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How the hell is Harvard UG 15.8% black?

they must be pulling off some absolutely insane affirmative ...
cracking cheese-eating friendly grandma useless brakes
  10/18/18
Correct, see the trial exhibit linked below. 94% of blacks a...
concupiscible orchid electric furnace
  10/18/18
Very racist thread
cerebral yellow famous landscape painting trump supporter
  10/18/18
Someone tweeted a stat yesterday that showed that if H admit...
Chest-beating Menage
  10/18/18
https://twitter.com/pnin1957/status/1051799180069531648/phot...
Abusive affirmative action
  10/18/18
lol yes ty sad (and sick!)
Chest-beating Menage
  10/18/18
Incredible
concupiscible orchid electric furnace
  10/18/18
i mean, how much do the AA black admits interact with the no...
cracking cheese-eating friendly grandma useless brakes
  10/18/18
I want to an UG a tier below HYPS and it was incredibly self...
Chest-beating Menage
  10/18/18
they're actually over represented even in proportion to gen ...
sapphire know-it-all hall jew
  10/18/18
yeah but minorities are younger than the overall population ...
Thriller Candlestick Maker Institution
  10/18/18
this is only true for immigrant groups. blacks have about th...
Gay fat ankles
  10/18/18
...
sapphire know-it-all hall jew
  10/18/18
It's kind of a funny story
Lascivious balding lodge tank
  10/18/18
Half are well educated rich Nigerians getting AA
Brilliant lettuce nursing home
  10/18/18
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Mentally Impaired Buff Cuckoldry
  10/18/18
.09% black people listing selves as black on admissions pape...
talented skinny woman
  10/18/18
Because blacks are smarter than the general population, obvi...
haunting internet-worthy patrolman
  10/18/18
Someone on here made the point recently that there are enoug...
maroon field sneaky criminal
  10/18/18
There’s obviously going to be a waterfall effect but t...
bipolar meetinghouse
  10/18/18
the cascade effect is devastating actually. Law school is a...
Swashbuckling shimmering site
  10/18/18
As someone who attended CCN this is very true. Some blacks w...
bipolar meetinghouse
  10/18/18
can confirm. professors stopped calling on one of them compl...
frum hyperactive kitchen roast beef
  10/18/18
Did she cop biglaw
maroon field sneaky criminal
  10/18/18
Yeah, lower V100 but biglaw. Was there for <2 years and ...
frum hyperactive kitchen roast beef
  10/18/18
...
sapphire know-it-all hall jew
  10/18/18
Except that point was backed by no evidence, and actual hard...
concupiscible orchid electric furnace
  10/18/18
qualified enough for most of them to finish the coursework. ...
Swashbuckling shimmering site
  10/18/18
Teachers are petrified of being accused of racism. And Harva...
concupiscible orchid electric furnace
  10/18/18
there is something to be said that if Harvard inflates its g...
Swashbuckling shimmering site
  10/18/18
Why isn't this true for Asians? I probably agree but I don't...
maroon field sneaky criminal
  10/18/18
Harvard does not care about blacks having top academics. Ho...
Swashbuckling shimmering site
  10/18/18
Ah I see. Not a lawyer so excuse me if this sounds retard...
maroon field sneaky criminal
  10/18/18
The lawyers at WLRK are Harvard alum Jews who benefited from...
overrated death wish step-uncle's house
  10/18/18
Yeah that may be true but thats besides my point. I'm asking...
maroon field sneaky criminal
  10/18/18
All depends on the judge. This case is before a black shi...
concupiscible orchid electric furnace
  10/18/18
It’s going up on appeal regardless. Maybe to scotus. ...
Aquamarine french pozpig
  10/18/18
Isn’t that worse since they have to be deferential to ...
concupiscible orchid electric furnace
  10/19/18
...
Gay fat ankles
  10/18/18
The non athlete blacks at HYP are comparable with the bottom...
diverse bawdyhouse
  10/18/18
Assuming GPA and SAT scores are good proxies for quality of ...
Irradiated Filthy Business Firm Reading Party
  10/18/18
There are plenty of 2250/3.7 white bros at cornell. How many...
maroon field sneaky criminal
  10/18/18
Blacks at HYP have 97th percentile SAT scores and rank in th...
flickering center psychic
  10/18/18
more like they 4.0'd their ghetto high school that sends the...
Vengeful Senate Newt
  10/18/18
This is laughably false
Brilliant lettuce nursing home
  10/19/18
ITT: what the third world looks sounds and feels like
Costumed curious dysfunction
  10/18/18
https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/so...
electric greedy abode
  10/18/18
(guy who only got into NYU)
gold water buffalo gas station
  10/18/18
look at the Phi Beta Kappa lists how often do you see NIGS
Vengeful Senate Newt
  10/18/18
harvard needs to stop all AA for blacks and hispanics, conti...
Supple Double Fault Crotch
  10/18/18


