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Hey Charles, how do you reconcile the fact that 95-98% of dieters fail? (DTP)
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:10 PM Author: White Dopamine sure you've lost weight and kept it off for a few years. but can you keep it off for a decade? i honestly don't know what timeline these studies are using to arrive at these figures, but there are consistent data that nearly ALL diets fail:
"Since 1959, research has shown that 95 to 98 percent of attempts to lose weight fail and that two-thirds of dieters gain back more than they lost."
we get that you see yourself as a servant of god and that it's your moral duty to not be fat. but how do you envision yourself achieving this over the long-run knowing the failure rate is greater than 95%? |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:17 PM Author: aromatic mint site fat ankles that's not what the data says. the studies say that subjects who SAY they follow a diet regain weight. the studies don't say that subjects who ACTUALLY follow a diet regain weight.
the people who run the studies can't measure the latter so they report data on the former and shrug. then stupid journalists who can't tell the difference conclude that diets have no effect on weight. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:19 PM Author: White Dopamine at a certain point, does it matter?
let's factor in willpower to continue a diet as part of the effectiveness of that diet.
if 95% of people fail to follow a certain diet for longer than 3 years, can you really triumphantly say "the diet is effective if you follow it!" |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:00 PM Author: Bull headed brass ceo We all die eventually, three years in shape is better than none at all. Not sure what you're driving at here. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36990860) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:03 PM Author: White Dopamine is it though? is the sort of righteous indignation demonstrated by charles really consistent with him being "slim" for 3 years followed by a complete return to his roly-poly self for the next 50? doesn't seem so (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36990880) |
Date: September 19th, 2018 2:11 PM Author: offensive rigor he's trying to get skinny to land a wife, not to stay skinny forever
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:13 PM Author: White Dopamine that's not his intended goal at all. but realistically, that's probably what's going to happen to him given the data: he'll be a hungry angry skinnyfat for 2-4 years, get married and settled down, and then turn into a 250lb blimp (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36841363) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:13 PM Author: offensive rigor all his genes care about is procreation
yours too. at least he's trying. |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:15 PM Author: White Dopamine it would seem most people's "genes" care about being enormous blubber monsters more than procreation (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36841383) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:30 PM Author: rambunctious mexican nah he's already decently ripped and not a skinnyfat (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36991077) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 5:35 PM Author: Salmon Exciting Boltzmann This is flame. My crusade to not be a fat predates any interest in dating by close to a year. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36843182) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:13 PM Author: Green coffee pot 95% of the world is weak and stupid (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36841354) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 2:13 PM Author: White Dopamine charles, can you get itt and confirm this is your position? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36841370) |
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Date: September 19th, 2018 9:00 PM Author: sickened telephone (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36844531) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 2:15 PM Author: bat shit crazy main people CR. The obesity crisis has strong eugenic effects on educated people and for poors we just need abortion, voluntary sterilization and morning after pill on demand for free, and no more payments and/or loss of parental rights for poors who have more than one kid. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36991416) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 12:54 PM Author: Spectacular center immigrant How retarded do you have to be to believe that those who seriously adhere to a diet fail at this rate? Darnell is correct, but it's embarrassing that this had to be explained.
Moreover, why would you not encourage someone to better themselves instead of eagerly hoping they fail? I can't even fathom how pathetic one would have to be to derive schadefreude from this. |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 12:56 PM Author: fishy community account kitty cat The OP doesn't really suggesting that diets fail even when you stick to them; it suggests that most people who attempt to lose weight fail. The logical assumption is that they can't/don't stick to the diet. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36990839) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 12:57 PM Author: White Dopamine it's very sad that normie-retard Hegemon doesn't get this. he will forever live in his bubble fantasy world, totally ignorant of what goes on in reality. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36990847) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:00 PM Author: beady-eyed doobsian coldplay fan knife no, YOU don't fucking get it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36990854) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:01 PM Author: White Dopamine i think it's been consistently demonstrated that i am always correct and normies are always brain-dead and wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36990861) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:10 PM Author: Spectacular center immigrant http://autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=1907298&mc=304&forum_id=2
This is who you are. Don't pretend to be an exeunt/lawman8-esque oracle - the only thing that's been consistently demonstrated is that you are bitter and unhappy, have no way to change those things, and therefore resort to hoping other fail so that you can reach parity with them. |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:11 PM Author: beady-eyed doobsian coldplay fan knife the fact that he went back the second time just to be sure is the funniest part about it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36990929) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:14 PM Author: Spectacular center immigrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36990948) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:28 PM Author: White Dopamine how MAF are you at widely studied STATISTICS that 95% of diets fail and yes, you, and the landwhales you love, will remain obese until your last dying breaths exhale from your elephantine white american bodies? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36991058) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:37 PM Author: Spectacular center immigrant LJL. I'm 175/10% bodyfat, and a major fat hater. You airballed with this one, but did an excellent job of proving my point that you have nothing to live for but the hatred of those who improve themselves. Fats deserve the cholesterol laden death that awaits them, but those who choose to get fit are making the correct choice. It's only those with no happiness or future that hope they fail. The next time you decide to go fuck a guy because you're lonely and have a void inside of you where fulfillment should be, remember this and just kill yourself instead. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36991138) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:38 PM Author: beady-eyed doobsian coldplay fan knife (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36991151) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:39 PM Author: White Dopamine sure thing fatty
i can tell by your lengthy screeds how fat and miserable you are
and for the record, i never wished for charles to fail. i simply presented a contrarian point of view based on facts/statistics and wanted to see what he would say.
