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Can any BMW owners opine as to the cost of ownership?
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Date: September 25th, 2018 12:41 PM Author: Chestnut brunch Trying to help a friend buy a car. He's looking at used Lexus and BMW.
The car he wants is a 328 wagon. He'd likely get a 2015-2016 with roughly 30k miles.
Would he be crazy to do this? Are the repairs and maintenance costs really that crazy? Also a factor is that he has an extremely short commute and only drives around 10k miles/year. |
Date: September 25th, 2018 12:54 PM Author: Chestnut brunch plz help (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885034) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 12:56 PM Author: Impertinent hissy fit I have a Mercedes and maintenance and repairs are a bitch. The key is to buy a low mileage one (30,000 might be pushing it), and make sure he cuts bait before the big problems start. Of course, that’s difficult to know when (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885067) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:06 PM Author: Chestnut brunch which model? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885140) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:43 PM Author: Impertinent hissy fit S550 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885431) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:54 PM Author: Chestnut brunch 180. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885521) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 9:13 PM Author: Bossy Arrogant Prole Bawdyhouse wo (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36888907) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 9:36 PM Author: Impertinent hissy fit It’s 180. Really classic look inside and out (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36889102) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 9:40 PM Author: Rusted aggressive school coffee pot cr S550 is a gorgeous car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36889122) |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 1:24 PM Author: Chestnut brunch yeah a boomer friend had a mid-00s s-class. hands down the most luxurious car ive ever been in. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36902319) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 12:57 PM Author: curious flatulent generalized bond university 328i is a HUGE prole tell. it's for people who cannot afford a BMW to drive a watered down version. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885073) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 12:58 PM Author: curious flatulent generalized bond university my know beczuse my dad owns a 328 (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885078) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 12:59 PM Author: misunderstood hell Ken Wins in Breaking Bad drives a 318, it was such a nice detail touch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885086) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 5:27 PM Author: adventurous immigrant shrine yeah i liked that too. also it wasn't a new 318, definitely a used model. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36887330) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:04 PM Author: Chestnut brunch It depends what you are looking for. I test drove one with him and have to say it was noticeably nicer than a lexus IS or ES, and I am a big lexus fan.
I probably wouldn't get a 328 because I care mostly about performance but I do see the appeal. |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:11 PM Author: magical ruddy kitty cat lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885175) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:01 PM Author: cerise dragon step-uncle's house If he does CPO then all maintenance will be free for a while. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885101) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:02 PM Author: exhilarant overrated partner it's basically the same as any other car (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885108) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:03 PM Author: Chartreuse Titillating Native Affirmative Action Its variable. But out of warranty my experience with a 335i and M3 was that I spent $1000-$3000 a year on unscheduled problems. Not including wear parts like brakes, tires, etc.
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:05 PM Author: Chestnut brunch how many miles did you keep them for? was there a threshhold where shit just constantly kept breaking? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885136) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:52 PM Author: Chartreuse Titillating Native Affirmative Action Got rid of them both around 100k. Not really a threshold, but every year there was something... (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885504) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 10:28 PM Author: big property gunner jfc that is ridiculous (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36889416) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 10:33 PM Author: magical ruddy kitty cat lodge Idk, $1-3k/year for an old luxury car out of warranty doesn't seem that crazy. I'd be more worried about $5-10k expenses (dead tranny, engine falls apart, differential blows, etc.). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36889466) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:04 PM Author: soul-stirring people who are hurt masturbator ask Earl about his BMW blowing up (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885124) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:08 PM Author: Chestnut brunch wtf i thought he had a m240i? it broke? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885158) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:12 PM Author: magical ruddy kitty cat lodge A tire blew out iirc. It is nbd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885180) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:44 PM Author: soul-stirring people who are hurt masturbator blew a head gasket (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885436) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:51 PM Author: trip glassy corner holy shit when a tire blows the head gasket goes? not an automotive engineer but that's a design flaw IME (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885490) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:53 PM Author: hyperventilating wine laser beams earl or the car? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885512) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 2:24 PM Author: Chestnut brunch yessss! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885797) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 2:54 PM Author: exhilarant overrated partner O-ring, actually (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886078) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:15 PM Author: multi-colored mediation buy it from carmax and cop their warranty plan. you can take it to any shop you want and carmax will pay for it. it's not cheap, but it's almost certainly cheaper than paying for it yourself unless you get a unicorn. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885202) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:15 PM Author: magical ruddy kitty cat lodge If you think about it, you'll see why this can't really be true across the board. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885211) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:53 PM Author: hyperventilating wine laser beams (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885517) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 2:52 PM Author: silver forum azn This is objectively false unless you think warranty companies are in the business of losing money (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886060) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:55 PM Author: multi-colored mediation I really think the luxury car warranties are subsidized by all the warranties sold on Toyotas and the like. I got a 35k mile warranty on a Benz for around 3k with a $100 deductible. Pretty sure it’ll pay for itself the first time the sunroof or auto-adjusting side view mirror breaks.
