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Charles: Jesus dies in 30 -> Rome peaks 117 -> Dark ages until 1800s

how do you not see everything became horrible because of Cat...
vibrant stage
  09/20/18
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vibrant stage
  09/20/18
religion is the devil.
titillating indian lodge therapy
  09/20/18
Can't tell if sarcasm? It was only the "dark ages&qu...
Mint hunting ground macaca
  09/20/18
...
olive gay wizard
  09/20/18
op is mfe, bro
Razzle-dazzle tantric forum dog poop
  09/20/18
(gore vi:Dal)
Laughsome business firm stain
  09/20/18
“Dark Ages” is a myth
Mischievous rehab
  09/20/18
Libs invented the dark ages to discredit white people. If yo...
180 brilliant death wish
  09/20/18
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Odious out-of-control knife
  12/02/18
Settle down, Gibbon
smoky plaza trump supporter
  12/02/18
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Odious out-of-control knife
  12/02/18
...
low-t ivory skinny woman step-uncle's house
  12/03/18
so is it possible we could have had the internet 200 years e...
yellow office
  12/02/18
Pretty sure Rome had that stuff.
curious space juggernaut
  12/02/18
ho lee shit
yellow office
  12/02/18
What happened in 1800
Odious out-of-control knife
  12/02/18
discovery of fossil fuels. living standards actually peaked ...
vibrant stage
  12/02/18
flame on the athens thing
Odious out-of-control knife
  12/03/18
32% urbanization rate!
vibrant stage
  12/03/18
The chart on HDI for the Greek East is total fucking flame. ...
disturbing newt jewess
  12/03/18
social science shitheaddery like this is also behind the ide...
Odious out-of-control knife
  12/03/18
(guy totally impartial about who was in charge in 900 AD)
vibrant stage
  12/03/18
Romans were in charge in 900 AD, and the Eastern Empire was ...
smoky plaza trump supporter
  12/03/18
German scholars began questioning the historicity of Jesus
beady-eyed rambunctious rigpig windowlicker
  12/02/18
Dark Ages are real but blaming them on Christianity is low I...
disturbing newt jewess
  12/03/18
whys it gotta be the DARK ages hmmmmmmmm?
Odious out-of-control knife
  12/03/18
Because of the lack of written record. There were meticulou...
Irradiated Stock Car
  12/03/18
But literature is a good proxy for decadence. Someone that h...
vibrant stage
  12/03/18
In fact Christianity gave them a unified ideology & a so...
smoky plaza trump supporter
  12/03/18
...so why did it take 2 millenia to recover instead of a cou...
vibrant stage
  12/03/18
? Absolute flame Romans didn't even have fucking stirrups...
smoky plaza trump supporter
  12/03/18
Lack of slaves mean subsisTTTence living.
vibrant stage
  12/03/18
It didn't; the idea that life was worse in 1700 compared to ...
disturbing newt jewess
  12/03/18
LOL @ claiming a higher population living at subsistence is ...
vibrant stage
  12/03/18
Not to mention one could just as easily blame them on Islam....
Umber keepsake machete principal's office
  12/03/18
Shit was falling apart well before Islam so while that didn&...
disturbing newt jewess
  12/03/18
It was a primary factor in 1. demonetization of European eco...
Umber keepsake machete principal's office
  12/03/18
Like I said, it didn't help, but the old Roman Empire was fa...
disturbing newt jewess
  12/03/18
In 380, under Emperor Theodosius I, Catholicism became the s...
vibrant stage
  12/03/18
It was already TTT by the time Xtianity came forward - read ...
smoky plaza trump supporter
  12/03/18
Aurelian master race
adventurous zombie-like parlor
  12/03/18
He was 180, but was ulitmately only a fireman b/c of his ear...
smoky plaza trump supporter
  12/03/18
can't argue with thescience https://i.stack.imgur.com/XE9...
flushed university
  12/03/18
Reddit is lols
Swashbuckling Ruddy Chapel Philosopher-king
  12/03/18
...
smoky plaza trump supporter
  12/03/18
But I thought muslims were making yuge scientific advances d...
Hairraiser chartreuse box office potus
  12/03/18
lmfao
Razzle Police Squad
  12/03/18
...
Galvanic Parlour Pervert
  12/03/18
You need to read more books :D, I am diving into this time p...
Irradiated Stock Car
  12/03/18
LOL there was MONARCHY and CLERGY. How TTT!
vibrant stage
  12/03/18
952 and 1144 were just as crazy interesting as today.
Irradiated Stock Car
  12/03/18
(Guy really interested in subsistence living)
vibrant stage
  12/03/18
What books
Odious out-of-control knife
  12/03/18
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691173141/
vibrant stage
  12/03/18
This is your brain on xkcd
Galvanic Parlour Pervert
  12/03/18
lol @ :D always citing Richard Carrier for all ancient histo...
translucent comical goyim
  12/03/18
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691173141/ https://en.wi...
vibrant stage
  12/03/18
Q predicted this
Jade stirring crackhouse regret
  12/03/18