you: fat, mad, and retarded |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:48 PM Author: Spectacular center immigrant this is perhaps the least applicable attack you could have tried; the only things I consistently poast about are lifting and running. The only miserable one here is the one who fucks dudes on Craiglist because he can't find satisfaction in life. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36991213) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:54 PM Author: White Dopamine "DTP is miserable" -says DTP 20x per day
Hegemon pipes in: "btw guys, did you know that DTP is miserable? he also has sex w/ men"
lol retard, please give us some more hot takes |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:59 PM Author: Spectacular center immigrant Admitting this isn't a defense. The next step is realizing that you should just kill yourself instead of bitching at those who are better than you. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36991297) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 2:04 PM Author: White Dopamine there's a special class of really deranged "nice" people who wear a veneer of civility at all times, but it's a forced effort. and when they come into contact with my thinking and my writing, something deep inside them gets triggered severely because of the mental energy they expend each day to appear "normal." it drives them berserk and they lash out angrily hoping for anything to quiet the disturbance.
that's you. and i will enjoy triggering you with my posts, and hope you continue to get MAF deeply every time you read them. |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 2:10 PM Author: Spectacular center immigrant This is objectively poor analysis.
1) I'm far from "nice," don't attempt to maintain any veneer of civility, and regularly alienate people because of it. You again misread me terribly. 2) I'm irate because you're one of the least respectable persons on this bort, and yet you seem intent on trying to discourage others from bettering themselves. That's singularly pathetic, and engenders nothing but mountains of disgust. 3) You've yet to effectively rebut a single thing I've said. I don't think you could be more low-IQ if you tried. |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 2:12 PM Author: White Dopamine ok fatty (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36991395) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 2:44 PM Author: Floppy Forum *diamond cuts u*
DTP is doing God's work here, faggot |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 3:29 PM Author: Salmon Exciting Boltzmann (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36992016) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:56 PM Author: tan hominid "Don't pretend to be an exeunt/lawman8-esque oracle"
ok but you know lawman8 is retarded right |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 12:56 PM Author: Exhilarant Love Of Her Life Being skinny is lame anyway. Much cooler to be a nude BEEFBOI jock. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36990837) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 12:58 PM Author: irradiated prole national I've thought the same thing when Charles gets all self-righteous about his MY WEIGHT LOSS MY MORAL DUTY
I admire his work and am happy for him, but I think the urge he has to step up and advise others on the matter will make much more sense when he keeps the weight off for 3, 5, 10 years
it's very new fitness mindset to brag like that |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:01 PM Author: White Dopamine cr, it's indeed short-sighted and foolish (which is a sin?) and definitely boastful and arrogant (which surely is a sin) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36990867) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 3:44 PM Author: Salmon Exciting Boltzmann I primarily post about it when people make threads about it, and often with a mind toward encouraging others. I've also been upfront about the long-term odds and the necessity of SELF-MASTERY to overcome them.
You sound rather bitter tbh. |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:08 PM Author: Sable Fragrant Abode Mad-dog Skullcap It's been almost five years since I lost a bunch of weight, and I've kept it off. My acute urges to eat junk food subsided fairly quickly. But they are always in the background, always tempting me, especially when I have to walk past the junk food aisle at the grocery store. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36990902) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 1:41 PM Author: White Dopamine you're fueled by an uncanny meth-like addiction to dating apps and self-vanity, though, so it's not really comparable to the average person. once this period in your life goes away, as it surely will, how committed do you think you'll be? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36991169) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 2:02 PM Author: Sable Fragrant Abode Mad-dog Skullcap I've had the same thoughts myself. Maybe find a wife who lets me fool around on the side? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36991314) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 2:09 PM Author: White Dopamine physically you're going to be over the hump by anyone's definition past 40. you're destined for blimpdom. once fat, always fat. that's the reasonable interpretation of the statistics out there. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36991374) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 2:17 PM Author: Sable Fragrant Abode Mad-dog Skullcap We'll see. I've been in the top 1% in lots of other things in life, maybe I can be in the top 1% of fitness. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36991432) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 3:09 PM Author: Chrome faggot firefighter do a whole30 if you want to stop craving junk food (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36991866) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 3:11 PM Author: beady-eyed doobsian coldplay fan knife whole 30 is literally for women (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36991889) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 2:21 PM Author: bat shit crazy main people Anyone who hasn’t done any serious exercise or just played a sport in high school knows that this stat is dumb. It’s not that hard to change body comp and the rest is just how well you form better habits. A better way to understand this study is: women are birdbrains and count a diet as ‘failed’ when they give up minutes after starting it like Kramer bowing out of the contest. Do a study of people who were actually as serious about losing weight as Charles and you will get a different result. Also screen out legit crazies who are abusing their bodies with food like super binging bulemics and those crazy rednecks that eat 8k calories of fast food in a single “meal.” (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36991469) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 2:34 PM Author: White Dopamine i get that. but 95-98% is a staggering figure. even if we count out the non-serious dieters, and the figure drops to like 40-50% of serious dieters fail, is that really so much better? my overall point is that there is something fishy going on here.
actually if you do some quick math, you can divide dieters between serious and non-serious, and even if you assume that non-serious all fail, it would require a HUGE percentage of all dieters to belong in the non-serious group to make much of a difference. |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 3:55 PM Author: Salmon Exciting Boltzmann A 50% failure rate is way better. Come on, man. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36992212) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 3:29 PM Author: Spectacular center immigrant (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36992007) |
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Date: October 9th, 2018 3:45 PM Author: Mind-boggling space hunting ground (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4081401&forum_id=2#36992151) |