Obviously no straight up insurance company is going to intentionally lose money, but given the rates Carmax charges something is up. See the Range Rover article. |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 5:31 PM Author: magical ruddy kitty cat lodge That is true on manufacturer warranties. For example, my Jeep has a lifetime warranty with a $100 deductible that cost me under $3k. I've probably exceeded the cost already and only have like 111k miles on it and plan on keeping it for many more years as a second car. Yeah, they're subsidizing it. And it makes sense because that warranty was a primary reason I bought a Jeep.
But I don't think Carmax has any relation to any manufacturer. |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 5:29 PM Author: magical ruddy kitty cat lodge tcr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36887365) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:25 PM Author: Chartreuse Titillating Native Affirmative Action They raised the price on your RR warranty, Doug! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886317) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:49 PM Author: Sick vivacious patrolman foreskin Lease. Buying is for wagecuck proles (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885475) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 2:05 PM Author: magical ruddy kitty cat lodge Lol (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885613) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 1:50 PM Author: beady-eyed maize idiot state I have one. Same as any other car. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36885488) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:00 PM Author: fragrant house my parents bought a 4y/o 5 Series for 32k, and over the next 10ish years spent over 10k on repairs and maintenance. total sham. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886119) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:03 PM Author: Chestnut brunch ty. yeah i think he's gonna buy a lexus es. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886143) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:19 PM Author: exhilarant overrated partner that's good. they're made by japs so he'll never have to fix anything ever. BMW he'll be in the shop every week with another $2000 repair. I know a guy whose 328's wheels fell off and the car started on fire for no reason like the car in Road Trip. He didn't even jump it over a bridge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886261) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:24 PM Author: Chestnut brunch that sounds awful. guess he should go with the lex. thanks, brother. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886305) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:35 PM Author: exhilarant overrated partner oh look he's being glib again (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886397) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:41 PM Author: Chestnut brunch you were being glib first! (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886445) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:09 PM Author: buff hyperactive cuckoldry id say the BMW tax is about 1000+ a year after warranty
if you cant afford it, dont get it
if you can afford it, it's much more fun to drive than the lexus |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:15 PM Author: exhilarant overrated partner lol you faggots rush in here with this exact same shit every time there's. no, it doesn't cost any more to maintain a fucking 3 series than it does any other shitty car. it's definitely not a "$1000+ tax" (so really like $1500). there's not even enough $1500 shit on a 3 series to fix every year if you wanted to. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886221) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:20 PM Author: cerise dragon step-uncle's house Maintenance on a BMW 3 series is more expensive than on a Toyota Camry. This is indisputable. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886270) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:26 PM Author: exhilarant overrated partner nah it's pretty much the same. having a no bullshit mechanic and not taking it to some ripoff joint for a "tune up" every year matters more than anything. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886325) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:26 PM Author: cerise dragon step-uncle's house it's definitely not (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886329) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:32 PM Author: exhilarant overrated partner i duno man. I've driven BMWs for over for like 15 years and they've been fine. parts don't cost more than any other car, tranny, suspension, etc is still fine. fucking transfer case for the AWD was really the only big thing I've ever fixed. Honda civic was probably the biggest pain in the ass out of anything though it did have a ton of miles but ppl always rant about how you can drive those things to 200K like nbd. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886376) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:48 PM Author: Heady plaza I agree that the downside of maintenance costs for BMWs is overstated, but you are painting a bit too rosey of a picture. Yes, BMW parts are somewhat more expensive than parts from many other manufacturers and yes, both BMW dealerships and independent repair shops that are familiar with BMWs charge a somewhat higher labor nrate than many other dealerships and shops. With that said, the difference in cost is not huge. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886499) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 10:35 PM Author: big property gunner There is an astounding amount of aggregate data that says you are 100% wrong. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36889476) |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 1:40 PM Author: exhilarant overrated partner bmw owners are morons who take the car to dealer to get serviced. that and regular mechanics will think you either have or are stupid with money so they'll try to rip you off as well. that's the real difference. you don't have major shit breaking before 100K miles any more. mechanics know that toyota owners are broke and/or frugal so they just do the work. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36902447) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:25 PM Author: cerise dragon step-uncle's house Once the warranty on my bimmer runs out I'm getting a Toyota Tacoma and never looking back (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886313) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:32 PM Author: Heady plaza I have owned a CPO 550i for 2 years. So far, it has required no maintenance beyond regular services.
