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This is how awesome life could be in an all white America (vid)

No fights, no disputes. No having to deal with muds and thei...
slippery kitchen faggot firefighter
  09/20/18
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slippery kitchen faggot firefighter
  09/21/18
Lol holy fuck
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Exciting home
  09/21/18
Kara Box fought back tears Thursday as she recalled the morn...
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  09/21/18
Cr like "adopted daughter" in Tennenbaums
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  09/21/18
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  09/22/18
We want to know
Claret Submissive Whorehouse
  09/21/18
its was reported she was his fiance but she refers to him as...
low-t twinkling legal warrant
  09/21/18
Both charged with murder 1. https://cbs12.com/news/nation-wo...
maroon vengeful hairy legs
  09/21/18
After all that this for sure isnt murder 1
big violent step-uncle's house puppy
  09/21/18
Yeah probably will be pleaded down to voluntary manslaughter...
maroon vengeful hairy legs
  09/21/18
They should walk free IMHO. Self defense.
kink-friendly thriller toilet seat
  09/21/18
They should have walked away and called the cops
scarlet exhilarant lay
  09/21/18
interesting post-moniker synergy
Splenetic Cream Property Mediation
  09/21/18
guns are a necessary last resort. These men were not in a p...
scarlet exhilarant lay
  09/21/18
I’m kidding, I agree with you the amount of bloodthirsty ...
Splenetic Cream Property Mediation
  09/21/18
this country used to be littered with bodies of men who got ...
big violent step-uncle's house puppy
  09/21/18
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Appetizing shrine
  09/21/18
the fuck was that guy's deal
Appetizing shrine
  09/21/18
I'm assuming the MAF redneck was going to take the twin matt...
kink-friendly thriller toilet seat
  09/21/18
yeah but why was the MAF redneck so angry
Appetizing shrine
  09/21/18
Alcohol/Poison was a factor
kink-friendly thriller toilet seat
  09/21/18
too many people think that a gun allows them to do anything ...
dark stead
  09/21/18
This seems cr but apparently in 95% of physical confrontatio...
Claret Submissive Whorehouse
  09/21/18
that might be true and I hope it is... you just see vids lik...
dark stead
  09/21/18
this is almost always maf middle-aged white guys.
slippery kitchen faggot firefighter
  09/21/18
Yes, it's "almost always maf middle-aged white guys&quo...
cracking high-end tank
  09/21/18
Yep.
Exciting home
  09/21/18
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Splenetic Cream Property Mediation
  09/21/18
I agree. They should have walked away. If psycho gave chas...
scarlet exhilarant lay
  09/21/18
(Not a Texan)
Walnut Meetinghouse Psychic
  09/22/18
how was that not self defense in a SYG state? they kept say...
hairraiser house-broken gay wizard
  09/21/18
It's just now going to trial I think
Appetizing shrine
  09/21/18
What were they supposed to do? Run? Seems retarded.
Exciting home
  09/21/18
why are they fighting over trash
Carnelian Bat-shit-crazy Space
  09/21/18
goys
slippery kitchen faggot firefighter
  09/21/18
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Crimson Rambunctious Main People Forum
  09/22/18
alpha domination ritual. we wouldn't understand
lascivious black woman
  09/21/18
The guy who got shot almost seemed to be committing suicide....
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  09/21/18
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  09/21/18
then he fired passed my head," Box said. lol texas j...
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  09/21/18
Afterward, the speeding ambulance past several cars enroute ...
kink-friendly thriller toilet seat
  09/21/18
“Im standing my ground motherfucker” Uh actually
Exciting home
  09/21/18
I like how news calls it a murder instead of a killing.
kink-friendly thriller toilet seat
  09/21/18
Those hillbillies were calm as fuck and warned him several t...
Exciting home
  09/21/18
I agree. You gotta pick your battles, and this was a stupid...
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  09/21/18
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Walnut Meetinghouse Psychic
  09/22/18
apparently orange shirt dude has been in and out of jail con...
Gold Twisted Cruise Ship Filthpig
  09/22/18
Color me surprised
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  09/22/18
he came at him with a bat and threw it at him
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  09/21/18
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  09/21/18
Looks like an xo meetup in Florida
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  09/21/18
Make America Great Again
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  09/21/18
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Exciting home
  09/21/18
"I'll kill you!" gun owner: I doubt it.
hairraiser house-broken gay wizard
  09/21/18
One man's trash is another man's treasure. Sometimes it take...
Gold Twisted Cruise Ship Filthpig
  09/21/18
i guarantee you trumpmos think minorities are somehow to bla...
low-t twinkling legal warrant
  09/22/18
right, it's not libs who blame rural white people for tens o...
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  09/22/18
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Sooty zippy dopamine
  09/22/18
explain how minorities are not responsible for this lol
Gold Twisted Cruise Ship Filthpig
  09/22/18
yes because one-off events like these are clearly equivalent...
Avocado Cruel-hearted Old Irish Cottage Nowag
  09/22/18
https://www.decodedscience.org/white-white-crime-hidden-trut...
vibrant theater police squad
  09/22/18
You want to talk about crimes whites have committed? ht...
Sooty zippy dopamine
  09/24/18
Wtf I love open borders now
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  09/22/18
imagine if this had been minorities. somehow a few innocent ...
Wonderful azure range place of business
  09/22/18
nuts
low-t twinkling legal warrant
  09/22/18
180 we should place these gunbros in the south side of chica...
useless indian lodge
  09/22/18