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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: cracking cheese-eating friendly grandma useless brakes

they must be pulling off some absolutely insane affirmative action and dipping way down into the barrel to hit those kinds of numbers.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051066)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 6:52 PM
Author: concupiscible orchid electric furnace

Correct, see the trial exhibit linked below. 94% of blacks at Harvard are unqualified and never would have gotten in if not for AA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052138)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:31 PM
Author: cerebral yellow famous landscape painting trump supporter

Very racist thread

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051071)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:33 PM
Author: Chest-beating Menage

Someone tweeted a stat yesterday that showed that if H admitted based on academic stats alone, whites would decrease only by ~8% (as in, compared to their previous total), azns would skyrocket obviously, and blacks would fall to <1% of the student population. I should've poasted it but I forgot

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051085)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Abusive affirmative action

https://twitter.com/pnin1957/status/1051799180069531648/photo/1

i got u fam

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051155)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: Chest-beating Menage

lol yes ty

sad (and sick!)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051165)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 6:53 PM
Author: concupiscible orchid electric furnace

Incredible

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052144)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:42 PM
Author: cracking cheese-eating friendly grandma useless brakes

i mean, how much do the AA black admits interact with the non-AA harvard population? there must be a 500+ point SAT differential between those groups.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051170)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:46 PM
Author: Chest-beating Menage

I want to an UG a tier below HYPS and it was incredibly self-segregated.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051205)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:39 PM
Author: sapphire know-it-all hall jew

they're actually over represented even in proportion to gen population

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051141)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:43 PM
Author: Thriller Candlestick Maker Institution

yeah but minorities are younger than the overall population so that might actually be in line with their share of the 18 year old population.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051179)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 6:14 PM
Author: Gay fat ankles

this is only true for immigrant groups. blacks have about the same pop growth as whites

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051911)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 6:55 PM
Author: sapphire know-it-all hall jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052158)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:40 PM
Author: Lascivious balding lodge tank

It's kind of a funny story

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051151)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 4:44 PM
Author: Brilliant lettuce nursing home

Half are well educated rich Nigerians getting AA

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051184)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 6:30 PM
Author: Mentally Impaired Buff Cuckoldry



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052013)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 6:26 PM
Author: talented skinny woman

.09% black people listing selves as black on admissions paperwork

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051982)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 6:27 PM
Author: haunting internet-worthy patrolman

Because blacks are smarter than the general population, obviously

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37051990)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 6:40 PM
Author: maroon field sneaky criminal

Someone on here made the point recently that there are enough smart nigs/spics for HYPS to admit without compromising too much, and that its the lower ivy/duke/chicago schools that end up admitting the truly dumb ones. They also want 30% URM but all the smart/competent ones go to hyp instead so they settle for whats left.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052064)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 6:43 PM
Author: bipolar meetinghouse

There’s obviously going to be a waterfall effect but this still seems dubious.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052079)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 6:48 PM
Author: Swashbuckling shimmering site

the cascade effect is devastating actually. Law school is a good example because schools really are ranked best to worst with some level of consistency.

Sure you might find enough black people with LSAT's over 167 to fill out 12% of a YLS class. But then what about the 50 black students who need to go to HLS? YLS has already taken all of the black students who would have gotten into the t-10 but for affirmative action.

By the time you get you NYU you have black students scoring 159-161 on the LSAT.

By the time you get to Fordham you are talking 149-152.

Tier two black students cant read. Tier two asian students scored 163 on the LSAT.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052109)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 6:54 PM
Author: bipolar meetinghouse

As someone who attended CCN this is very true. Some blacks were deserving of being there and some were knuckle draggers

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052150)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 7:04 PM
Author: frum hyperactive kitchen roast beef

can confirm. professors stopped calling on one of them completely - she was in completely over her head and it was uncomfortable for everyone.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052222)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 8:33 PM
Author: maroon field sneaky criminal

Did she cop biglaw

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052766)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 8:54 PM
Author: frum hyperactive kitchen roast beef

Yeah, lower V100 but biglaw. Was there for <2 years and has bounced around Legal Aid and state govt jobs since. Seems to speak on panels for minority legal issues.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052952)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 7:09 PM
Author: sapphire know-it-all hall jew



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052253)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 6:50 PM
Author: concupiscible orchid electric furnace

Except that point was backed by no evidence, and actual hard data (linked above, the trial exhibit) shows that 94% of black students at Harvard are unqualified and would never have gotten in if not for AA.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052126)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 6:57 PM
Author: Swashbuckling shimmering site

qualified enough for most of them to finish the coursework. Its the cascade effect of the lower schools that is devastating.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052173)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 7:03 PM
Author: concupiscible orchid electric furnace

Teachers are petrified of being accused of racism. And Harvard notoriously inflates their grades.

