guys started this all |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:34 PM Author: Elite peach rehab This thread is a massacre (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841564) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:37 PM Author: arousing ladyboy (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841604) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:40 PM Author: Elite peach rehab Oh shit loans originated just got here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841637) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:00 PM Author: Navy pit scourge upon the earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843699) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:20 AM Author: drab twinkling uncleanness headpube (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36846321) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:51 PM Author: infuriating stag film electric furnace (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841758) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 3:07 PM Author: twinkling wonderful immigrant cumskin six republicans joined the dems to vote bork down. And the dem senate gave Bork a vote. Thomas got his vote too and the accusations against him were credible and relevant. McConnell took it up a notch when he denied Garland a vote. I think we can all recognize that the hearings are bs theatre, but denying a vote on a nominee is another level of disgraceful partisanship. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841909) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 3:29 PM Author: burgundy stimulating senate coldplay fan Not sure if you are familiar with the Anita hill testimony but massive inconsistencies in her story and corroborating evidence were exposed to the extent that most did not believe her. They were anything but credible.
But more to the point I just have no idea how you say what happened to Bork and Thomas were fair game and Garland was not. Garland was unprecedented but so were Bork/Thomas, which also was disgraceful and contributed to the rampant partisanship we are now in. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:03 PM Author: sinister canary abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843736) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:02 PM Author: sinister canary abode What about them? Both went through the process and were voted up or down on the decision of the individual senators.
Bork is easily appointed if Republicans didnt cross lines against him.
I am glad to see Dems fighting dirty post Garland. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:40 PM Author: insanely creepy big base jew what did Dems do wrong? if the guy was trying to rape people, that should be considered in the vote to confirm him (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841645) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:43 PM Author: Self-centered brilliant space degenerate (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841674) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:44 PM Author: Ruby death wish location Sit on allegation as long as possible in an attempt to delay proceedings until mid-term elections. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841683) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 6:56 PM Author: insanely creepy big base jew yeah Dems really violated that rule of propriety requiring rape allegation be made only when convenient for the accused rapist. you got me there (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843683) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 6:58 PM Author: Elite peach rehab It’s about the perception. Makes it look like she’s a lying opportunistic whore, and that’s unfortunate. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843692) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:16 PM Author: Ruby death wish location I'm not even talking about that. I'm talking about Feinstein sitting on this letter until it's politically convenient. If it's serious, then treat it like it's fucking serious. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843827) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:48 PM Author: Judgmental Disturbing Psychic Native bingo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36844009) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:16 PM Author: Ruby death wish location Lol what are you talking about? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843821) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:18 PM Author: insanely creepy big base jew i mean they should've asked if this was a good time to accuse kavanaugh of rape. no? oh ok no problems we'll come back later (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843841) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:22 PM Author: Ruby death wish location So you think that Feinstein sitting on rape allegation until it is maximally politically expedient is honorable behavior? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843868) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:23 PM Author: sinister canary abode No. And when Trump is out of office, Republicans can let the word honor pass their lips. Until then..... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843877) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:25 PM Author: Ruby death wish location Until then, what? You don't care if elected officials are pieces of shit? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843880) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:27 PM Author: sinister canary abode No, I don't care if they use the tools at their disposal to oppose Trump's agenda. Recall that these are the same folks who pulled the Garland stunt, almost a dozen Benghazi and email investigations (all of which quietly rolled up after the election with nothing to show for them), and are headed by a birther that brought his opponent's spouse's accusers to a debate.
Sorry but you can't complain at all about dirty tactics anymore. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:29 PM Author: Ruby death wish location Yeah, I have no respect for people like you, who view this as a fight between teams you root for, and not governance of our country.
The number of shitty things Team X does is no justification for Team Y doing shitty things.
There are a lot of people that aren't on Team Y or Team X (including rape victims) who get hurt by the bullshit that the teams pull. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:37 PM Author: sinister canary abode Valid point. In current circumstances I unfortunately think the gloves are off. Democrats could continue to play by a rule book the GOP has abandoned, but it becomes harder to effect the policy goals your constituents elected you to advance if you are hamstringed against an opponent that is not.
In an ideal world, Republicans respected Senate traditions of decorum and gave Garland his opportunity to receive the consent of the Senate. They did not do so for purely political reasons. They have behaved similarly awfully with respect to gerrymandering and the use of investigative committees to score political points against Clinton in advance of the 2016 election.
I'd love for honor to be returned to the Senate. Once we've restored the balance a little. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:52 PM Author: Judgmental Disturbing Psychic Native Once we've restored the balance a little.