When buying a BMW, it is EXTREMELY important to research the various drivetrain packages you are considering and confirm there are no known widespread issues. As a corollary to this, I would never buy a BMW with a newly designed engine within the first two years of its introduction.
If you are wondering about the basis for my warnings, I am specifically thinking about the new turbo I-6 in tje 335i (just ask Nutella) and the turbo V-8 in the 550i (this engine was especially bad), both of which were new designs that were introduced 4 or 5 years ago. The follow-up redesign of these engines have been relatively reliable.
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:42 PM Author: Chestnut brunch most helpful post so far. ty. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886451) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 3:57 PM Author: Chartreuse Titillating Native Affirmative Action N54 (2008) had problems, N55 (2012? 2013?) was good (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886563) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 4:04 PM Author: Heady plaza I wasn't certain on the timeframe. I figured anyone with enough interest would be able to figure it out. But like I said, the issues with turbo V-8 are much worse than the I6. Truly terrifying. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886616) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 5:25 PM Author: magical ruddy kitty cat lodge If you got the 50i 2 years ago it should have the new redesign, no? I'm looking at a 2017-2018 model with this engine. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36887310) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 4:34 PM Author: cerebral space I drove a SWeet E30 325is in high school, college and a few years after. Loved that car but damn if every year I didn't have to spend a good chunk of what I had made that summer in repairs just to have it pass inspection. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36886871) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 4:47 PM Author: Galvanic gaming laptop giraffe If you're buying anything that's current generation, it shouldn't be much worse than anything else.
Almost all car makes are extremely reliable now. At least until the electronics fail. |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 4:51 PM Author: Chestnut brunch is this true? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36887004) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 5:27 PM Author: magical ruddy kitty cat lodge Absolutely not, just as it has never been true. If you think a new Land Rover or Fiat is the same as a new Toyota/Lexus then you're kidding yourself. And I say this as a Jeep owner of a wk2 that has had its share of issues (but not as bad as some stories I've heard). (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36887329) |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 9:34 PM Author: Galvanic gaming laptop giraffe The spread in reliability has closed substantially. Alfas, Fiats, and Land Rovers are still the bottom of the pack, but in general you're much less likely to have problems with new cars today than 10 years ago. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36909024) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 4:51 PM Author: Chestnut brunch I showed this thread to my friend. here is his response:
"What is this message board? I hate it in there." |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 5:25 PM Author: magical ruddy kitty cat lodge wtfffff (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36887311) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 5:26 PM Author: Chestnut brunch cr (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36887319) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 5:31 PM Author: Insanely creepy stag film (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36887371) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 5:32 PM Author: magical ruddy kitty cat lodge (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36887381) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 9:11 PM Author: pearly reading party locale EVERYONE knows german cars are MONEY PITS.
me? i drive a FORD MUSTANG that rides perfectly even after 100k miles.
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Date: September 25th, 2018 9:25 PM Author: magical ruddy kitty cat lodge You have no money and earn a jack shit. I can afford a nice BMW and afford the maintenance. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36889001) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 9:33 PM Author: pearly reading party locale (guy literally posting in a thread in which EVERYONE agrees with NYUUG in acknowledging the FRAUDLIES maintenance of german STRIVERMOBILES whilst TMF is in a FIGHT FOR HIS LIFE to assert his "car superiority" despite getting jewed by german automakers laughing their way to the bank like the good little - literally, i mean: 5'8 - shekel-giver he is) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36889076) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 10:21 PM Author: magical ruddy kitty cat lodge "guy literally posting in a thread in which EVERYONE agrees with NYUUG"
No one thinks your car is the better option.
You keep mentioning height. How tall are you? |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 10:24 PM Author: pearly reading party locale bro i just posted SWEET new picture of my SWEET MUSTANG SUPERCAR after i detailed it during my chuseok break
and it looks FRESH. i cant even imagine how lame your BEEMER STRIVERMOBILE would look next to my PURE AMERICAN MUSCLE
ask the many regs who have met me how tall i am since you dont seem to believe anything i tell you anyways |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 10:28 PM Author: magical ruddy kitty cat lodge I don't know about your weird XO get-togethers in a weird dog eating country full of weirdos. Hey, guys who he is talking about - how tall is he? I seem to recall that blondielaw TOWERED over you. She was 5'8"-5'10", iirc.