I don’t think “finishing the coursework” is a proxy for being qualified to get in, when it’s basically impossible for anyone to fail out so long as they turn in assignments on time.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052210)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 7:17 PM
Author: Swashbuckling shimmering site

there is something to be said that if Harvard inflates its grades and is easy (it is), then its just a status signal and should not matter who gets in.

That said the bullshit lies about asians do not pass the laugh test.

Harvard says academics are only one of many factors:

Either 1) this is true for blacks but not true for asians at all because academics are the only factor for asians.

or

2) this is true for blacks and asians, but blacks and asians are being judged in separate applicant pools which have vastly different academic credentials.

Either way it is obvious racial discrimination and its ridiculous that harvard keeps trying to deny it.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052307)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 7:19 PM
Author: maroon field sneaky criminal

Why isn't this true for Asians? I probably agree but I don't totally get what you mean.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052330)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 7:23 PM
Author: Swashbuckling shimmering site

Harvard does not care about blacks having top academics. However NO asian gets into Harvard without top academics.

a 1600 SAT is necessary but not sufficient for Harvard asians.

So this either means academics are very important and the primary factor for asians but not blacks.

Or that soft factors are important for all applicants, however Harvard only considers soft factors from the applicant pool of asians who have 1600 on the SAT.

Either academics matter more for asians, or asians are judged relative to other asians, not the entire applicant pool. Two ways of saying the same thing - Quota for asians.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052352)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 7:36 PM
Author: maroon field sneaky criminal

Ah I see.

Not a lawyer so excuse me if this sounds retarded, but what would happen if the Asian community really pushed this issue and somehow hired some WLRK-level firm to represent them. Would anything actually happen? I can't image Harvard losing or being forced to change its policies.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052422)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 8:14 PM
Author: overrated death wish step-uncle's house

The lawyers at WLRK are Harvard alum Jews who benefited from and actively support the current system.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052655)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 8:23 PM
Author: maroon field sneaky criminal

Yeah that may be true but thats besides my point. I'm asking if enough legal fire power could actually get H to change its policies, or if its 100% futile.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052696)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 8:43 PM
Author: concupiscible orchid electric furnace

All depends on the judge.

This case is before a black shitlib, and the plaintiffs stupidly asked for a bench trial. That means they will lose. If they drew a conservahero, they’d probably win.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052851)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 11:17 PM
Author: Aquamarine french pozpig

It’s going up on appeal regardless. Maybe to scotus.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053989)



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Date: October 19th, 2018 10:55 AM
Author: concupiscible orchid electric furnace

Isn’t that worse since they have to be deferential to fact findings made by the trier of fact, and the shitlib trial judge will make them as biased as possible?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37055645)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 8:56 PM
Author: Gay fat ankles



(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052964)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 9:00 PM
Author: diverse bawdyhouse

The non athlete blacks at HYP are comparable with the bottom half of the class at the lower ivies. It's below the top 15 where the dropoff gets steep. Cornell gets quite a few dumbs because of their weird trade schools.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052991)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 9:11 PM
Author: Irradiated Filthy Business Firm Reading Party

Assuming GPA and SAT scores are good proxies for quality of student, this simply is not true. We want to believe it is true for myriad reasons, but it's not.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053085)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 9:49 PM
Author: maroon field sneaky criminal

There are plenty of 2250/3.7 white bros at cornell. How many are there at Yale?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053324)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 10:11 PM
Author: flickering center psychic

Blacks at HYP have 97th percentile SAT scores and rank in the top quarter of their elite prep school classes. But 2100/3.8 would not cut it for a white.

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053493)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 10:20 PM
Author: Vengeful Senate Newt

more like they 4.0'd their ghetto high school that sends the median kid to Cal States or Taco Bell and got a 2080

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053565)



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Date: October 19th, 2018 10:19 AM
Author: Brilliant lettuce nursing home

This is laughably false

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37055483)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 9:00 PM
Author: Costumed curious dysfunction

ITT: what the third world looks sounds and feels like

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37052992)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 10:06 PM
Author: electric greedy abode

https://www.usnews.com/education/best-global-universities/south-korea

SNU numba one in South Korea, numba one twenty three globally

the "first world" can't even crack the top 100. ROR!

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053464)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 10:42 PM
Author: gold water buffalo gas station

(guy who only got into NYU)

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053794)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 9:37 PM
Author: Vengeful Senate Newt

look at the Phi Beta Kappa lists how often do you see NIGS

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053245)



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Date: October 18th, 2018 10:44 PM
Author: Supple Double Fault Crotch

harvard needs to stop all AA for blacks and hispanics, continue discriminating as is against asians, and give the empty seats to WHITES, god damnit. and by whites, i dont mean jews, as there are enough jews at harvard already.

why wont nobody adopt this REASONABLE approach?

(http://www.autoadmit.com/thread.php?thread_id=4109806&forum_id=2#37053802)