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Date: September 20th, 2018 1:52 AM
Author: vibrant stage

how do you not see everything became horrible because of Catholicism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846683)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 3:28 AM
Author: vibrant stage



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846879)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 3:32 AM
Author: titillating indian lodge therapy

religion is the devil.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846880)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 4:49 AM
Author: Mint hunting ground macaca

Can't tell if sarcasm?

It was only the "dark ages" in a relatively small part of the world - western europe. The Eastern Roman empire did very well although it had its ups and downs - was still vibrant and making progress, as did other parts of the world with very religious people.

You could just as well say - Diocletian divide ~276 --> Constantine reorganizes empire and moves East to the more economically productive / wealthy parts + legalizes Christianity 325 --> Christianity becomes Official State religion under Theodosius around 390-ish I think -->

After Christianity is legalized then becomes official state religion, several generations later Eastern Roman Empire (which they just considered the roman empire) reaches its peak under XO Justinian in 560s

Your thesis makes no sense considering the roman empire - particularly in the west - was *already* in deep trouble by mid 3rd century

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846926)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 5:45 AM
Author: olive gay wizard



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846951)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 6:06 AM
Author: Razzle-dazzle tantric forum dog poop

op is mfe, bro

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846964)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 5:58 AM
Author: Laughsome business firm stain

(gore vi:Dal)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846960)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 6:04 AM
Author: Mischievous rehab

“Dark Ages” is a myth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846962)



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Date: September 20th, 2018 6:07 AM
Author: 180 brilliant death wish

Libs invented the dark ages to discredit white people. If you want to see real dark ages look at the entire history of subsaharan africa

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#36846968)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:09 PM
Author: Odious out-of-control knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37339996)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:03 PM
Author: smoky plaza trump supporter

Settle down, Gibbon

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37339925)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:09 PM
Author: Odious out-of-control knife



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37339991)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: low-t ivory skinny woman step-uncle's house



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343030)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: yellow office

so is it possible we could have had the internet 200 years earlier and could have now had flying cars and sex bots that are indistinguishable from humans?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340148)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:35 PM
Author: curious space juggernaut

Pretty sure Rome had that stuff.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340150)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:38 PM
Author: yellow office

ho lee shit

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340164)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:37 PM
Author: Odious out-of-control knife

What happened in 1800

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340158)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 10:38 PM
Author: vibrant stage

discovery of fossil fuels. living standards actually peaked in 4th century BC athens.

https://www.richardcarrier.info/archives/14660

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340163)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: Odious out-of-control knife

flame on the athens thing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341698)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: vibrant stage

32% urbanization rate!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342665)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:57 AM
Author: disturbing newt jewess

The chart on HDI for the Greek East is total fucking flame. LJL at 900 AD being worse than the Bronze Age Collapse. That was an actual Dark Age where Greeks had to RE-INVENT writing because they forgot how to do it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341707)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 10:00 AM
Author: Odious out-of-control knife

social science shitheaddery like this is also behind the idea that pre-british colonization india had some AMAZING standard of living. just lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341718)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:01 PM
Author: vibrant stage

(guy totally impartial about who was in charge in 900 AD)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342257)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:56 PM
Author: smoky plaza trump supporter

Romans were in charge in 900 AD, and the Eastern Empire was coming on a fucking REVENGE TOUR in the 9th and 10th century hth faggot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342670)



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Date: December 2nd, 2018 11:11 PM
Author: beady-eyed rambunctious rigpig windowlicker

German scholars began questioning the historicity of Jesus

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37340449)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:53 AM
Author: disturbing newt jewess

Dark Ages are real but blaming them on Christianity is low IQ. Demographic collapse, long-term economic stagnation, de-urbanization, and political fragmentation that took centuries to reverse were all critical and not particularly linked to Christianity.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341694)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:54 AM
Author: Odious out-of-control knife

whys it gotta be the DARK ages hmmmmmmmm?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341699)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:59 PM
Author: Irradiated Stock Car