Anyway, you drive a shit car that is old and has a bunch of miles. Watching you be impressed with yourself over it is hilarious. |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 10:29 PM Author: pearly reading party locale lol tmf nevar EVAR change (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36889426) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 9:29 PM Author: insane place of business stage i think the extended maintenance is not worth it. they will charge you a couple grand for "free maintenance" but you change oil, brakes, etc so rarely that even if it's 300-500 per it will be at least 3-4 years before it makes up for the prepaid plan
extended warranty on the other hand...like someone said above, i have had ~3k worth of repairs every year that were covered by the warranty including bad subwoofer, bad headset, bad valvetronic motor, crack/leak at the oil filter, car going into limp mode b/c of an issue with an engine cooling fan. i paid 3k for the extended warranty and it's saved me 6k easy.
of course some people never have anything go wrong with theirs, but i'd be willing to pay the 3-4k for peace of mind
and he should at least get a straight 6. whats the fun of the " ultimate driving machine" if you got a honda motor in it. |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 9:39 PM Author: sooty electric organic girlfriend dopamine This thread is like the pied piper for balding of counsel strivers from Dentons or DLA Piper or midlaw. Go ahead and stretch to get that Beamer, you can keep wagecucking till 70. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36889115) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 9:43 PM Author: pearly reading party locale extremely lulzy post (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36889139) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 10:31 PM Author: sooty electric organic girlfriend dopamine High praise from a poor "supa car" owner. Fuck off, jerk off. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36889444) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 10:38 PM Author: pearly reading party locale bro were on the same side here. dont get mad that i got a GREAT DEAL on AMERICAN MUSCLE SUPERCAR and brag about it here (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36889515) |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 11:13 AM Author: magical ruddy kitty cat lodge lolz (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36900969) |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 10:43 AM Author: cerise dragon step-uncle's house *Bimmer (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36900443) |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 11:10 AM Author: Sick vivacious patrolman foreskin (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36900921) |
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Date: September 25th, 2018 9:43 PM Author: marvelous ultramarine party of the first part I've had a 328d for 3 years, and it's been problem free, just do the routine maintenance. It's been under $1k per year on average (even including the value of the free maintenance) (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36889137) |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 10:58 AM Author: Self-absorbed nursing home I'm in a similar situation - got a great deal on a used one and I don't drive very much.
I'm gonna probably trade it for a truck or something because my needs are changing in the future.
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Date: September 27th, 2018 1:22 PM Author: Chestnut brunch lawyer turned construction worker? or is wife preggers? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36902306) |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 9:18 PM Author: Red jet-lagged trump supporter he's clearly getting ready for the road wars; can't mount a machine gun on a sports car. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36908836) |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 1:34 PM Author: Supple Tattoo Have 2012 335i convertible. Bought it used 3 years ago. Service costs are about the same as Lexus, i.e., overpriced (wife has one). Only problem I've had is oil leaks - took three trips to get that fixed. Warranty coverage, but would have been about $1700 otherwise. Has low miles, as I only use it at the winter place. Fun car, no plans to get rid of it. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36902392) |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 8:20 PM Author: Chestnut brunch Post script: this evening my friend bought a black on black 2015 lexus ES with 10k miles for something like $28k. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36908266) |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 8:23 PM Author: Awkward doctorate Only by BMW new. Yw (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36908286) |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 8:24 PM Author: Sick vivacious patrolman foreskin Or lease (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36908300) |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 9:13 PM Author: Chestnut brunch that's my impression. people with money either lease or buy new BMWs which are then dumped on people with less money who think they are getting a great deal on a luxury car but are just buying a headache. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36908792) |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 9:17 PM Author: Hairraiser Point universal derision by people with taste ? (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36908831) |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 9:18 PM Author: Chestnut brunch really? i think they are handsome and athletic looking cars. (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36908840) |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 9:25 PM Author: Hairraiser Point underwhelming
but don't listen to me, I'm prob wrong |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 9:19 PM Author: henna orchestra pit rigor I’ve owned 2 3-series and they absolutely fall apart after 100k. A good friend of mine had his 5 series basically blow up at 150k. We both own nice silverados now and very pleased (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36908851) |
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Date: September 27th, 2018 9:49 PM Author: Chestnut brunch (http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4087127&forum_id=2#36909196) |
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