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:55 PM Author: carmine dashing heaven When did he try to rape someone? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841799) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 3:09 PM Author: Talented Bespoke Factory Reset Button 30 years ago obv (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841928) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:42 PM Author: turquoise dragon halford Fucktard Obeezy, can we get your hot take? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841659) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:42 PM Author: Elite peach rehab (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36841665) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 4:38 PM Author: adventurous massive hunting ground state libs=shit. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36842728) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:50 PM Author: appetizing area (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36844020) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 6:59 PM Author: vengeful legal warrant Fuck kavanaugh (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843695) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:00 PM Author: Elite peach rehab Strongest argument yet (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843704) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:00 PM Author: Silver House-broken Sneaky Criminal Trump is a dumbass, but can’t defend hysterical lib tactics other than that they seem to be fighting fire with fire by screaming rape all of the time. If that’s what it takes to roadblock Trump’s agenda, so be it (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843708) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:02 PM Author: sinister canary abode (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843724) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:23 PM Author: Elite peach rehab https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Boy_Who_Cried_Wolf (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843875) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:55 PM Author: Silver House-broken Sneaky Criminal Spell it out for me (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36844059) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 8:13 PM Author: Elite peach rehab If you run around screaming RAPE when there is no rape, no one will believe you if yoh actually are raped. Americans learn this in Kindergarten (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36844195) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 8:17 PM Author: Silver House-broken Sneaky Criminal I understand that point, but don’t mind libs using it while they still can (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36844250) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:04 PM Author: sinister canary abode I justify it by FUCK TRUMP (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843747) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:13 PM Author: Fighting very tactful coffee pot sound barrier What, specifically, requires "justification"? If you try to rape some lady, that's relevant to your soft quals for SCOTUS (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36843805) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 7:57 PM Author: slippery bateful circlehead Things this insane woman does not remember:
1) whether she screams or gasped or whimpered. 2) when there a hand covered her mouth or a mouth.
These details alone make it entirely possible that the incident otherwise happened, is not a crime and that any guy who has fucked more than 3 women would never remember an incident like this. And would have no idea if drunk whether or not she felt comfortable or would regret it.
Which is why it’s not a matter of her or Kavanaugh lying.
Also lol at the clear bullshit about fearing for her life. That is made up after the fact and so is trying to call this an attempted rape.
“The only reason he didnt accomplish the rape was he was so drunk”
Actually the only reason he tried making out with your unhinged ass was because he was drunk.
Libs cannot believe the words coming out of their mouths. At least not men. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 8:00 PM Author: slippery bateful circlehead Fortunately for he sake of men, I spoke to two colleagues who are libs and voted for HER and they agree (with no women around) that this whole bullshit is insane and is terrible threat to all men. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36844096) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:39 AM Author: mauve resort To be fair,
At a future Article III confirmation hearing...
"Mr. [REDACTED], have you ever expressed to any colleagues your AFFIRMATIVE SUPPORT for perpetrators of sexual assault and their heinous acts against women? I will instruct you to think very carefully before you answer that, sir." |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 8:09 PM Author: Submissive Nibblets Wagecucks Justify DEM tactics? I can think of one semi-justified explanation:
1. DiFi got the letter and thought it was clear bullshit, so she sat on it. 2. Someone else found out about it, likely through CBF's original transmittal of the letter to her Rep. 3. DiFi would have buried it completely, but was forced to come out with the letter because the party in (2) would have spilled the beans and named DiFi as obstructionist. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 8:13 PM Author: Elite peach rehab literally the only coherent response itt (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36844187) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 8:58 PM Author: maniacal exciting athletic conference You retards realize a SCOTUS nominee will never again be voted on if the POTUS and senate majority are different right? If Clarence Thomas drops dead in February 2019 and dems have control, no one is getting confirmed until 2020. They’re just trying to extend that to Kennedy too (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36844515) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:27 AM Author: smoky duck-like locale associate Ends justify means where Roe is concerned. Anything above a negligible probability of an overturn must be confronted as an existential crisis. The party has never in all history been better, funner, more favorable for women. An overturn now could drop heavy rain on the gyno-parade. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36846355) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 12:42 AM Author: mauve resort To be fair,
That must be why, when polled, women in 2018 self-report higher happiness/satisfaction levels than at any prior time in recorded human history. I mean, that *must* be correct--right? |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 1:01 AM Author: Navy pit scourge upon the earth (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36846491) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 2:16 AM Author: smoky duck-like locale associate As a whole, women today report lower happiness. But of these, an agitated minority are behind the activism. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36846761) |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 7:33 AM Author: Glassy Queen Of The Night "libs" "justify" |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 8:12 AM Author: titillating lime patrolman lodge Not a lib at all, but this is easy. SCOTUS is now a fully political super legislature (dems fault, obviously). It no longer performs a judicial function so old standards for nominees and Senate confirmation have nothing to do with anything anymore.
Libs did this with Bork and then Thomas (nb, Biden is actually PROUD of how libs changed everything), GOP followed the new system with Garland, etc etc. |
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Date: September 20th, 2018 8:16 AM Author: naked onyx depressive hell Nope. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081392&forum_id=2#36847162) |