Because of the lack of written record. There were meticulously prepared histories of Greece and Rome that survived but they didn’t do that across Europe and had a tendency to burn the others “Chronicles” when new power came along.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343039)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:05 PM
Author: vibrant stage

But literature is a good proxy for decadence. Someone that has time to write histories isn't living at subsistence at risk of starvation.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343078)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 10:07 AM
Author: smoky plaza trump supporter

In fact Christianity gave them a unified ideology & a society to recover from said devastation - only remaining functioning govt and SCHOLARSHIP were the Church apparatus for a while in the West and in the East Xtian fanticism saved them vs the Sassanids (Heraclius is the FIRST Crusader)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341734)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:02 PM
Author: vibrant stage

...so why did it take 2 millenia to recover instead of a couple centuries?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342265)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:03 PM
Author: smoky plaza trump supporter

? Absolute flame

Romans didn't even have fucking stirrups for that CAVALRY, Germans developed better democratic governance & Europe didnt' employ slaves,

France had much much better agricultural output than the Roman times



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342277)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:22 PM
Author: vibrant stage

Lack of slaves mean subsisTTTence living.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342436)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:03 PM
Author: disturbing newt jewess

It didn't; the idea that life was worse in 1700 compared to 0 AD is fucking flame, or if it is true, fails to account for a dramatic explosion in population.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343065)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:10 PM
Author: vibrant stage

LOL @ claiming a higher population living at subsistence is a brag

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343098)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: Umber keepsake machete principal's office

Not to mention one could just as easily blame them on Islam. After muslims conquered the middle east europe lost its main supplies of gold and papyrus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342468)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:31 PM
Author: disturbing newt jewess

Shit was falling apart well before Islam so while that didn’t help it’s not really the cause.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342476)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:38 PM
Author: Umber keepsake machete principal's office

It was a primary factor in 1. demonetization of European economies, and 2. lack of writing/scholarship for about 700 years. The only thing they could make books out of was parchment, which was extremely expensive and time consuming to produce.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342897)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:41 PM
Author: disturbing newt jewess

Like I said, it didn't help, but the old Roman Empire was far worse off in 630 than it was in in 330, which in turn was much worse off than it was in 30.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342908)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:49 PM
Author: vibrant stage

In 380, under Emperor Theodosius I, Catholicism became the state religion of the Roman Empire

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342963)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:51 PM
Author: smoky plaza trump supporter

It was already TTT by the time Xtianity came forward - read up on the Crisis of the 3rd Century.

Constantine saved teh Empire hth

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342981)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:55 PM
Author: adventurous zombie-like parlor

Aurelian master race

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343010)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:00 PM
Author: smoky plaza trump supporter

He was 180, but was ulitmately only a fireman b/c of his early death

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343045)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 10:20 AM
Author: flushed university

can't argue with thescience

https://i.stack.imgur.com/XE9el.jpg

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37341777)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: Swashbuckling Ruddy Chapel Philosopher-king

Reddit is lols

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342638)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 12:53 PM
Author: smoky plaza trump supporter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342643)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:51 PM
Author: Hairraiser chartreuse box office potus

But I thought muslims were making yuge scientific advances during that time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342982)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:07 PM
Author: Razzle Police Squad

lmfao

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343091)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:21 PM
Author: Galvanic Parlour Pervert



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345636)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:53 PM
Author: Irradiated Stock Car

You need to read more books :D, I am diving into this time period and it’s incredible how alive the world was. Religion overall probably made it worse, but some amazing things happened over those 1600 years.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37342993)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:57 PM
Author: vibrant stage

LOL there was MONARCHY and CLERGY. How TTT!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343022)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: Irradiated Stock Car

952 and 1144 were just as crazy interesting as today.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343029)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: vibrant stage

(Guy really interested in subsistence living)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343197)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:32 PM
Author: Odious out-of-control knife

What books

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345681)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:34 PM
Author: vibrant stage

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691173141/

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345690)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 2:28 PM
Author: Galvanic Parlour Pervert

This is your brain on xkcd

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37343200)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:12 PM
Author: translucent comical goyim

lol @ :D always citing Richard Carrier for all ancient history facts.

Seems like :D discovers a website devoted to a weird slant of a popular topic and then just gives himself entirely to it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345588)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:14 PM
Author: vibrant stage

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/0691173141/

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Josiah_Ober

This guy is a SCHOLAR.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345608)



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Date: December 3rd, 2018 9:13 PM
Author: Jade stirring crackhouse regret

Q predicted this

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082027&forum_id=2#37345600)