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Date: September 20th, 2018 8:48 PM
Author: slippery kitchen faggot firefighter

No fights, no disputes. No having to deal with muds and their problems. Just a seamless life where shit just works:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SF2ROKpLYiY

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36851691)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:25 AM
Author: slippery kitchen faggot firefighter



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36854895)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:31 AM
Author: aphrodisiac learning disabled ladyboy market

Lol holy fuck

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36854938)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 2:32 AM
Author: blue floppy wagecucks fanboi



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855190)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 9:03 AM
Author: orange stain genital piercing



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855877)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 7:16 PM
Author: Exciting home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859721)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:33 AM
Author: aphrodisiac learning disabled ladyboy market

Kara Box fought back tears Thursday as she recalled the morning her common-law husband was shot to death in a dispute over a twin mattress in a dumpster.

What an odd thing to include “common law”

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36854950)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:34 AM
Author: seedy multi-colored university selfie

Cr like "adopted daughter" in Tennenbaums

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36854963)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 5:27 PM
Author: kink-friendly thriller toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36864742)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 2:24 AM
Author: Claret Submissive Whorehouse

We want to know

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855169)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 11:24 PM
Author: low-t twinkling legal warrant

its was reported she was his fiance but she refers to him as her husband in the video. that article was attempting to clarify the apparent discrepancy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36860969)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:35 AM
Author: maroon vengeful hairy legs

Both charged with murder 1. https://cbs12.com/news/nation-world/caught-on-camera-abilene-father-son-kill-neighbor-over-trash

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36854968)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:42 AM
Author: big violent step-uncle's house puppy

After all that this for sure isnt murder 1

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36854999)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 1:43 AM
Author: maroon vengeful hairy legs

Yeah probably will be pleaded down to voluntary manslaughter. Or they may just try their chances with a Texas jury.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855003)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 2:18 AM
Author: kink-friendly thriller toilet seat

They should walk free IMHO.

Self defense.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855158)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 7:48 PM
Author: scarlet exhilarant lay

They should have walked away and called the cops

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859845)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 7:49 PM
Author: Splenetic Cream Property Mediation

interesting post-moniker synergy

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859850)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 7:54 PM
Author: scarlet exhilarant lay

guns are a necessary last resort. These men were not in a position of no retreat against a man who did not have a firearm. They failed to choose to walk away from the conflict when they very likely could have. When you have a firearm, you have a duty to deescalate if you have the option.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859862)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 7:56 PM
Author: Splenetic Cream Property Mediation

I’m kidding, I agree with you

the amount of bloodthirsty xo posters who disagree with us is very disturbing

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859869)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 11:33 PM
Author: big violent step-uncle's house puppy

this country used to be littered with bodies of men who got shot for less. Out west they threw them in a ditch after pulling their gold teeth out.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36861037)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 2:21 AM
Author: Appetizing shrine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855160)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 2:23 AM
Author: Appetizing shrine

the fuck was that guy's deal

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855165)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 2:26 AM
Author: kink-friendly thriller toilet seat

I'm assuming the MAF redneck was going to take the twin mattress from the dumpster, and the fat redneck with a handgun told him that mattress is going to the dump. This enraged the huge screaming huge red neck.

If a guy holding a gun says that if I go within 3 feet of him, he'll kill me. I'm going to turn around and walk the fuck away.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855171)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 2:28 AM
Author: Appetizing shrine

yeah but why was the MAF redneck so angry

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855175)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 2:44 AM
Author: kink-friendly thriller toilet seat

Alcohol/Poison was a factor

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855225)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 2:28 AM
Author: dark stead

too many people think that a gun allows them to do anything in any situation, invite confrontation and not deescalate. obviously the tall guy was mentally deranged or something and at fault for initiating conflict but the gun bros did nothing to help the situation because they felt all-powerful just for holding $800 worth of machinery

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855173)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 2:30 AM
Author: Claret Submissive Whorehouse

This seems cr but apparently in 95% of physical confrontations where a gun is revealed the fight de-escalates

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855181)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 2:32 AM
Author: dark stead

that might be true and I hope it is... you just see vids like this one and the one with the guy arguing aggressively with strangers in a parking lot and then shooting a guy for pushing him and you can see it's a certain type of gun-bro inviting these altercations

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855186)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 2:46 AM
Author: slippery kitchen faggot firefighter

this is almost always maf middle-aged white guys.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855228)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 5:46 PM
Author: cracking high-end tank

Yes, it's "almost always maf middle-aged white guys" that escalate trivial disputes into fatal shootings.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859202)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 5:49 PM
Author: Exciting home

Yep.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859213)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 7:52 PM
Author: Splenetic Cream Property Mediation



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859857)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 7:50 PM
Author: scarlet exhilarant lay

I agree. They should have walked away. If psycho gave chase that is another story.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859854)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 10:47 AM
Author: Walnut Meetinghouse Psychic

(Not a Texan)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36862573)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 2:29 AM
Author: hairraiser house-broken gay wizard

how was that not self defense in a SYG state? they kept saying back off and remained calm. the guy who got got was acting psychotic

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855179)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 2:30 AM
Author: Appetizing shrine

It's just now going to trial I think

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855184)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 11:29 PM
Author: Exciting home

What were they supposed to do? Run? Seems retarded.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36861012)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 2:37 AM
Author: Carnelian Bat-shit-crazy Space

why are they fighting over trash

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855200)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:34 AM
Author: slippery kitchen faggot firefighter

goys

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855762)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 12:29 PM
Author: Crimson Rambunctious Main People Forum



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36862891)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 7:20 PM
Author: lascivious black woman

alpha domination ritual. we wouldn't understand

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859740)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:57 AM
Author: Insane Misanthropic School Foreskin

The guy who got shot almost seemed to be committing suicide. He was basically asking the other guys to shoot him.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36855859)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 10:44 AM
Author: kink-friendly thriller toilet seat



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36856480)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 10:56 AM
Author: magenta passionate locale

then he fired passed my head," Box said.

lol texas journalism

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36856545)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 5:38 PM
Author: kink-friendly thriller toilet seat

Afterward, the speeding ambulance past several cars enroute to the hospital.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859174)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 5:41 PM
Author: Exciting home

“Im standing my ground motherfucker”

Uh actually

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859181)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 7:15 PM
Author: kink-friendly thriller toilet seat

I like how news calls it a murder instead of a killing.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859717)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 7:17 PM
Author: Exciting home

Those hillbillies were calm as fuck and warned him several times. I’d never kill someone over a mattress, but this guy was begging for it

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859726)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 7:19 PM
Author: kink-friendly thriller toilet seat

I agree. You gotta pick your battles, and this was a stupid battle. That said if a huge unhinged guy kept threatening to kill me, and I was clearly, calmly, telling him to BTFO, and he approached me. Same results, I’m 100% sure.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859738)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 10:43 AM
Author: Walnut Meetinghouse Psychic



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36862566)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 10:48 AM
Author: Gold Twisted Cruise Ship Filthpig

apparently orange shirt dude has been in and out of jail constantly

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36862575)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 10:54 PM
Author: kink-friendly thriller toilet seat

Color me surprised

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36866619)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 11:18 PM
Author: hairraiser house-broken gay wizard

he came at him with a bat and threw it at him

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36860926)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 7:33 PM
Author: glittery up-to-no-good liquid oxygen

guy being experimented on by globochem fraud pharmaceutical companies gunned down by assholes

yeah two armed dorks were afraid for their lives from unarmed drugged up neighbor dood

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859791)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 11:28 PM
Author: low-t twinkling legal warrant



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36860998)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 7:56 PM
Author: sable bateful circlehead

Looks like an xo meetup in Florida

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859871)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 8:01 PM
Author: Wine Reading Party Office

Make America Great Again

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36859880)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: Exciting home



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36860912)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 11:19 PM
Author: hairraiser house-broken gay wizard

"I'll kill you!"

gun owner: I doubt it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36860932)



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Date: September 21st, 2018 11:21 PM
Author: Gold Twisted Cruise Ship Filthpig

One man's trash is another man's treasure. Sometimes it takes a few .45 rounds and buckshot to make that clear.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36860951)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 9:59 AM
Author: low-t twinkling legal warrant

i guarantee you trumpmos think minorities are somehow to blame for this. they'll find a way to trace it back to brown people somehow

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36862465)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 11:58 AM
Author: charcoal heaven twinkling uncleanness

right, it's not libs who blame rural white people for tens of thousands of inner city gun crimes involving no white people at all

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36862799)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 12:18 PM
Author: Sooty zippy dopamine



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36862856)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 9:20 PM
Author: Gold Twisted Cruise Ship Filthpig

explain how minorities are not responsible for this lol

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36866072)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 11:27 AM
Author: Avocado Cruel-hearted Old Irish Cottage Nowag

yes because one-off events like these are clearly equivalent to the daily nig on nig homicides in places like chicago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36862665)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 5:30 PM
Author: vibrant theater police squad

https://www.decodedscience.org/white-white-crime-hidden-truth/52297

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36864756)



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Date: September 24th, 2018 1:58 PM
Author: Sooty zippy dopamine

You want to talk about crimes whites have committed?

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Casualties_of_the_Iraq_War#Iraqi_civilian_casualties

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernard_Madoff

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36878116)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 11:55 AM
Author: Stimulating Tan Headpube Nursing Home

Wtf I love open borders now

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36862784)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 12:23 PM
Author: Wonderful azure range place of business

imagine if this had been minorities. somehow a few innocent bystanders would've been shot and there wouldve been more loud music and yelling during the altercation

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36862871)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 5:37 PM
Author: low-t twinkling legal warrant

nuts

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36864796)



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Date: September 22nd, 2018 11:06 PM
Author: useless indian lodge

180 we should place these gunbros in the south side of chicago

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4082590&forum_id=2#36866683)